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Alvarella777
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posted July 09, 2009 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, I am wondering what LEO-people are going through, currently? Just over the last 4-10 weeks I came to know about several more or less serious CATASTROPHES occuring in the lifes of LEO-born people. Maybe this is just a coincidence … It doesn’t seem to be a “generational” factor, because all these Leos have been born some years apart from each other. What strikes me: I do know 5 LEO-people who have to accept some damage to their “regal ambition”, to their “royal approach” to life, some heavy defeit, these days. And I see all of them suffering badly – but no one seems to be able to help them. I feel great compassion for these people.

LEOS OUT THERE: Did you face any serious problems or major catastrophes in your lifes, lately? Maybe some bad things that came up unexpectedly?

I wonder whether this could be a side-effect from the Jupiter-Neptune-Chiron-conjunction currently transiting through their opposite sign, Aquarius?

I’ll sketch 3 of the current LEO-catastrophes I am talking about:

# 1, male LEO, Asc Scorpio, born 1977: serious financial problems, increasing during the last 3 months; threads to his job-position (might lose his job soon); authorities denied support so far; now also is about to lose his apartment, maybe – constant nagging by his neighbours that his computer worked too loud (!) at night time (it’s a regular, normal home computer!) – his landlord warned him to kick him out if he doesn’t switch off his computer after 10 pm! (He uses headphones for listening to music, etc…!); cannot afford a lawyer because he’s broke; was left by his girlfriend one year ago, had started a small affair a couple of weeks ago, but this woman seem to be very aggressive and they sort of split again. Really a case of “everything going wrong right now.”
Transits since May (orbs 0-1):
- Tr. Jupiter square his ASC !!!
- Tr. Jupiter oppose his Sun !!!
- Tr. Saturn conjunct his MC !!!
- Tr. Uranus trine his ASC
- Tr. Uranus sextile his Hades !!!
- Tr. Neptune oppose his Sun !!!
- Tr. Neptune square his ASC !!!
- Tr. Neptune square his Hades !!!
- Tr. Pluto sextile his Cupido
- Tr. Chiron square his ASC !!!
- Tr. Chiron square his Hades !!!

# 2, female LEO, Asc Capricorn, born 1970: also tight with money, latest freelancing projects failed; is married to her husband for about 4 years now – and suddenly they’re about to get divorced! Total surprise to all of us. I don’t know what exactly has happened in that marriage, she only told me ten days ago: “I begged him to move out immediately.” Just 3 or 4 months ago she seemed to be all in love with her man, and he seems to be a nice guy. Actually, not he his moving out of their apartment now, but she is moving out. Because her job situation is so bad currently, that she couldn’t afford to pay the rent for the big apartment alone. She looks depressed these days, sad, about 10 years older than she is, cannot concentrate on her part-time job; she also wanted to have kids and is about to 39 now, just getting divorced (no kids so far), and she told me that she was suffering from serious health problems with her bladder … (“psychosomatic”, she said)
Transits since May (orbs 0-1):
- Tr. Jupiter oppose her Sun !!!
- Tr. Saturn trine her Juno !!!
- Tr. Uranus oppose her Pluto !!!
- Tr. Neptune oppose her Sun !!!
- Tr. Pluto sextile her N.N.
- Tr. Pluto sextile her Jupiter
- Tr. Chiron oppose her Part of Fortune !!!

# 3 male LEO, Asc Capricorn, born 1965: The worst case of them all: First he was accused by his employer to have played tricks on him – actually, that Leo did! (He admitted to me) No serious things, though, no money involved, it’s about some “days off” he took, but lying to his employer. He had been working there for 7 years (the "Saturn-cycle"!) – now got fired. And since he is said to be the guilty one, social insurance won’t pay for him now. He’s going to court now, fighting for his cause – but his laywer (he hardly can afford this layer) said, it seems to be hopeless, no good chances for him. Even worse: he lives in California, near Santa Barbara – and his home burnt down about 4-6 weeks ago. he was able to fetch a few things only, but everything else got destroyed in that large fire! Since then he’s roaming from friend to friend, staying with this one for a couple of days, then with another. His parents live in Illinois. He’s an adult man he doesn’t want to move in to their house now, and he wants to find another job in California. He told me that his money is running out quickly and that he felt “helpless like a Baby” these days.
Transits since May (orbs 0-1):
- Tr. Jupiter oppose his Mercury !!!
- Tr. Saturn oppose his Saturn !!!
- Tr. Saturn conjunct his Pluto !!!
- Tr. Uranus travelling through his 2nd house these days
- Tr. Neptune oppose his Mercury !!!
- Tr. Pluto square his Ceres !!!
- Tr. Chiron travelling through his 2nd house
- Tr. N.N. square his MC !!!

From the above transits of these three “cases” one could learn:
- Jupiter-oppositions (in transit) to your Sun or Mercury can bring great damage
- Neptune-oppositions (in transit) to your Sun or Mercury can do the same
- Chiron-squares or –oppositions (in transit) bring harm, not surprisingly ….

Any takes on all this?

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ginger cancer
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posted July 09, 2009 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ginger cancer     Edit/Delete Message
my good friend who is leo is currently passing through pluto sq. pluto and saturn sq. saturn!!!!!
she did go through a very rough period of self - maturing and she admits she still feels like an immature adult.
so far, she seems quite under control, but she's been telling me she feels a big transformation period is coming. maybe because her date of birth is 23rd of july (close enough to the upcoming solar eclipse!)?

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letram
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posted July 09, 2009 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
not really, iv just finnished college, and now im looking for a job/signing on,

i have 500 in my room which ain't stolen,


the only bad thing i can think of, is that iv noticed a lump near my ass, and im concerned its cancerous and that i could die?

ain't gone doctors yet.

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Lucia23
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posted July 09, 2009 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Not really...Leo/Cap Rising. Everything's going okay except I'm lonely (which for me is unusual...used to being adored!)

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glamgem25
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posted July 09, 2009 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
My leo sun/leo moon brother in law just went thru a breakup.

Leo sun friend has been on strike at work for 3 weeks which means no pay!!

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Alvarella777
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posted July 09, 2009 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
I was just pondering on the effects of Tr. Jupiter and tr. Neptune opposing (late) Leo-Suns. My own experience with these transits are a mix. (Cancer Sun, Scorpio Asc)

While Tr. Jupiter was opposing my Sun late last year, I received a totally surprising and great job offer - which changed my life in several ways. I accepted it, moved to another town, stabilized my financial situation, and all of this kicked me out of my ruts, into completely different surroundings and a very new "day-to-day-life". I do miss some little parts of my former life - but only a few, and in fact, this has been a great approvement for me, personally and jobwise. (Natally, my Jupiter is placed in Libra in my 11th house, is ruler of my 2nd house, and is squaring my Sun, Mars and Mercury in my 8th)

Tr. Neptune opposing my Sun (mainly 1995, in my Mid-Twenties) was bad, in a way. I felt quite isolated and confused, weak and not "master of myself", like drifting on an open sea, without the usual "zest for life". My first serious relationship ended then, vaguely, and I somehow "sipped" into the next relationship (which then grew important later and lasted 9 years all together) - but I was not really "in love" when I entered that new relationship, it was more like a feeling of: "Take the little pieces that you can get, girl, at least these little pieces ... Since you're feeling that you've got nothing at all and that you'r nothing." In retrospect I must say: It WAS a shift taking place while Tr. Neptune was opposing my Sun. But still I must say: I didn't like the process and still today, I am not sure whether my decisions had been right then, it was an extremely "unconscious" time, like some "remote control" running my life - and I definitely didn't feel happy then, no spectacular emotions at all then, just all vague and lukewarm... (Natally, my Neptune is in my 1st house, cj. my Scorpio-ASC, ruler of my 4th house, squaring my Venus, trining my Sun, Mars, Mercury in my 8th; I also have my NN in Pisces/ruled by Neptune)

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Cheshire Kat
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posted July 09, 2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
My Leo friend is having boy troubles, she suspects her Gemini boyfriend has a crush on a guy..X_X but eventually they talked it out and made up..

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vertiver
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posted July 09, 2009 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yeah Alvarella777, I can back you up on your theory!


Okay I'm a Leo Sun (Sagittarius Ascendant) born 1988, T. Saturn is squaring my Asc. , Venus, and Saturn along with T. Uranus squaring my Venus and natal Uranus.

Since lovely Saturn is activating my natal Saturn, many restrictions have been apparent currently in my life. On Tuesday I found out I had been terminated from my job and this is the second time this has happened, the weirdest part about these "terminations" is that they have not been my fault. This recent termination had to due with a person out of the blue deciding to stop the project that I was working on. The worst part was that I waited about a month hoping to be placed at a different project and finally on Tuesday during the lunar eclipse, I was officially terminated. My BF is across the county and I haven't seen him for two months, but now that i don't have a job, I can visit him, so at least I can look forward to that!

The second person I know is a Leo sun (Leo Ascendant) born in 1988 as well. T. Saturn has been conjunct his natal Mercury in the 2nd house for some time, but now that Saturn isn't retrograde anymore the conjunction probably isn't as tight.

Anyways, he decided to return to where he was from and visit his parents for the summer. He was planning on getting a job right away once he got there, but it took him over two months to finally get a job. And his parents decided that they weren't going to pay for his college anymore since he isn't a straight "A" student, and he actually, gulp, likes to party and drink like every other college student out there!

The last Leo Sun ( Pisces Ascendant) born 1968, is having martial issues with his wife, and he keeps getting laid off from his job, starts a new job, and repeatedly gets laid off again. One of his friends lives in his basement, and won't leave the house even though the Leo Suns wife hates the friend, and the friend is now into hard drugs after fighting cancer, ouch! Oh and this friend is an Aquarius Sun, so maybe the nodes in Leo and Aquarius have to do with this...

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posted July 09, 2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
Well, it is pretty bad for me financially.
T. Saturn conj. N. Saturn (Saturn Return) in 8th
T. Uranus in the 2nd opp. N.& T. Saturn

Jupiter T. my 1st house has helped me get some minor help with money when I desperately need it (this weeklong job for example) but since it is in transit conj. Neptune and Chiron I can't seem to hold on to what little bit I get.

My solar return looks pretty crappy too - my SR ascendant is Cancer which is my natal 6th house. Another fun one.

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Diana
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posted July 09, 2009 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Early leo's could be hit by the eclipse. They would likely have mercury and maybe even venus in cancer or early leo.

The late leo's are being hit by jupiter/neptune/chiron

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downtomars
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posted July 09, 2009 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
Darn, of course I am 0 degrees Venus in Leo, 7 degrees Sun and 8 degrees Mercury!!!

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posted July 09, 2009 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Leo (August 1) and I relate greatly to what you said
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have to accept some damage to their “regal ambition”, to their “royal approach” to life, some heavy defeit, these days. And I see all of them suffering badly – but no one seems to be able to help them.
I'm having issues at work lately and today I came home in tears and my mind is going crazy trying to figure out the best/right way out of this situation.
I have 2 bosses, one who is rude and disrespectful towards me. I tried to communicate this more than once now to the boss above her and for some reason she just doesnt see it (although every once else seems to) - could be because she's only there twice a week and today I have suffered a defeat because now I'm being punished. Not only that but I've been busting my ass there (going above and beyond) for a long time now and I still don't feel that I'm getting respect from key people. She just doesnt see it.
I'm going crazy right now trying to process all of this and come up with a workable solution. Aside from this crap, I do like it there and dont have major problems elsewhere. But I dont see this going anywhere positive right now.
I just now decided to come on here tonight and I saw this thread, and I've been wondering why this eclipse seems to have hit me hard (and the rest of the world - Michael Jackson's death is very saddening to me - to me we've lost an ICON). I dont know what's going on.
Anybody see anything striking in my chart that would allude to this eclipse being hard. (I haven't really noticed anything significant from the last couple of eclipses)

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Leo with Scorpio Rising & Moon in Taurus.

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Diana
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posted July 09, 2009 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
The eclipse is conjunct your mars, the lunar and the solar.

The solar is square your 12th house, of hidden enemies, saturn exact and pluto.

Pluto saturn and mars would show power struggles like you described.

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posted July 10, 2009 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I'm doing ok. Not much going on in my life right now. I'm on Maternity leave until December, and feeling a bit out of touch with the real world, but I'm happy for the most part just being all about baby and home and family. No major crisis going on here. Thank Goodness. (knocks wood)

Thanks for your concern Alvarella777, about us lionhearted ones

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posted July 10, 2009 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leodiva     Edit/Delete Message
Must be for other Leos, because I'm having a lovely summer.

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posted July 10, 2009 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
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I wonder whether this could be a side-effect from the Jupiter-Neptune-Chiron-conjunction currently transiting through their opposite sign, Aquarius?

Alvarella777, I'm a early degree Leo Sun, so this conjunction isn't opposing my sun, except that this conjunction is trine my natal Venus in the 7th house, and when Jupiter exactly was trine my Venus a few months ago I finally met someone really special.

In Magi astrology they reference Chiron trine Venus transits as cinderella aspects, which I think is really corny, but seems to make sense since it is healing old wounds of love or relationships (Venus)...

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Alvarella777
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posted July 10, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
@LIONSEYE and the other people posting in this thread: I am no LEO myself ... but have sevral decisive chart-points, Arabic parts and more in Leo, amongst these my Mercury, my BM Lilith, my Venus/Mars-Midpoint, my Part of Partners and so on and so forth. My first boyfriend ever was a Leo, so was my longest and most "serious" partner (relationship lasted for 9 years), so was my latest relationship (to a Leo again, lasted 1.5 years, ended miserably and mean). My brother is a Leo, and my first female friend at elementary school was. Most of my male friends (platonic ones) happen to be Leos or have strong Leonian traits ... So ... somehow, despite of my all the water in my chart, I feel really NEAR to Leo. I'd say that ... I have "grabbed" the Leo-principle quite well - what this sign craves the most, what it hates, what it needs, etc ... THAT'S WHY I CARE. ;-) I guess Leos of the more evolved kind are gorgeous, gracious, splendid people. I met one Leo of the less evolved kind with my last relationship - he was like the meanest caricature of "Leo", extremely vain, jealous, weak, manipulative, ego-tist of the most childish kind. STILL: I love LEOS - because I know how fabulous and loving and how much fun and grace they can be.

From my own (not so nice) experience with Tr. Neptune opposing my Sun some 10 years ago, I can imagine how bad such a transit must be for Leos, for whom the Sun means even more, as their "ruling" planet ... That's why I made up that thread. And ... to express my compasion, empathy and some sort of ... understanding (maybe/hopefully).

A Scorpion Crab (with Mercury in Leo) writing this.-)

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