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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 30, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I'm very curious and interested what can be gleaned here... observations are welcome!

EDIT: Never mind, wrong birth time.

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Writesomething
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posted July 30, 2009 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Hey i think its christian bale's chart....lol....

um, honestly? I see this man chart and think, if you want commitment, run the other way, but if youre open to a friendship and not expecting anything too serious, then enjoy. Hes probably pretty exciting and intriguing, but I cant see this as someone you want to pin your hopes on for a serious relationship. Something with his mother....im sensing something, chiron conj Moon, and opposing uranus...yes, most of his relationship issues and fears stem from something his mother did, maybe she cheated or was just someone he couldnt depend on.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 30, 2009 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Just the 12th house Venus alone weirds me out for some reason.
I also have the Moon/Uranus opposition with Chiron conjuct Moon, so I can't be too judgmental with that lol

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belgz
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posted July 30, 2009 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
i have venus in 12th square uranus and jupiter.
Hes got venus in cappy which is more serious about love. And it may just mean hes more reserved about how he shows love.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 30, 2009 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys

Belgz, is your Venus retro as well?
Yeah, he can be pretty reserved, but I think he might be a little loopy in love, i.e, not wanting to be 'tied down'.
Erm, but then I'm kind of that way too... lol

I always hear Venus 12th is all about idealism, and sometimes 'secret affairs', but having a 12th house moon myself I think the 12th house in general is so maligned and misread, it's sometimes so hard to tell.

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sunshine9
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posted July 30, 2009 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message
Heya gal!

Wow, are you dating this guy?? What's the story (if you want to share it, of course)?!

So, here's the basic breakdown of his chart:

His Aqua Sun / Aries Moon must produce a strong character as it combines the intellectuality of Aquarius with the spirit and fieryness of Aries. With Mars in Taurus and Venus in Capricorn, he must be a bit lazy, sensual, stubborn, and is attracted to serious, ambitious types. He is probably reserved in his expression of his feelings. Wow, do I see a Mercury and Jupiter also in Aquarius? Those placements produce an original thinker who is witty and progressive, impartial and tolerant. Saturn in Gemini shows excellent problem-solving capabilities and a rational approach, though that probably isn't why you like him .

More to come,
Sunshine, who is enjoying this (boy, it's been too long!)

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 30, 2009 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm. Empty 7th & 8th houses?

Not sure how into "relationships" he is...

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posted July 30, 2009 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
What's his birthday #?

Lots of secrets. Venus in the 12th; secret relationships, drawn to the occult sciences, loves spiritual women, and all things hidden.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Nine, I'm not sure what you mean by birthday #... you mean the day of his birthday? He was born January 30th

Sunshine, how are you ... yes, we've been on ONE date so far, so I am not really letting myself get all carried away (trying!)... But we had a really wonderful 1st date, just talked for hours on end like good friends, about almost everything. It felt very familiar and comfortable, and easy, plus we just spent so much time laughing together. I'm wondering if it's the Moon-Moon conjunction which is doing it, and of course my own Jupiter in Aqua is all happy and conjunct his Venus and MC (as his Venus conjuncts my MC as well), but we're both expressing interest.

Then I looked at his chart and was like, Oooh, when I saw the weird 12th house Rx Venus square Uranus. I am most certainly one to judge, but I wonder....

Still, for now, it's nice

As far as 7th and 8th houses being 'empty', I don't really see this as an issue. I only have Neptune in the 7th/8th house and it's not a problem (just as I've seen people with 7th and 8th house stelliums which avoid relationships like the plague lol)

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posted July 31, 2009 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
It looks like he is quite a few aspects to planetary nodes

orbs for planetary nodes - 2 degrees


He has strong Eris energy with the Eris Nodes in Taurus/Scorpio oppose his Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis.
That could indicate a strong theme involving diversity,ideology,equality matters and can be controversial.

He has strong Neptune energy with Sun oppose/conjunct the Neptune Nodes in Leo/Aquarius. That can indicate that the ego,self expressions is connected to the collective imagination,idealism,inspiration.

His Venus squares the heliocentric Chiron Nodes in Libra/Aries. That indicates the possible of significant pain,wounding in his relationship,romantic past, but also the potential for healing and teaching. Venus square Chiron Nodes can be maverick when it comes to love,relationships.


The Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in Gemini/Sagittarius sextile his Ascendant/Descendant axis which indicates independent,innovative,unconventional persona.


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Raymond

He does seem highly individualistic and I felt a strong Neptunian vibe from him (and he also seems HIGHLY compassionate), probably the 12th house flavoring as well.
He also seems highly ambitious, but is going about it in a rather unique way, working toward it in small, steady steps. But he's still rather unconventional in his approach, sort of going and doing his own thing, not at all about the 'conventional' ... feels calculating, and he's good at long-term planning by the looks of it.

He was actually born Jan 30th, 1974 (in Australia). I'm curious why it would seem he's born in August...

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Glaucus
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posted July 31, 2009 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
MVM,

I made a mistake. I am sorry about that.
I corrected it.

please read the changes that I made.

I got the Aquarius Sun mixed up with Leo Sun
when I was thinking of conjunctions to heliocentric Neptune Nodes

so thought Sun was conjunct North Heliocentric Node when his Sun is actually conjunct the South Heliocentric Neptune Node.

North Neptune Node is in Leo and South Neptune Node is in Aquarius.


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
It's cool, Raymond... thanks

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Glaucus
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posted July 31, 2009 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

hmmmmm

seeing that he was born with Sun in tropical Aquarius in Australia , it does make me wonder if he can relate to Sun in tropical Leo because of the tropical zodiac being northern hemisphere season based zodiac and his being born in southern hemisphere. I wonder if flipping the sunsigns for people born in southern hemisphere work.


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond, it's funny you should say that because I was wondering the same thing when you initially thought his b-day was August!

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Lucia23
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posted July 31, 2009 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
That Aquarius stellium crossing his ASC, with Sun in the 12th, could make him very much a humanitarian and, combined with some of those Uranus and Neptune aspects, an idealist. A lot of his energy, at his best, would go toward trying leave a positive impact on the world. This is a guy you would want want running your nonprofit or community group, or a guy you would bring with you to a cholera-infested warzone, where he would tirelessly deworm babies for 23 hours a day (I am mixing my disasters, sorry.) Romance--ehhh--I'll get to it later.

Saturn in the 5th, square Pluto? Realllyyy tough. A 5th house Saturn tends to self-sabotage when it comes to fun, creative work, and romance. If it seems like it's going to be fulfilling, yet easy, Saturn there gets suspicious and hits the eject button just as things are starting to get good. In his case, the fact that his Saturn is mutable and trine Jupiter and Mercury will ease the problem a bunch. Still--when he starts to feel really romantic/excited, that's when this placement would get tweaked and he could sabotage himself--and the love interest.

With Mars opposite his IC and square Sun, Mercury, and Jupiter, he could have a lot of frustration turning his humanitarianism and idealism into action. If he is working well with the energies of his chart and is mature, this could bring discipline and determination to his work. If he is immature/not working effectively with his energies and living conscientiously yet, he could end up 'settling" for work he doesn't believe in and burying his idealism, which would make him bitter and scary. Since you are attracted to him, I'm guessing it's the first option--he may have learned to deal constructively with frustrations and setbacks.

Now I'm going to say a bunch of stuff, and Aquariuses and others will tell me how wrong I am, but I'm going to say it anyway--

As long as you are not romantically too interested and not emotionally invested in an Aquaman, he will come on stronger than a freaking Scorpio...I had one Aqua who bought me gifts and started naming our future children before we'd even made out. IF you start to get emotional with Aquaman, even in your own head, suddenly it's--where's Aquaman?? He'll have some babies to deworm, a world (not yours) to save, or just some blank spot on the wall to look at instead of your eyes. You will feel like you never knew him. He will be dying to talk about his feelings until that tiny, subtle shift takes place inside you, and then he will never want to talk about them again ever, even if you get married. With this dude, all his Aquarianness is mixed with those Mars squares, Aries Moon opp Uranus, and Saturn sq Pluto...trying to push him=a volatile situation at best. More likely, an irreconcilable situation.

You'd have to always play hard-to-get romantically with this guy (not sexually forever, but romantically FOREVER--even if you wed, you could never let him know you really loved him unless you wanted to see his cute progressive ass fleeing into the basement or onto a 747, never to emerge), while having a full life that constantly thrilled and intrigued him, and being his friend, but just staying believably emotionally aloof, even when HE got ardent and it seemed like he was being honest and straight-shooting intimacy was safe.

With your Aries Moon I doubt you are a huge fan of games or coquettishness, so you might be more comfortable in a long-term relationship with someone other than Mars-squares Aquaman...it really does look like bearable romantic relationships with ANYONE might not be his forte, even though he is a really cool, interesting, maybe even great, guy.

It's not just that he might be reserved, "loopy in love", or commitment phobic--it is possible he is also genuinely difficult (volatile yet noncommunicative, angry yet distant, confused yet confusing) in that arena, and that it wouldn't show up during the courtship stage...so you would want to make sure it was a looonnnggg courtship stage and you knew each other very well...and knew his family history, and knew whether he had issues with violence or controlling behaviors, etc.

I think 12th house placements are very nice--I see it as less "secretive" and more inward-focused (sometimes under the surface), often in a thoughtful way. It can bring depth to a person to have a stellium in the 12th. Earthy Mars-Venus could=nice, sensuous sex, barring possible violence or control issues stemming from family dysfunction (Mars in 4th with lots of squares can be tricky that way.)

Apologies if I've misread the chart--I'm not wearing my contacts, and it's bedtime.

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posted July 31, 2009 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, Lucia, I really dug your post... had me laughing and contemplating!!

I definitely am not looking to start a relationship quickly with anyone... and a prolonged courtship is my way to go. Don't get me wrong... my Aries Moon and Scorpio Venus/Mars Taurus (both square Jupiter) feel emotion so intensely, so quickly, I could pass out sometimes
.. But I also know that, which is why I insist on not rushing.

As for the Aquaman phenomena ... well, I gotta say I can agree with you, just from what I've seen. Every single Aqua I've dated has come on so strongly, I've run for the hills (and this one is starting to do it already too to an extent, saying he hates games and prefers directness... ooooohh, Aquaman, why do you mock me ) ... so it's interesting, because when they start inching in on me, I get all alarmed and take off and they always pursue HARD, and of course, on cue, I run ... but this time I am not running so much as holding back, because I am soooooooo not going to jump into the deep end. Hell no.

Since I've never had a long-term relationship with an Aqua, or even 'seriously' dated one (and even when I attempted to in the past, my feelings were never full-blown since I was too busy running lol), I have no idea about how they would be. And maybe that will or won't change, we shall see ... But I do know nothing here is going to be rushed because I don't play that way, especially since I am looking for something more substantial with the legs to go long-term.

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posted July 31, 2009 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Transiting retrograde Eris is conjuncting his Moon in 3rd house, and that could indicate a time of learning lessons about diversity,equality matters involving feelings,women in the areas of communication. There might be some controversy,discord in communicating with women. controversial women coming into his life is a possibility.


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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winter
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posted July 31, 2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia, that was an awesome interpretation.
I've had a light bulb moment with your Saturn in 5th description (so thats why he's like that).
An excellent reading, I was riveted.

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belgz
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posted July 31, 2009 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
no its not retro. But... When uranus opposed my venus in 12th i ended up falling for my friends b.f and we got married. It lasted 48 hrs. Now neptune is opposing my venus hahaha im scared.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 31, 2009 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
MVM--

I keep forgetting you have Venus in Scorpio.

My son's father is actually an Aqua. VERY intense courtship, and yes, he came on quite strong. I didn't run though, I was attracted to that intensity. Perhaps you might be too.

The only problem with that is that once I was ready to settle down and get to the business of sustaining and strengthening our relationship, he got...distracted.

It was very push/pull. He was genuinely very loving and affectionate, he just couldn't give me the...DEPTH I needed.

Your Aquaman sounds like he might be just intriguing and challenging enough to hook you good. Good Luck! Keep us posted, I love hearing about how these things play out.

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Natal Tidbits

Sun in Virgo
Moon in Taurus
Mercury in Libra
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo
Pisces Rising

Heavy 7th & 8th house placements

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenusGirl, thanks for relating

It's interesting because I had the same problem you spoke of with my ex-husband, but he was a Capricorn.... he had major Uranus stuff going on too - stellium in the 11th, Sun, Mars, and Mercury squaring Uranus. He also came on VERY strongly, then rested on his laurels when it came time to do the actual WORK on the relationship, seeming distracted.... so that there wasn't any substantial or satisfying depth.
In general if a relationship not substantial to me, or if it doesn't offer the depth I need, then I have a tendency of unceremoniously dumping it because I lose all patience (especially now lol).

As of now, I'm trying to not put myself in a corner emotionally. I've had this Uranus opposition to my Sun in transit which feels erratic (it's been going on for over a year). I like someone, then I don't know for sure. I change my mind constantly. The only thing I can do now is pace myself and not box myself into any one decision prematurely, just get to know the person without making decisions based on my emtions alone... which is very, very hard on my Venus, and my Aries moon, but it feels necessary.
I'm also 'dating' which is new for me (and I hate). I much prefer to spend time with one person and just go from there, but it feels like I have to kind of comply with the forces to get a look at what's 'out there' before making any decisions.
It's kind of annoying.

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