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Topic: rough around the edges - personality
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emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 02:25 PM
i know a person, she is incredibly sweet but sometimes i feel she has too many boundaries...do you know any such person, who are very nice, but hv too many dos and donts...like they have too many boundaries...i will post her chart v smart, adorable, person, but v particular abt her slef boundaries (and maybe rough around the edges does not reflect wht i am talking abt her...but i think the boundary around these ppl is not smooth....on some areas they are kool and open, then on the second issue the boundary contracts and they become v reserved...so its like a boundary with lots of changes) IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2619 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 03:40 PM
She probably has a strong saturn. Maybe sat conjunct AC. IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 03:58 PM
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Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 03:58 PM
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amowls* Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted August 03, 2009 04:03 PM
Don't we all have boundaries? Like, I don't like being bothered when I just get home. I go straight to my room and shut the door. Other than that, I enjoy company. And as for personal rules, I don't really have any. I'm usually up for trying anything for the experience. I'm not exactly WILD but I don't say "Oh, I would NEVER do x, y, z." I have Saturn conjunct Uranus, opposite ASC, square Venus. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 04:29 PM
I gotta agree with Amowls here... and I think it's a little vague what you mean by boundaries. If it's someone who's hard to get close to, then it could be Saturn, but also I've noticed that it could also be Pluto or Uranus too. For instance, my own 12th house Moon makes me need to refuel and absolutely NEEDS solitude after a dose of socializing or just being in a crowded place. As open and bubbly as I can be, I also have a very definite boundary of too close for comfort, and I've had several people point it out. Moon oppose Uranus might contribute. And I do have Capricorn MC... hmmm.... When I was younger it was more stark and noticeable because I didn't know how to integrate the boundaries so it came off as abrupt and I seemed to be 'closed'. But i think sometimes the older you get and grow more comfortable in your own skin, you begin to integrate the boundary thing. IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 04:44 PM
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emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 05:52 PM
well i agree, e one has boundaries,(i need lot of space too, but then i am comfortable trusting few ppl) it becomes issue when u are good freinds and u feel suddenly steping over smthng u didnt realize was there....basically, u wont feel that this person is easy gng..she is sweet but v complex here is her chart
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 8704 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 06:09 PM
is this something similar to rules of behavior regarding interacting with her, proper vs. improper? jupiter is highly principled but my first thought like others was in fact saturnIP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 254 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 06:15 PM
Venus conjunct Uranus in Scorp and Saturn conjunct Moon in Virgo looks pretty boundary driven to me...IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 06:18 PM
She has everything in the lower hemisphere (from our perspective), this suggests that she doesn't have a pressing need for other people, self sufficient & inward focus. Venus Conj Uranus - Independence or erratic friendships, can seem aloof. Sun conj Mars - self motivated. Moon conj Saturn - can feel comfortable with boundaries, this is reinforced by 2nd house (Taurus signature = self sufficiency) Boundaries indded. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 06:24 PM
I agree with bopbop... that Moon/Saturn combo can be hard to get to know. I was married to someone with a Moon/Saturn (Gemini) conjunction and he was exceedingly self-protective, even though he was all charismatic and 'sweet' on the outside. And she's got it in Virgo, so that would definitely make it more vigilant I think.Also, just from experience, I know the Saturn/Mercury square can make one think and rethink what they want to say. She's not always going to voice what's on her mind, which might not be such a bad thing with a Mercury Sagittarius .... OK, I kid But I do know the combo in general tends to make a person curb what they want to say, make them pause, so that even if they seem chatty and open, they are STILL filtering their thoughts behind a screen of some sort (I know I do this). Also, her chart is pretty much at the bottom half, and I think a lot of times when a person has a chart 'below the horizon' they tend to be more private, more turned inward. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2619 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 06:31 PM
Moon square neptune also points to this. IP: Logged |
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 06:36 PM
wao .... @lonake yes v uptight abt proper behavior @deliverance...yes v self-sufficient but v needy of her own family...v protective and giving for her family... @MVM yes v v discrete abt wht to say@diana...yes v neptunian ...looks aloof but v compassionate and sweet....she looks way tougher than she is IP: Logged |
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posted August 03, 2009 07:17 PM
All of her planets are in the lower half of her chart. She's an introvert.IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1229 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted August 04, 2009 03:10 AM
Is she like this with everyone, or is it just your experience? Perhaps her Saturn is making hard aspects to your chart.I had a friend/colleague with a 29 degree Sag Sun, Cap moon, and Cancer Asc. From appearances she would seem like the person with a lot of boundaries. But I generally get on very well with Sagittarius, and she was born on the 21 (ruled by Jupiter in Numerology), double plus. One of my better working relationships. Never gave me reason to secretly not like her. In my experience it has been Capricorn, Virgo, and Libras, with the most no-go areas. IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21 Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2009 03:56 AM
I knew a girl somewhat like this. she was a little worse. like cool sometimes but then completely freak out over some stupid stuff. like with her room she was so anal about the way it had to be. I cant stand control freaks. they just need to let go.. and understand its not the end of the world and start caring about what really matters. this person had saturn conjunct the ascendant though in capricorn with neptune and uranus also conjunct from the 12th. IP: Logged |
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2009 11:33 AM
@ Nine ..she is overall v boundry-person with othersi think as other ppl said the saturn connection and all planets in lower half issue IP: Logged |
evander Knowflake Posts: 171 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2009 11:40 AM
quote: I knew a girl somewhat like this. she was a little worse. like cool sometimes but then completely freak out over some stupid stuff. like with her room she was so anal about the way it had to be. I cant stand control freaks. they just need to let go.. and understand its not the end of the world and start caring about what really matters. this person had saturn conjunct the ascendant though in capricorn with neptune and uranus also conjunct from the 12th.
I don't think that's what triggered all the boundaries, being from a generation that has saturn uranus and neptune conjunct I've seen quite a few. this girl is the most anal of all the people I know: here's some of the typical things she does: *doesn't ever drink anything but boubly water in a public place *carries alcohol wipes and uses them hourly *makes a list of things to do and doing them exactly in that order *alphabetizes everything from mp3s on the pc to books on the shelf etc. there's more it's just more specific private stuff IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner unregistered
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posted August 04, 2009 11:57 AM
so what. live and let live.rough around the edges is not exactly the same thing to me as a private orderly person with well defined boundries. i would call ar ough around the edges person someone crass or obnoxious and publically opinionated or course language in inappropriate times. i mean why do you care if she likes having lists or drinking only water in public? why would that affect you?
everyone finds certain things offensive for sure, but i dont get that one. public drunkeness, obscene in public, or embarrasing domestic disputes in public, that i can see not liking.... but i don't see why introverts who like order or certain things bother you....how is that even effecting you? it's thier life. i dont get how some people can buy expensive stuff or go on expensive vacations and not pay thier bills and get shut off notices, but it doesn't bother me, because it doesn't effect me... maybe what you see is "the important things" in life and what she see's as the "important things" in life are not the same. and that is ok. doesn't make either one wrong, you just each have your own life to live. now....back to my list....
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evander Knowflake Posts: 171 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2009 12:13 PM
That was a close friend of mine all through high school (still would be if our shedules didn't clash so much) ^ and I don't mind it at all. I never said I wasn't weird too (in an entirely different way though) It's just interesting to observe. The boundaries, the control, the eccentricities. ------------------ if you want to see my chart paste: i41.tinypic.com/29z8u2w.gif in the adress bar of your internet browser IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner unregistered
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posted August 04, 2009 12:24 PM
have you ever seen the show obsessed?i can't watch it anymore because it actually makes me ill. there are so many obseessions now. **pull your hair out one at a time until you are bald ***pull up carpets and flooring because you are afraid the floor will cave in and you will die ***can't chew food, so use feeding tube instead i mean people are eccentric sure, but sometimes turns obseessive and like an alcoholic it affects thier lives and thier families lives/ it is way sad.
it seems like society overall is more stressed, more anxiety ridden than ever to the point it effects certain people to the point of these obsessions that you never saw 25 years ago. i wonder why? i really wonder why... but people that make lists don't bother me, as we are usually the ones who have a band aid ready for the spur of the moment boo-boo.
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evander Knowflake Posts: 171 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2009 03:28 PM
the society evolves and pressures different aspects of people's lives. those who are unlucky enough to already have "thin" tolerance on those aspects end up with these disorders. A friend of a friend has trichotillomania(the hair pulling thing) .. in her case the breaking thing is inability to stand up to extensive parental pressure. Also refusing to see a therapist about it... Never seen obsessed. OCDs were never my sphere of interest psychology wise because in my understanding they can be regulated with behavioral therapy It really scares me that it takes just a straw to go from eccentric to obsessed. IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21 Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 05, 2009 04:21 AM
evander i agree its a generational influence.. its why Im glad I was born when saturn and uranus were still in sag. when i break it all down and find out what I really want and empathize with its more sagitarian. I dont know what I would do if I had that stellium in capricorn. besides the point. the case I was talking about has alot of problems besides being control freak about things. shes a giant walking contradiction with major deep seeded issues. but I wish the best for her and try to be there for her.IP: Logged |
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 05, 2009 04:36 PM
she is v smart too, maybe jupiter at the asc, trining mercury and MC in gemini is the reasonIP: Logged |