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StelliumH6
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posted July 31, 2009 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message
I would like to give the astrological signs/houses/and tight orb aspects of this fascinating man.
Asc Aries
Sun Aries 1st house
Moon Aquarius 11th house
Mars Capricorn 10th
Venus Pisces 12th
Mercury Aries 1st
Uranus Libra 6th
Saturn Taurus 1st
Pluto Virgo 6th
Neptune and Jupiter Sag 8th
A few ASTEROIDS ...
VALENTINE Pisces 12th
EROS Taurus 1st
AMOR Taurus 1st
JUNO Gemini 3rd
Major Aspects ...
Mars trine Saturn 0*
Sun conjunct Mercury 0*
Moon square Saturn 1*
Venus oppos Pluto 1*
Jupiter conjunct Neptune 2*
Saturn square NN 2*

I have been trying to figure out how he works for years now. He really enjoys his beer. Lives in the moment. He has had many girls. He insistently talks about how he can get anyone to go home with him. He loves everyone.
Can someone with this attitude ever change his lifestyle and be faithful to a wife? What kind of a person does he want? What type of companion does he need? How do you think he shows his feelings? All interpretations will be graciously read to better understand this beast.


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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, he's so full of it with the bragging. It's all just talk
I've noticed men with a lot of Aries tend to say things like this, but when it comes right down to it they are purring little kittens when they fall in love (and will completely, literally, fall to their knees - acting the very opposite of what they say lol), and they know that, so they always have to make up for it by talking a good game (esp with his Mercury Aries).

Also, with the Venus in the 12th (Venus also being the ruler of his 7th), and in Pisces, I'd probably say to an extent that he's an idealist, and an unrealistic one at that. Since he's over 35, my feeling is that his expectations have been inflated for finding the 'perfect' woman, or relationship, so that anything 'real' will never measure up to the beautiful, secret dream of falling in love (and he's at heart a VERY dreamy-eyed romantic who's kind of disowned that part of himself... when he 'loves' everyone, he loves selflessly, but to give over time, he has to have a level of mystery and intrigue to keep him interested). Anything too easily won will be dismissed.

A woman who lets his comments bounce off her, and who is elusive and mysterious and yet compassionate would probably drive him crazy. Definitely a woman who is feminine and yet also very much her own person. She'd have to be elusive, and slippery. He feels like he'd fall in love over time...and all of a sudden.

But frankly it's hard to say too much without an actual chart to look at, though, so if you could post one it would be highly helpful!

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StelliumH6
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posted July 31, 2009 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you MVM! Your analysis was amazing!

I feel he is arrogant as he may actually have low self-confidence. He says he has the 'speaks'. Although I do have to admit he's charming, flirtatious, smart - - Mercury Aries.

"Anything real will never measure up to his perfect image." Is this why he fools around a lot?

"He has to have a level of mystery and intrigue to keep him interested." How would you go about portraying these mysterious intriguing behaviors to seize his attention?

I come back with 'whatever!' comments when he talks his talk. "Drive him crazy." I am assuming you mean in a good way!

She should act "slippery." Do mean as if he thinks he could never get her? He continues to pursue until he does. Then is the attraction over?

I will try to figure out how to post his natal chart.

Thanks again MVM.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted July 31, 2009 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Stellium! - I'm glad it was a bit helpful

As far as his fooling around a lot, I would attribute this to the fear of his own mortality lol. I hate to sound all pop psychology about it, but it's just how I feel. And plus he's got Mars in the sign of the horny goat (Capricorn) in the 10th, Sun in the 1st... I imagine he views himself (on a good day) as a somewhat stylish, rugged bad-boy bachelor... no doubt this is much more palatable than a sometimes lonely guy with unrealistic standards who hasn't found a woman who can take him seriously (since he might sometimes give the appearance of not taking himself seriously at all!).

When I said mystery and intrigue keep him interested I just meant that he feels very 'been there, seen that, and I've got the tee-shirt to prove it'... so I mean bringing something new to the table, something to keep him on his toes. I can't come up with specifics because I'm talking really more about what's within.... I don't know if that's the kind of thing that can be 'manufactured' internally.

And when I say slippery I do mean elusive. Not someone who's impossible to get, but someone who can make him THINK he's 'captured' her, and then who can give way to chase again... and I haven't the foggiest idea how to do this... it would definitely get exhausting
... But i think he does want to be (pleasantly) exhausted .... he's got the Aries pioneer energy and the mountain goat Cappy energy, all poised to go the distance and go full-force.
Essentially, the woman has to be like a Mount Everest, a person who is potentially treacherous (I don't mean evil, I mean just... a challenge, lots of peaks and stuff lol), difficult, elusive (he can slip and fall anytime), and yet also worth it.
A little high-maintenance for sure.

I hope that makes sense!

EDIT: also, what aspects does the ruler of his seventh house make? You said he's an Aries rising so the ruler of his 7th house is Venus and she's hiding in the 12th... which would mean that partnership is a mystery even to him. I just get that Venus oppose Pluto, and I can almost guarantee you that he's highly jealous, and there's a person in the past who wounded him BADLY. But I'd be curious as to what other aspects Venus makes... and even the ruler of his 8th as well.

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StelliumH6
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posted August 01, 2009 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message
Hi MVM! You are so smart!

He does not have any planets in his 7th house.

The ruler of his 8th is Pluto which is in Virgo house 6.

Aspects to Venus ... Venus SEXTILE Mars 3*
Venus SEXTILE Saturn 3*
Wider orbs ... Venus TRINE Jupiter 9*
Venus TRINE Neptune 6*

"A person in the past wounded him." Are you talking about this lifetime or another past lifeline?

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Cynnared
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posted August 01, 2009 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
Oh MY! Judging by where his planets are he was born March of 1971.....around the 24th or something like that. I was born in April of 71 and some of my energies are about similar.

Aries does live in the moment. If he has Venus SQU Neptune/Jupiter then indulging is one of the things a person with that aspect partakes in. With Venus in that aspect.....he may be in love with love and may show a side of who he isn't.....kind of acts in a relationship....

Sun opposite Uranus is a sign of the non committal one for sure and it's hard to get a person with that aspect to even settle down. (I have this square my mars in Cappy and I can take or leave a relationship. I have no problem being single and quite enjoyed it. Though I'm in a secure and stable relationship now)...

I'm gonna post later and see what else I can come up with......My planets are close to his so I can easily figure out what makes him tick.....

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StelliumH6
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posted August 01, 2009 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message
Wonderful Cyn! He was born at the very end of Aries cusp in Apr. 1971.

However, his Venus TRINES Neptune/Jupiter. Sun OPPOSE Uranus is not an aspect he has in his natal.

Curious to know more. Especially from a female version of him!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted August 01, 2009 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Stellium

I'm sure he's been wounded in THIS life. I wasn't refer to past ones per se (though I wouldn't discount that).

Plus, I dunno, I have a theory about the 8th house which not everyone would agree on, BUT I've read somewhere (and it makes sense to me) that the 8th is the consummation of the 7th, meaning it's like what happens next, the steps a while *after* you love/form partnership, how you express that 7th house relating. With that being Pluto (opposing Venus), methinks he probably is well-aware on some level that he would be highly transformed on a really core level when he gets involved... which is (maybe? probably?) why he avoids it.

Also, I think the 8th is kind of how we do 'endings'... endings in all big things (dealing with death of all sorts, maybe).
For instance, I have Sagittarius on my 8th, and my Jupiter is the apex of a Mars/Venus opposition to boot lol. That means endings are very swift, even easy for me. I don't hold on once I've decided to let it go, I tend to just philosophize the whole experience, and even at times relocate/pack up and move to another city/state/continent ... and later remain on friendly terms, for the most part, with exes.

See, I feel with Pluto on his 8th he won't do breakups well at all. He'll hold on, even despite wanting to, aggressively, and have a hell of a time moving on, even trying to integrate the experience. So I think he knows this... and I'm betting it's happened, but maybe he's only had it happen probably like once, twice at the most, because I don't think Pluto, when it's misunderstood, knows how to deal with its own wounds. The wound festers, and doesn't heal cleanly, just like I don't think he has 100% .

But I'm more just going by my gut here

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StelliumH6
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posted August 01, 2009 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message
He wants someone who can intrigue him. He is the real MYSTERY!

It seems as though after reading the thread that he is kind of torn-up inside.

His heart wants to believe true love can happen, but he's scared this person/relationship is going to change him/his life around. Consequently he will stay in another committment, and not leave.

It's sad to remain in a place that does not fulfill what your soul needs.

Can I help him?

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Cynnared
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posted August 03, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmmmm, I don't have the Venus opposite Pluto aspect in my chart......But ANY venus in Pisces wants to believe true love happens....I figure with a pluto contact to venus they can be a bit obsessive.

I don't think he has the T square in his chart as I do mine - which is good. It would make a man very hard to catch.

MVM is right on the mark. There is nothing else I could add or even put down...


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