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comica23
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posted August 03, 2009 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Usually, for the people I know, I can look at their charts and see their traits translated in there. But due to some personal reasons, I can't seem to understand this person nor his birth chart. ^_^; Can someone lend me a help please?

Thank You~!

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EighthMoon
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posted August 03, 2009 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I can see why he seems to be elusive or hard to figure out.

To begin, his chart ruler is hiding out in the 12th.

His Mercury is also there forming a T Square with Jupiter in Cancer in the 9th and Saturn/Neptune in Cap in the 3rd. It seems to me that those aspects could mask a person's thoughts, communications, and also the "vibe" they put out. Maybe one of those people that leave you wondering what they meant by that comment or what on earth they are thinking about. These also form a trine/sextile with his Sun. So, it seems like he'd be an enigma in general...no?

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amowls*
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posted August 03, 2009 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Communication difficulties, probably. Mercury is at the apex of a tsquare with Saturn/Neptune and Jupiter, focusing on the 12th, 3rd and 9th houses. Moon and Mars are conjunct but not integrated into the rest of the chart. He gets frustrated easily (?).

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Unmoved
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posted August 03, 2009 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there

To add to 8th's interp:

I have Mercury in 12th
My chart Ruler is in 12th
My Sun is in 11th( Virgo)
My Ruler of 10th is the Moon
The Ruler (SUN)of my 11th is in it's own house
The Ruler (MERC) of the 12th is in it's own house

What does that mean?

Mercury in 12th to me makes it very difficult to volunteer information. I am secretive, and not much about my own life, but about what I know in general. I'll seem ignorant most of the time because I want to know what people know than to share what I know. This makes it frustrating for people to know me as well as people would like. So, this guy knows more than he is letting up. I call this the acting dumb placement.

Chart Ruler in 12th, and mine being Pluto, makes more intense, more than I express. It is a constant effort to control how much I put out before to prevent freaking people out. His Venus being there could mean that he censors himself at expressing Venus traits, i.e extravagance, and may down play his beauty also, if he even pays attention to it. He is also probably paranoid about Venus related things.

Sun in 11th is like the opposite of all the secrecy and so he is quite a paradox as he seems like a people's person naturally, but then those 12th house vibes makes people unsure. He values friendships and is a humanitarian at heart, i.e. he cares about humanity and would probably like to contribute to its betterment somehow in a practical way.

The Moon ruled 10th house assists his humanitarian inclination because this makes him even more connected to the collective consciousness, making not only want to contribute, but to also empathize with people in general. The ruler of 10th in 11th just adds that value of friendship and camaraderie to this person's life. He really believes that through organizations coming together, the world can be a better place, so there is an optimism with him, which often gets shrouded by his 12th house activity though. The 10th house Ruler being in 11th just makes his friends assets in his life, people who benefit his career, so he might know influential or powerful people.

So, you can't tell whether he is cynical or positive because he probably jumps from one to another often. He's also got that absent-minded professor thing where he gets distracted by ideas or activities, to neglect mundane things. If he remembers people's birthdays I would be very surprised. He is very futuristic, and is inclined to innovative lifestyles or ideas, and quite eccentric.

Ruler of 11th in his own house tells us that he is generally sympathetic and joyful. In Virgo is expressed by being of service to friends and making oneself indispensable.

Ruler of 12th in 12th means, especially since it's Mercury, means that he will triumph and beat the challenges of his early life, so this battle that he is going to win requires a lot of thinking, awareness of thought patterns, and such... his battle is not of the world, but with himself, to break conditioning of the mind to liberate him to the level and quality of life he desires. Yes, he's a thinker.

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comica23
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posted August 03, 2009 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you everyone for your replies! X3

Well, what can I say.. This person is definitely a thinker. He values logic and structure (in the Virgo and Capricorn ways), and he's also into humanity/philosophy stuffs. Also, he likes to feel needed by a group in which he can belong to, and in which he shares compatible ideals and does things he likes to do.
But, funny is, with all these traits (specially Virgo/Capricorn ones), he's often more into putting others into his service (small favors) rather than solving things by his own.
He is quite Libran, that he can be charming and friendly/fun to socialize with (thought he can be shy), and he also cares a lot about his own image. On the other hand, he's kinda short-tempered and doesn't hesitate to fight back, which can make him hard to deal with sometimes (he's quite Arian with others). There also seem to be some misunderstandings when it comes to communication.
But one of the main problems would be his over self-righteousness (thinks that he knows much more than others and that he's right most of the time). And he's very critical with other people's flaws, that he often wouldn't really have compassion/understanding for flaws, even thought some of them are just human or not even relevant.

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amowls*
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posted August 03, 2009 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
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And he's very critical with other people's flaws, that he often wouldn't really have compassion/understanding for flaws, even thought some of them are just human or not even relevant.

Every person with a Virgo Moon I know has been this way (and I know A LOT of them). Even if it's hypocritical. And his Moon conjunct Mars might make it extra antagonistic.

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