posted July 13, 2009 04:46 PM         

Knowing the (many, and varied, and sometimes historically or mythographically debated) stories of Aphrodite does not automatically tell you what her asteroid means in your chart, or in synastry.

posted July 13, 2009 04:53 PM         

Actually, yes, it does. You just have to find the common ground of all these stories.

Anyway, you say you know Bast`s myth?

Well, what characteristics did she have (or were applied to her)?
What does she stand for mythologically?

Conjuncting your friend`s ASC could mean that your friend embodies some of Bast`s characteristic traits, especially if she has some sort of connection to Egyptian mythic world.

posted July 13, 2009 05:13 PM         

Different astrologers attribute different mythological traits to astrological entities, so I hope people will chime in with specific ideas of what Ubasti means astrologically--often there is some agreement, as in the case of Eros. My knowledge of any Egyptian mythology is cursory and google-based--my scholarship has only extended to Greek-Roman.

posted July 14, 2009 09:21 AM         

well, maybe it`s just my particular approach to astrology, as I really see it as very tightly connected to mythology. And so far it never let me down.

And if you mean the Magi with attributing "different mythological traits to astorlogical entities", well, I remain very sceptical about their findings, at least some of them.

Anyway, so you already know that Bast is leonine, as is your friend, so I guess that is a good starting point.

BTW since not so many astrologers study asteroids (except for the big ones) I don`t think there is an agreement so far.

Anyway, Bast a a war goddess.

As wargoddess and solar goddess she is a synonym for majesty, pride, strength, courage, strong will and the ability and readiness to fight. But (that is my personal view now) always with some sense of dignity.
She`s a Goddess, she`s royal and proud and she knows it.

Is that part of who your friend is?
A somewhat (quiet) strength, probably pretty stubborn, intense, able to fight (depending on the sign it is in probably)?

I have myself Ubasti conjunct my Moon in Aquarius.
And I definitely relate to that sense of pride and also stubbornness and even a bit of fight, but always and only in intellectual sense.
I am proud of my thoughts, of my mind more than of origing or anything else. And if I fight, I fight like an Aquarius does, with my mind.

So that is why I think that probably the sign Ubasti is in (SCorpio?) will give hints of how those things are experienced?

posted July 14, 2009 11:02 AM         

Astrology often involves turning a complex, multifaceted myth into an archetype used as a personality diagnosis. This is often anachronistic, not taking into account the sociocultural context, historical transformations, or multiple and not always compatible prior interpretations of the myth. Persephone/Kore is a good example...to Western astrologers, Pluto-Persephone conjunctions are a sign of love and sexual attraction between the couple in synastry, whereas another highly valid interpretation would be that Persephone feels sexually enslaved by Pluto, forced to be with him though she is not attracted to him. We often put an anachronistic spin on mythological interpretations.

The decision that Venus=open enemies, or other astrological attributions, are all interpretive and potentially controversial...but even outside of any astrological tradition, myths and archetypes are intimately shaped and transformed by cultural and historical changes, and are far from fixed or simple.

My friend is definitely up for a fight and kind of brave, but not in a dignified way! His Ubasti-ASC are in Libra. He doesn't have Leo in his natal (just draconic), but I can definitely see the war goddess aspect!

posted July 14, 2009 02:15 PM         

I see what you mean.

And I think this is an astrological field, that still needs research and study.

anway my personal opinion is, that probably most nuances of the myths can be an expression of particular asteroids.

Maybe it also depends on what is commonly understood as archetypical expression?
Like the law of resonance?
But i`m not sure about it.