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posted July 18, 2009 03:34 PM         

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My sister has moon in 8th (although it is in airy aquarius) and she gets psycho when people pull out of relationships.

I would just like to hear more about the planetary positions in the 8th and why~ what is the seperation issue? Does it feel like dying (8th house) when someone cuts ties?

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posted July 18, 2009 03:41 PM         

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sounds like it might be the intensity of her feelings, feeling bonded to that person, qualities of scorpio moon - from what i gather they don't bond to just anyone

and its a fixed sign in a fixed house - the more fixed qualities attached to something in a chart synastry or natal the more the expression is quite adamant to staying the same, considering the chart overall - if a major player is mutable then that changes things a bit, then there's a little bit of budging ~

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posted July 18, 2009 04:29 PM         

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I think the 8th house also talks about how we 'do' endings. If it's in a fixed sign then breakups would be really hard... emotionally difficult.
Also the 8th is like the consummation of the 7th I feel.
So again with a fixed sign on there, even if someone has like Libra on the 7th house cusp, with a Scorpio 8th house cusp then they become more bonded with time, and their relationships intensify. So parting would be much, much more difficult.
Just my take on it.

Like, I have Scorpio on the 7th and Sagittarius on the 8th (My Neptune is right there and conjuncts it)... if I can't dream and adventure in my relationship, then I feel the relationship's not been fully 'realized'. And I tend to be very benevolent (Jupiterian lol) in my breakups, no matter how much the person's hurt me. I move on quickly (Aries moon probably helps too LOL) and oddly enough like to travel and create some kind of geographical distance in order to 'end' it.

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posted July 18, 2009 04:47 PM         

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I have Sun, Merc, Mars in the 8th and Moon, Saturn, Venus in the 7th.

If I feel attached to someone or smitten with them I will feel that way for YEARS. I still feel in love with almost everyone I ever felt that way about.

I've been rejected once (we were not in a relationship--I was interested, he wasn't) and I found it disproportunately crushing. I have talked to friends who've endured rejection and, although no one LIKES that feeling, they didn't experience as a scar in the fabric of history or something the way I did. The rejection harmed my sense of trusting my intuition.

I think 8th house people--some, anyway--can tend to get really intense, obsessive, and deep, so our attachments to people can seem really heavy. On the other hand, when I decide to end a relationship, it's OVER.

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posted July 18, 2009 04:51 PM         

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Also--I wouldn't call it "fear" of separation.

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posted July 18, 2009 05:19 PM         

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I either dont care at all or care too much ... and when I care too much it is very difficult for me to let go, almost impossible, in other cases - can't be bothered

Pluto in the 8th

P.S I have nothing in Sco and nothing in the 8th except Pluto, can anyone tell me why I feel like I have Moon conj Pluto in Sco in the 8th opposition everything else ??

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posted July 18, 2009 05:36 PM         

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Pluto all alone in a house can feel MORE Plutonian than if it has a stellium around it.

My friend has Pluto in his 1st, alone--and he sort of IS Pluto.

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posted July 18, 2009 05:46 PM         

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Interesting, Lucia. I think you might be on to something there.

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posted July 18, 2009 06:15 PM         

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I have that with Jupiter in Pisces all alone in my 2nd house. I think it's more pronounced than if it were conjunct key planets.

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posted July 19, 2009 11:27 AM         

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They fear separation more than anyone, coz relationships are meaningful to them more than anyone. For better or worse.

On the positive side, they understand how rare and precious deep bonds truly are, so that's why they know their value. On the negative side, they might get too obsessed with these bonds, and also might not be able to let go.

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posted July 19, 2009 06:07 PM         

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Very interesting topic. It is something I can relate to. For someone the person is deeply involved with, or fully trust, pulling away is unconceivable. It's like pulling part of your soul away from your self, its not possible at all. Going "psycho" is a coping mechanism to make sense of the loss, and it will continue until the object of focus returns. This is dependent on the level of attachment and trust offered. Moon in the 8th needs to trust another fully.

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posted July 19, 2009 06:56 PM         

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I just wouldn't say I "fear" separation--for a 7th/8th house dominated person, I am very independent. But I agree about the level of caring.

It's less about fear of separation than a Plutonic obsession with connecting deeply and always getting deeper/closer instead of further away. At my worst, I feel anger/dark passion/obsession/control, not fear. There is a bit of "how DARE they" in my immature moments, but maybe that's because I am an 8th house LEO, lol.

At my best, I feel intensity/passion/depth/fascination/excitement/collision. It's not a fear of separation--just a love of deep, intense, transformational, erotic merging (on the upside) and an unwillingness to abide anyone resisting our power and magnetism (on the downside.)

The 8th house challenge is to dare to allow OURSELVES to fully experience the transformational intensity of our emotions, rather than using all that intensity to control other people.

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posted July 19, 2009 07:31 PM         

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i have sun+sat in 8th house aries but cusp is pisces.
i can t take separations if im emotionally involved but i cut fast if theres no emotion left

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posted July 19, 2009 11:48 PM         

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"...There is a bit of "how DARE they" in my immature moments..."

Oh. That is SO me too, Lucia! LOL!
This might be my 5th house and Aries moon acting up too.

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