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Topic: Afflicted Pisces Moon baby
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Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 06:01 AM
The doctor decided it's time to pull the plug and I have to get induced. It will happen within the next 36 hours...They say it's supposed to be today and the labor and delivery ward is extremely busy that they won't possibly get me in till tomorrow.I looked at the transits and the moon will be badly afflicted in Pisces...will that mean I'll be a horrible mom? I wanted a good moon for her and may end up with a bad moon spot. Moon conj Uranus, square mars, opposite Saturn.... I am feeling quite emotional about things at the moment and can't sleep. cyn IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 254 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 08:10 AM
dont turn up on the day and go the next day. Isnt it your choice. WHats the rush? Better than an aries moon lol Moon conj uranus just might take the soppiness out of pisces moon (no offence) and square moon isnt that bad depending on the ruler. Whats ur 3 placements ------------------ •' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • Life is Beautiful •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ • •Sun• Cancer •Moon• Gemini •Mars• Cancer •Mercury• Cancer •Venus• Leo •••Virgo Rising••• IP: Logged |
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 10:43 AM
Moon conj Uranus, square mars, opposite Saturn....An Aries moon works.I'm an Aries, my partner has an Aries moon... IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 1155 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 10:45 AM
cynn no transits or aspects can make you a bad mom. just for reassurance sake i am a pisces moon in a t-sq with saturn/merc and chiron...TRINE uranus. try to remember that EVERYone comes in with issues! and if you are being induced you have more say over when it will be, but even induced babies can take a long time!are you overdue? i thought you were looking at this date for some time now...? maybe you should plump for a taurus moon if you are really worried bout all this. induced babies often end up being cesareans, you know, in which case you would have even more control over the timing if that is really important to you! i don't recommend c-sections but maybe you should discuss the possibilities of that outcome and picking the time according to YOUR wishes not the hospital's? too much aries energy in a family can be disruptive, y'know...but if you opt for the aries moon remember it may have other transits that are even more difficult. for instance an early aries moon would be square pluto. i'd rather saturn or mars any day! that said, my daughter has leo moon sq sat/pluto AND venus in a t-sq. she has her issues for sure, but like i said, who doesn't? i don't think her moon describes my mothering very much, though it fairly well describes my situation when she was born... IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 289 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 10:59 AM
the moon isn't how the mother actually was, it's the child's experience of the mother overall, early childhood, and how the child will nurture themselves and others, etc. you can't change how your child will experience you, it's not under your control. all you can do is try your best. in the end as an adult the child will view you however they please. it's about what they choose to perceive per psychological tendencies/inner work.IP: Logged |
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 11:05 AM
Katatonic,I'm being induced due to high blood pressure and the placenta may not be working properly cause the baby's belly's is small. So the induction is due to medical reasons. Here there is no choice when I come in because the maternity ward is full and THEY will call when they have room and can take me. They do not schedule times for people to come in because their reasoning is what happens if they get and Emergency C section etc. (This is the Canadian health system). From what I have heard about C sections, I won't want one. The women that I have talked to that have had them thought it was sheer hell afterwards and extremely painful. A mid Aries moon would be nice..... c'est la vie I have no control over anything....I just hate the chart.... Though another view is this her sun will trine mine Her moon will trine mine Her Venus will trine mine AND Her Saturn will trine mine Mercury was trining mercury but that has gone out of orb so her mercury will trine my mars IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 916 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 11:31 AM
As a person who was born 1 month early after a 23 hour labor (would have been longer if I wasn't induced after I fell asleep during labor...that's what my mom told me), I believe that babies seem to come into the world on their own accord and not anybody else's. I could have been born Sun in Sagittarius. If there was no long labor, I would have been born with an Aquarius Moon. However it seemed that I was meant to have Pisces Moon like my father and my maternal grandfather to learn the lessons of Pisces like them. My Moon is quite challenged too..with square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittariusin 3rd. That's just including the regular planets. However, my Moon trines Sun in Scorpio. My Sun,Moon,Midheaven,Ascendant are strongly connected to transneptunians as well as transneptunian nodes. any ways.....I feel that everything happens for a reason. I wouldn't be concerned about when the baby will likely be born nor even expect when he/she will be born. there is a mention of stuff about better not to have Moon square Pluto. If I remember right, I looked at your chart, and you were strong in transneptunian energy other than Pluto.
therefore, I feel that it's relevant to mention the transneptunian positions so you will know what the Moon will aspect. if Pluto is a very small object,and it's viewed as being more powerful than the largest planet,Jupiter when it was thought/still thought of Pluto as a planet. Pluto's smaller fellow transneptunians could even be more powerful. Of course, there is one that is larger than Pluto. That's Eris. Makemake and Haumea which are smaller are very close to being Pluto's size. Haumea was actually large as Pluto, but it suffered a collision that took big chunks of ice off its body. That's why it spins so rapidly (5 hour rotation) and is elongated. I only use 3 degree orb for the large transneptunians which are either dwarf planet/plutoids or dwarf planet/plutoid candidates. That's for conjunction,opposition,trine,square 2 degree orb for a sextile 1 degree for quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate these are the present positions of the large transneptunians
I am listing the largest ones first Eris in 21'59 Aries R Pluto in 0'57 Capricorn R Makemake in 24'22 Virgo Haumea in 14'44 Libra Sedna in 21'56 Taurus Orcus in 0'09 Virgo Quaoar in 18'20 Sagittarius R Varuna in 20'54 Cancer Ixion in 13'47 Sagittarius R a mid Aries Moon would be in opposition to Haumea and trine Ixion.
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/ Philip Sedgwick said that transneptunians are intensified evolutionary objects. So people with strong transneptunian charts have intensified evolutionary lessons if learned will help them advance spiritually.
Right Ascension and Declinations (even declination longitude equivalents) are also coordinates to consider when looking at aspects. They are very significant.
Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.
In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 916 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 12:13 PM
Here is a list of the heliocentric transneptunians nodesNodes are "Any pair of points marking the intersection of two planetary orbits, especially the orbit of the Earth (that is, the Ecliptic) and that of another planet or the Moon. Nodes are four-dimensional aspects. They express the range of all possible positions of two planets over time rather than relating their momentary position, as do ordinary aspects. http://www.astrologycosmobiology.com.au/planetary_nodes.html it is said that an aspect to the node of an object is more significant than an aspect to the object itself. Heliocentric nodes of objects move up to 1 degree per century,and so they move as slowly as fixed stars. They are collective energies. A person with personal planet,luminary,angle in aspect(especially conjunction,opposition) to the heliocentric node of an object will be strongly connected to the collective matters in regards to the object. This is especially so for Sun conjunct/oppose a heliocentric node of an object because it's the same as Earth oppose/conjunct a heliocentric node of an object in a heliocentric chart. Earth is always in exact opposition to the Sun. Eris Nodes in 6'07 Taurus/Scorpio Pluto Nodes in 20'28 Cancer/Capricorn Makemake Nodes in 19'39 Gemini/Sagittarius Haumea Nodes in 2'14 Leo/Aquarius Sedna Nodes in 24'33 Leo/Aquarius Orcus Nodes in 28'49 Sagittarius/Gemini Quaoar Nodes in 9'07 Libra/Aries Varuna Nodes in 7'27 Cancer/Capricorn Ixion Nodes in 11'10 Gemini/Sagittarius transits,progressed,solar arc planets,angles in aspect to the natal heliocentric nodes are relevant.
but synastry connections indicate a connection,association involving the collective and have no personal meaning. Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 1155 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 01:07 PM
i have to agree with glaucus, babies tend to be born at the perfect moment for THEIR agenda! mine was 10 days late according to the doctors, my waters broke and they induced me and she ended up being a cesarean - all of which put her in beautiful relationship astrologically to both her cancer father and leo mother.its true cesareans are no fun. but they are a lot better than dead or damaged babies! mine came out perfect despite my feeling betrayed by the maternity people, and i healed slower than a lot of "normal" births but just as surely. try not to stress about the astrology. relax and enjoy your new child! from what i can tell you are a BRILLIANT mother, all best wishes to you cynn! IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 910 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 01:25 PM
c-sections aren't so bad. just a bit of a slower recovery!!!i had 2. i have 3 kids and don't know what a labor pain feels like! best of luck cynn!!! you will be a WONDERFUL mother!! you already love her like crazy! IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 177 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 02:28 PM
You're going to have a beautiful, precious baby. Concentrate on that and trust fate. IP: Logged | |