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Topic: Horary... stolen items
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 02:56 PM
I got mugged last night and thankfully I am ok, but some of my things were taken. My Visa/debit (which I canceled and have had re-issued), but, more pressing, are my IDs... some of them are really important. Because the guys were really blatant about the robbery (hitting people left and right that night, according to the cops), they have a good chance of getting caught.I really hope I can have my IDs retrieved.... Can anyone help, and tell me how the odds look? I know I'm really reaching here, but any help / feedback would be highly appreciated Oh, also... it's interesting to note that the robbery happened to me like RIGHT as the moon was becoming void-of-course. Of course I didn't draw a horary chart then, but just that it happened at that time feels kind of bad to me. Like it's all gone forever For some reason, I have hope, but I don't know why. Delusion. IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 873 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 03:04 PM
i don't know horary, but wanted to say - THANK GOD YOU ARE OK!IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 03:05 PM
xoxoxo Thank you. IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 741 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 03:09 PM
I am so sorry MVM! does anyone know what orbs should be used in horary charts?there is an example of horary for missing objects but they say nothing about the orbs http://www.skyscript.co.uk/wit.html IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 03:30 PM
Thanks, Peri I don't know about the orbs at all. The link says to look at the 4th house too, and the 4th is ruled by Saturn, which is sitting (hidden) in the 12th house. Also, the link says to look at Mercury for lost paper/documents, and that's sitting in the 11th. I don't know... IP: Logged |
Writesomething Knowflake Posts: 987 From: meet me in montauk Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 04:09 PM
Okay Im looking at this thru baby eyes but hopefully this helps...Okay, ASC represents you, and youre asking about possessions which is 2nd house, both are in the same sign...they are connect together. 7th house is mars, and 2nd house is venus about to go into mars...Im thinking it will be a few weeks but you will get your items...mars will catch up with venus and connect again. Okay, thats how I see it...the best hope I saw is the 1st and 2nd house connection. Im so sorry this happened to you, but thank god youre okay...I cant even imagine. do you have any pepper spray on hand? i always carry one in my purse, I would recommend getting some. anyways, I hope you get your stuff back. IP: Logged |
Antiquarianbookcollector Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:02 PM
I can't read charts yet but I just wanted to say, "Thank goodness you're okay!"IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:12 PM
Thanks, ABC Writes... thanks! Yeah, it was a bunch of guys in a car so I think pepper spray would've made them mad LOL I saw them coming and crossed the street so that only one guy had to run out to chase me, grab my bag, then run away quickly. It all happened so fast. I'm pretty mad, but also relieved I'm ok. I just hope I can stay safe, because I've not even been here 2 months and I don't want to always be worried about my security. I think I might move into SF in a few months... I'd always felt safer there. But it's really more expensive. IP: Logged |
downtomars Knowflake Posts: 234 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:15 PM
Oh my goodness - I am glad that you are okay MVM!IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 1082 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:35 PM
glad you're okay, MVM! but what a stinker!i am no horary expert so this may be all wrong. the asc is in libra (justice) and the 7th (sign others being the robbers in this case) aries, agression obviously. venus is in the ninth nearing the MC which to me suggests you are attracting justice (again) and will soon be seen to receive. a little farfetched i know. i am madam extemporanie when it comes to horary.[it probably isn't really horary at all] but the other good thing i see is the grand trine between moon, venus and the chir/nept/jupiter conj. maybe this will turn out to be a blessing in disguise! but the void of course moon would suggest to me that the whole thing will at least blow over! what happens on the v-o-c tends not to take or at least not in a serious way... i'm praying for you that these guys are not locals because even if you get your stuff back and they go to jail, it will probably be a short visit in the big house...hopefully they will avoid your manor from now on!! IP: Logged |
Alia Knowflake Posts: 316 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:46 PM
MVM wow thankfully u didnt get hurtusually IDs are thrown away or put in mailboxes by people who finds them on the streets. just wanted to say there s a great forum specifically for horary lost/stolen items u can ask there as well. http://astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=45 IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:48 PM
Oh, My Word. Sorry. MVM. I'm so glad you're okay!!! I didn't come into the thread cuz it was Horary and I wouldn't have been of any help. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 05:51 PM
Thank you all... it's been such a freaky day so far. Katatonic, Alia, thanks for the info. I thankfully do NOT have my current address on my license or documents. It's my Florida address. I just got off the phone with an investigator (to his chagrin , I grilled him about his identity... can't trust anyone). Anyway, he was asking me to call my bank to see if any purchases were even attempted on my debit card (even though I canceled it and have had it re-issued, and blocked), but I called my bank and there were no attempts at all. So now they can pretty much deduce that since I had no cash (and no laptop in my laptop bag either... which I think they were hoping for), then most likely my stuff was thrown away. The problem is that most of my IDs are in there. Either way, the guys apparently hit up like 5 people or something ridiculous last night, so they have a few people whose cases they are investigating at the moment. I'm hoping someone will stumble on my stuff and be kind enough to return it somehow, which I know is far-fetched. The whole process of re-applying for IDs is SUCH a pain in the a$$. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 216 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 06:00 PM
MVM,I'm so sorry to hear what happened yesterday and I thank God that you are OK. I'm also enraged at those frickin' thieves!! I really do hope they get caught and you get your things back. IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 450 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 07:00 PM
OMG, how awful! Glad you are OK!
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Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 334 From: No Permanent Address Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 08:26 PM
Ack! MVM, I'm glad you're ok.Next time you go out and you're in an unsafe area I suggest you imagine being surrounded by a shield made of blue light and give off a don't-mess-with-me vibes. (Bad guys size up their target's vibes to determine if they'll make a good victim). I used to do this a lot when I was commuting by bus in college to ward off strangers. No one would take the seat beside me even if the bus was crowded. Try it! LOL. As for the IDs, you can try getting them back. Get into a relaxed state, visualize them in your hands and feel as though they've just been returned to you. Make an intention that you be led to the IDs or they be led to you. We don't know how the Universe will orchestrate it but miracles have been known to happen. IP: Logged |
origami_salami Knowflake Posts: 62 From: Arizona Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 10:17 PM
Oh wow -- I'm so glad you're okay!Looking at the horary: both you and the items are represented by Venus, so we'll use the moon as your significator and Venus as the significator for the lost items. The moon is separating from a trine to Venus, showing you have lost contact with the items. POF conjunct the IC looks promising for recovering them. Several factors in the chart suggest looking southwest from the place the incident happened; with Mars (your muggers) sharing the same house as the 2nd house ruler, the IDs may be near the place you got mugged (or unfortunately, still with the muggers). 9th house could represent a school, place of higher learning, religious institution, or some place foreign in nature (ethnic restaurant or store, street named after a foreign city or country, etc.). The sign of Gemini suggests high places, near offices or communication equipment or buildings, newspaper office, panelled rooms... places frequented by people. With IC and POF in Capricorn -- old dark places, old buildings, detailed architecture, business places, near walls or boundaries. Possibly also on the ground or somewhere low. Look in any of the above locations, again in a south or west direction. Unfortunately, 2nd house ruler in a succedent house can show the item is a long way off and will be hard to find... but POF is in a good spot and in aspect with your significator, so don't give up hope yet! IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2009 11:10 PM
Thank you, guys!!!!Deux... yes, I've been visualizing my things in my hand, and I have a strong feeling I will find them. I know it's very ambitious of me to think so, but I can't shake the feeling. So I'll just go with it and continue visualizing. Origami_salami (I love your name, lol)... this is such useful info me. I'm going to take a walk in the area tomorrow afternoon, and keep an eye out. Wish I had a car so I could properly 'comb' the area.... but I do have a couple of friends with cars, so we'll see. My roommates have been complete sweethearts... they've cooked for me and are bringing me comfort food lol. I think I've gained 5 lbs. today from eating, but I feel so blessed and grateful IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 232 From: formerly Dulce Luna Registered: May 2009
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posted July 29, 2009 12:50 AM
Geez, I'm so sorry that happened! I'd like to echo the rest and say, Thank God you're okay! IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 1082 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2009 08:42 PM
please, take someone with you. scene of the crime and all that...!IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 934 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 07:29 PM
Thanks, guys!A little update: They've retrieved my wallet but only my social security card was in it. I should never have been carrying it in the first place... still, it's nice to have it back IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 216 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 01, 2009 02:56 AM
Out of everything that they could have found, that's the most important thing. I know it's a pain to replace everything else, but if those crooks had the intention of stealing your identity, you would never have gotten your social security card back. In this case, consider yourself incredibly extremely lucky. Wow.It took me a while to learn this, but I finally got it, don't walk around with your social security card on your person unless you need it on a particular day. That's the one thing you don't want others to get in this day and age. And still, I'm glad you're alright. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 398 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 01, 2009 08:33 PM
MVM ~I'm so relieved that you're alright I haven't studied horary, so I can't help there, but there's a good chance that someone will find and return your ID's. I was picking my son up at school one afternoon a few years ago, and locked my purse in the car. I was inside less than 5 minutes and came back out to find my car window smashed and my purse gone. I got calls from the police several days later that my purse had been found in a ditch, and my ID's and credit cards had been tossed out a car window in a park 50 miles away (when the smash'n'grabbers discovered that they'd been inactivated). They wrote checks at restaurants, grocery stores and Home Depot (the perps were arrested). I got everything back except my cell phone and checkbook..... may you be as fortunate as I Re the SS card: were I you, I might sign up for one of those credit monitoring services (I use Equifax) -- it will send you emails if someone tries to open an account somewhere in your name, or when your credit is checked -- $9.95 a month is pretty cheap insurance against identity theft..... IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 334 From: No Permanent Address Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 02, 2009 07:00 AM
Glad to know your SS card is back.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 594 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 02, 2009 07:06 AM
Jeepers!!! I'm so glad you're okay!!!Being a dynamic woman, you sure have an interesting life!!!! IP: Logged |