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Glaucus
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posted July 27, 2009 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I was reading stuff on declination longitude equivalent chart. They seem to show a hidden dimension and fill in blanks that are in regular charts.


Declination Charts -- A New Way of Using Old Techniques

by Bette Denlinger
©1996 Revised 1998, 2002

Author Note: Converting the declinations to their ecliptic equivalents makes sound astronomical sense and provides enormous extra information for an astrologer to work with in delineation. Declination conversions are the "hidden agenda" in a chart, that once took much effort to calculate and had to be tabulated in numerical lists. The cumbersome grid to erect declination charts has never been popular. However, now that there is software to quickly convert the declinations to their equivalents, and by using the standard chart wheel that astrologers are accustomed to utilizing, we may now REALLY look at declinations from the perspective of the traditional chart.

By creating what I call an "Icosa Chart" and comparing it to the natal horoscope much new information comes to "light." Using the Icosa Chart will revolutionize the way astrologers use declinations.

The following article attempts to explain not only the theory behind converting declinations into degrees of longitude, but also how to erect a chart using declinations and delineate it with several chart examples.

Declination Charts -- A New Way of Using Old Techniques

Recently I mentioned declinations to someone at an astrology conference and the person thought it would be a subject her group would be interested in since I "had something new". Declinations are not new -- they are an old technique. With Uranus in Aquarius the old, traditional methods are being unburied and re-examined as is seen with the emergence of interest in Arabic Parts, the Moon's Nodes, and retranslations of ancient astrology texts.

My battered copy of Margaret Hone's Textbook of Astrology says to make note of planets in parallel or contraparallel and interpret those as mild conjunctions or oppositions. My older textbooks from the 20's and 30's list aspect interpretations for the planet conjunct and/or parallel another, as well as oppositions and/or contraparallel. Raphael's Ephemeris lists not only the declinations, but also the distances apart of conjunctions and oppositions by declination.

It seems that declinations were given much more attention in the past than in the last twenty five years.

Recently there has been a resurgence of interest in declinations due to Kt Boehrer's book, Declinations, The Other Dimension, and the Magi Society's Astrology Really Works. Ed Dearborn published an article in AFA's Today's Astrologer in the spring of 96. The sign of the times is to explore these more thoroughly....... again.

Icosa Charts are charts using the declinations translated into longitudinal equivalents so we can better see the activity or "essences" of a planet. Astrologers have only looked at the parallel or contraparallel in the past, but by this method other formations may be viewed within a chart.

Icosa Charts use only the longitudinal equivalents and their solstice points in the common chart wheel to explore these energies.

So many times a transit appears to wait until after it is exact by longitude to manifest, or it "hurries" up and is in operation sooner than expected. The explanation by conventional astrologers is that "some planets have a wider orb", or "Saturn is slow", or, "this is a sensitive soul," etc. However, once you start using the declination equivalents you will see that the planet has an additional two locations in a chart, and that these are the actual trigger points when transits or progressions appear to be activated early or late. Icosa Charts show the third dimension of the planetary energies and let an astrologer view it in the format that he is accustomed to using -- the chart wheel. With an Icosa Chart you will see where the planet really is located.

ICOSA CHARTS
What are they?

An icosahedron is a polyhedron having 20 faces, and when one utilizes the longitudinal equivalents of the declinations the result is 20 points. Icosa is a root word that refers to anything that has 20 sides. Just so an Icosa Chart uses 20 points to compare to the planetary positions in the icosanatal chart. Space is not flat like the piece of paper we draw our chart wheels on, so this chart format allows us to see the other dimension on the familiar one dimensional circle astrologers are accustomed to using. When I first began using declination conversions I immediately put the results in a chart wheel. Then I found out by talking to other people using declinations that this was a unique idea. Putting the converted declinations in a chart wheel format makes them visual...and one can clearly see the aspects, interchanges with the natal chart, and houses where a planet is also "vibrating". I finally found a name for this technique...the Icosa Chart.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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Glaucus
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posted July 27, 2009 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
In my own chart:

I have a grand cross of the following

Venus in 21'36 Scorpio in 3rd
Mercury in 22'30 Scorpio in 3rd
Neptune in 24'43 Scorpio in 3rd

Pluto in 22'18 Leo in 12th

Saturn in 25'04 Taurus R in 9th

Mars in 18'43 Aquarius in 6th
Eris in 21'14 Aquarius R in 6th

This grand cross indicates a strong diversity/divergence/controversial,unity,dissolution,idealism,transformation,trauma,restrictions/structure theme in regards to neurological processing/learning/education, sexual hormones(testosterone,estrogen levels), love/relationships/values, work/health/routine/organization and service,psychology/psychiatry,spirituality/religion/beliefs


Saturn is contraparallel the parallel of Mercury-Venus-Neptune in the declinations
In declination longitude equivalent chart, Saturn opposes Mercury-Venus-Neptune

Pluto is contraparallel Mars-Eris in the declinations
In declination longitude equivalent chart, Pluto is oppose Mars-Eris

There is no major aspect nor declination aspect involving Mercury-Eris,Venus-Eris,Neptune-Eris

Eris wasn't discovered when Bette Dunlinger wrote the article either. Who knows what Eris aspects were in the charts that she examined. They could fill in some blanks like they do in my chart.

There is also trine involving Ceres in 19'46 Cancer

Ceres trine Mercury-Venus-Neptune
indicates a communications,love,idealism is combined with nurturin
There are no major aspect involving them in the regular chart

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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geemeeni
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posted July 29, 2009 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geemeeni     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus,

Thank you for the suggestion. I just charted mine and see a grand cross as well, though one point of that only includes the MC and Part of Fortune.

Saturn at 14'17 Leo
IC at 12'45 Leo
Chiron at 13'30 Taurus
MC at 12'45 Aquarius
Part of Fortune 11'54 Aquarius
Uranus at 15'19 Scorpio
Vertex at 14'21 Scorpio

What is interesting to me, comparing this type of chart to my natal, I see some of the same conjunctions but just shifted to a different place in the sign. I'm gonna have to think about this some more when I'm not so sleepy

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posted July 30, 2009 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus, I dont understand how we create an icosa chart. Can you explain to me please?

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Glaucus
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posted July 30, 2009 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I don't know.

I calculated mine with Solar Fire.


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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