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Topic: Effect of minor aspects in synastries
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 12:22 PM
ok i have to admit, i've always had a problem understanding minor aspects in certain scenarios.In synastry the two obvious sexual aspects are venus/mars and venus/pluto. How do these play out though if one had, for example (hypothetically): venus semi sextile mars 0' venus sesquadrate mars 2' venus quincunx pluto 1' venus bi quintile pluto 1' in a synastry? Do they mean anything at all or do i just no't count them? I just can't figure out how minor aspects are intense or attract! IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 685 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 12:38 PM
It really depends on the systemAs you know, Magi Astrologers believe that quincunx is an important aspect in synastry it seems that they see it as more significant than a sextile even though sextile is technically a major aspect for its one of the traditional aspects that Ptolemy used....hence...Ptolemaic aspects. In Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology, the semisquare and the sesquiquadrate are regular aspects that they use in their system. ...using a 90 degree dial which shows semisquare,sesquiquadrate as oppositions. they focus mainly on the hard aspects as event oriented aspects. so they see the semisquares,sesquiquadrate as sort of tension,friction aspects that push one to action. they would consider 2 degree orb too wide for semisquare and sesquiquadrate. They use no more than 1 degree orb or maybe even 1 1/2 degree orb. Raymond ------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 12:51 PM
Thats interesting about the sesi aspect Glaucus, thanks! Yes, i forgot about the quincunx in Magi So i guess they are like the conjunct/square/opposition yet in a more diluted form? I guess if someone had all 4 of these aspects it would be fairly potent and the attraction strong. IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Germany Registered: May 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:08 PM
that's a good question, i wondered the same too. for example, i have a very tight Venus and Mars semi-square DW with someone, and our composite Venus and Mars are also in a tight semi-square. i couldn't just dismiss it as a "weaker" connection, because of the repetition... anyone have an idea how i can interpret it? just a weaker version of square?? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 685 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:14 PM
lechien,yes ...weaker version of a semisquare semisquare just means half of a square because it technically is 90 degrees is a square , and half of 90 degrees is 45 degrees which is semisquare so half of a square's influence a semisquare under 1 degree can be actually more significant than a square that is 6 degrees. Robert Hand pointed out in his book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS. Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1024 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:15 PM
Hey Lechien! Me too.. i have had that semi square aspect. No idea what it means either. hmmm its so complex, these minor aspects.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 685 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:18 PM
The following is from Adze's siteThe octile family of aspects include semi-squares and sesqui-quadrartes. A semi- square is measured from plus or minus forty-five degrees. A sesqui-quadrate is measured from plus or minus one hundred and thirty five degrees. The semi-square and sesqui-quadrate represent one eighth and five eighths of a circle respectively. Two eights is a quarter or square. Four eights is an opposition. These aspects are related. To some extent, key words for the opposition and more so the square can also be applied to the semi-square and the sesqui-quadrate. These aspects can be harsh and react sharply and abruptly. They can indicate a need to act for the future. Resistance is likely. There's a need to keep cool, act cautiously and make the best of things. It's time to resolve rather than ignore problems. Octiles resonate with Pluto, Fixed, Water and Scorpio energy. http://www.adze.com/Classroom/aspects.html Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Germany Registered: May 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:30 PM
yea, i know that it is half of square, but i wondered in this case with 3 semi-squares, i'm picturing something funny... like putting together 3 slices of pies you know then it's 1.5 of one square. maybe it doesn't work like that, but when i think of this case of mine, im always having this silly idea. what do you think? having semi-square DW plus composite semi-square = 1.5 times one square...? maybe too simplistic. now i want to bake myself a pie. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:34 PM
Lara, I'm starting to think that minor aspects can be just as potent as major ones.I love this that Redstar wrote in another thread: quote: The square is not necessarily describing the nature of the attraction/interaction on a static level (to which such descriptive characteristics as 'type' belong) but the dynamic resolution or challenge presented by the interaction - it shows how and in what manner the active impulse belonging to the aspect can be manifest - nice and easy (trine) or in a stilted, frustrated and friction-like manner (square).
I think it makes sense to look at each planet...then look at how closely they're aspecting each other...then use the aspect to understand the atmosphere and nature of their interaction. I'm still learning the ins and outs of each aspect, though...but right now (especially in my natal) I feel like a Quintile is more significant than a trine...it's like a really exhilarating conjunction. IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Germany Registered: May 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 01:40 PM
Lucia, i read that biquiltile is like quintile. do you consider them about the same or do you focus more on quintile? if then why?IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 645 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 08:21 PM
I focus more on the quintile just because I'm very new to reading minor aspects, and I started noticing how significant these seem to be in my natal...now that you say that about biquintiles, I'll start doing more research!Have you found them significant, Lechein? IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Germany Registered: May 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 05:06 AM
i'm not really sure, i only have 1 example... there is a very close friend of mine, and we share a great deal of our emotional life. but we don't have many significant aspects involving our moons, nothing between moon and Sun, Venus, Mars, beside conjunction with Jupiter. so i always wondered what was causing our deep emotional communication (can be good and bad, of course, but we never let it influence our friendship).but then, there was one thing i always dismissed because it was such a minor aspect i didn't know that much about. it's our moons biquintile exact. and also we have moon quintile my BML exact too. when you brought up about quintile, i thought maybe i should re-consider these aspects more... so... that's what i got to contribute to your research! IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Germany Registered: May 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 05:12 AM
i'm curious to know what quintile aspects in your natal chart you find significant, do you want to tell and explain how you relate to them?IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Germany Registered: May 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 05:17 AM
oh wait i just found your "show me" thread! i'll check there instead. IP: Logged |