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bopbop
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posted July 31, 2009 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
I thought I'd be neat to post synastry chart for your longest (non-family obligated) relationships. What do you think is significant in the synastry that speaks for the longevity? Personally, I've moved around so much I don't keep in touch with many people, so for me, a relationship that has lasted 9 years despite frequent turbulence/distance is unusual. So post charts that are by your definition, unusually long lasting!

Mine:

The first thing I looked at was Saturn, because that's what I'm told reveals staying power... and found that there wasn't much actually going on there. But I looked closer, and his Saturn is in my 7th house, and my Sun is in his 7th house conjunct his Part of Fortune. Could that be it? Also, our moons fall in each other's 1st houses. Our feelings/security are wrapped up in each other's identities. The Sun in the composite chart is in the 7th house as well, with moon opposite in the 1st house.

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amowls*
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posted July 31, 2009 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Hows Saturn in the Composite?

In the Composite of my parent's relationship, Saturn is tightly conjunct the MC. Probably why they've lasted so long despite hating each other.

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winter
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posted July 31, 2009 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
This is the synastry for a 7+ year relationship. I did not check the ‘aspect lines to all’ box as it cluttered the chart too much.

When things are going good they are very good but when it’s bad, oh boy, the gloves are off.

I’m in my 40’s, he’s in his 30’s and this is the first relationship for both of us where there has been a complete 100% trust on both sides. It’s not something we had to ‘earn’ it was just there from day one and it never ever falters regardless of the ups and downs.

For me it was “I want you” at first sight, he, on the other hand took a while to come around! Unfortunately these days we rarely seem to want the same thing at the same time.

Why we stick together is probably:
Our chart rulers Mars and Saturn are conjunct. These two planets have a nasty reputation in synastry but ironically seem to be prevalent in many long term relationships.
Our DC rulers are in opposition.
We have a nodal reversal
My Moon exactly opposes his Sun/Moon midpoint.
His Sun exactly opposes my Sun/Moon midpoint.

My Sun and my Venus/Uranus turn two of his T-squares into Grand Crosses. That probably explains the bad side.

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bopbop
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posted July 31, 2009 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
Winter, you also have a Sun/7th house thing going. Also I notice in both of ours a lack of strong pluto aspects. This could mean there is a lack of do or die that can cause people to separate?

In the composite of mine, Mars and Saturn are conjunct. I've read this can give a very strong will to get something done together, but not necessarily romantically. It's not restricted if the energy can be focused by Saturn instead.

With another good friend I have my Saturn conjunct his Mars in Sagittarius in my 6th and his 8th. We were roommates, and as long as I directed him, he really enjoyed working around the house... almost like a little kid bribed into doing his chores.

I'd say, "If you do the dishes we can watch Justice League tonight." And he'd respond, "OKAY! *clean clean clean* JUSTICE LEAGUE! Yay!" Things like that, all the time... I always made sure he took care of his responsibilities (including money management) and he appreciated the structure and companionship (our moons both in Capricorn). This relationship also lacks Pluto... and is shaping up to be a long term one. Does your guy have that same sort of affect on you, winter?

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amowls*
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posted July 31, 2009 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
My boyfriend's Saturn conjuncts my Mars exactly and often times I find him insufferable. He acts like he's my parent and it's super annoying. He even joins in when my mom nags me or berates me about something.

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winter
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posted July 31, 2009 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
Jeez, I wish he was that affable. He’s a double Cap. Look up “My Way Or The Highway” in the dictionary and his photo will be there.

Its not too clear in the chart but my Pluto does oppose his Venus and I must say the best description of that aspect in synastry if I remember correctly came from MVM here on LL:
I really do love you but I just want to hurt you.

We could be the poster children for that definition.

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Antiquarianbookcollector
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posted July 31, 2009 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Winter, this might sound really dumb, but what exactly is a nodal reversal? I'm trying to learn to read charts and I didn't hear much about that... What would that indicate? Thanks!

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bopbop
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posted July 31, 2009 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
amowls, that sounds annoying alright.. How do you deal with unwarranted Saturn? I just keep thinking brick wall.

winter, overall your relationship is good right? cause that sounds... not so good.

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 31, 2009 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Synastry between my wife and I. We have known each other since 1995 and have been together since 2001. Its lasted a LOT longer than it should have.


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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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winter
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posted July 31, 2009 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
Antiquarianbookcollector, a nodal reversal is where my NN conjunct his SN, therefore his NN conjunct my SN. Supposedly karmic but then so much these days seems to be.

Best description I’ve heard for this in synastry is both parties are too busy teaching each other lessons. I tend to agree.

Bopbop, for the most part it is great, having someone that you have never doubted their loyalty is a wonderful thing in life to have. These days, we are not getting along so good so no doubt that is why I’m sounding jaded.

That transiting Nep/Jup/Chi is presently doing a number on his moon and my mars and we are both behaving unkindly to each other but when things are good they are great.

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winter
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posted July 31, 2009 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
Got Gemini, I’m curious about her Sat conjunct your Asc and her Mars conjunct your DC. That to me seems like crazy glue (lifelong contact) but may I ask if it causes arguments?

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 31, 2009 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
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Got Gemini, I’m curious about her Sat conjunct your Asc and her Mars conjunct your DC. That to me seems like crazy glue (lifelong contact) but may I ask if it causes arguments?

H3LL YES!!!!!! I don't like anyone's Saturn on my Asc. I don't feel like I can be myself and I feel VERY restricted.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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belgz
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posted August 01, 2009 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Me and my boyfriend ferdi.. Weve been together on/off 10 yrs in march but we are always friends and can never be apart for too long, we claim were wrong for each other but we cant be without each other either!

In our early years he was so boring but always the type i wanted to marry, and he was madly in love with me, then time progressed and i wanted to settle down but he became sttubborn and started to see flaws in the relationship.

Then more years progressed we argued over politics and religion and then he got over his stupid obsession with che guavara. We are like family we will never seperate in this life time even if we marry others. We see each other as the ideal and perfect mother/father figure or husband wife but our families dont want us together and he will never leave his family so im off in my own world always trying to heal myself and get away from him. Our relationship is alive because of our crazy sex life.

The only nice aspect we have is an exact trine of our moons.


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Anicia
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posted August 01, 2009 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anicia     Edit/Delete Message
I've been looking for the right time to post my parent's synastry. They've been together since they were 14 so going on 38 years now. They're still very much in love and still hate being away from each other.

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Got Gemini?
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posted August 01, 2009 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I just noticed that the composite node is conjunct my wife's natal moon and the composite moon is conjunct my natal node. I don't know if it means anything.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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bopbop
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posted August 01, 2009 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
"H3LL YES!!!!!! I don't like anyone's Saturn on my Asc. I don't feel like I can be myself and I feel VERY restricted."

I was going to ask about that, too. I just met someone recently whose Saturn and Uranus are conjunct my Ascendant and also square my venus. It was very odd, because immediately I felt very self-conscious around them like I was being scrutinized although I couldn't pinpoint why I felt that way... I wonder how that dynamic will grow in the future. The composite Saturn is conjunct my Venus, too. Sometimes its been good, because it makes me more aware of myself, as long as it doesn't beat down my self esteem to much (which he's already made me feel like crap a couple times though I don't think it was on purpose )

I'd say the moon node thing is pretty significant. At least with the comp. node conjunct her moon maybe the purpose of the relationship fulfilled her emotional needs.

Anicia, wow its interesting to see the synastry of a couple who have been together so long! Though I've noticed a lot of older couples tend to stay together more than younger ones... a difference in cultural attitudes about marriage. I find that vertex conjunct venus/IC neat... childhood soulmates? Interesting that they have Pluto opp. Venus and unaspected Sun.

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Lonake
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posted August 01, 2009 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Anicia I was wondering about that too, how do you see the unaspected sun playing out? is the virgo sun partner the more passive one, or anything along those lines, obviously they're not unnoticed, just throwing things out there really..

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bopbop
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posted August 01, 2009 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
I think something that could play into it is the Virgo's sun is in the 2nd house along with many other planets, and the other person has a Taurus ascendant. That could be very attractive to the Virgo, like the Taurus in the other expresses attitudes that go right along with what Virgo wants out of life and puts a lot of energy into. Though that is interesting... it could be a "behind the scenes" thing... especially with the other being a Aries sun conjunct Virgo's MC.

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Anicia
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posted August 01, 2009 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anicia     Edit/Delete Message
Dad = Virgo
Mom = Aries

My mom can be very dramatic, and impulsive. So I'd definitely say dad is the more passive one. He kind of just let's her be, but talks her out of things he feels necessary.

My mom's apparently always been good motivation for my dad. She pushes him to keep going when he gets into one of his moods or is feeling cynical.

I actually think they balance each other out quite well.

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glamgem25
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posted August 01, 2009 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
I have ASC conjunct SATURN with someone me being the ASC and I've never felt more beautiful or myself around that person!!

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Got Gemini?
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posted August 01, 2009 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I have ASC conjunct SATURN with someone me being the ASC and I've never felt more beautiful or myself around that person!!

I think the squares in our synastry paint things negatively.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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belgz
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posted August 02, 2009 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Hey both your 5th house rulers are conjunct the moon. You guys have children together right? And do they have a cancer or moon influence?

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•' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • Life is Beautiful •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ •

•Sun• Cancer
•Moon• Gemini
•Mars• Cancer
•Mercury• Cancer
•Venus• Leo

•••Virgo Rising•••

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bopbop
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posted August 02, 2009 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
glamgem, what other aspects do you have and what is your ascendant? I think the square to venus at the same time might makes it awkward for me.

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Got Gemini?
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posted August 02, 2009 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz, I dunno if you were responding to me but yes, both my kids are triple Cancers. My son has Libra Asc, Cancer Sun, Mercury, and Venus with Scorpio Moon. My daughter is Gemini Asc, Cancer Sun, Mercury, and Venus with Taurus Moon.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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