posted August 09, 2009 11:49 PM         

Just found it and wondered where it was by transit when a relationship you were in ended.

I'll post mine tomorrow because I can't keep my eyes open right now.

posted August 10, 2009 12:58 AM         

Split is also one of the oldest cities in the area, and is traditionally considered just over 1,700 years old. However, recent archaeological research relating to the ancient Greek colony of Aspálathos (6th century BC) establishes the city as being several hundred years older.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_(city)

shrugs

Maybe some people in the city,Split might be offended for using the asteroid to mean breakups because then that give the impression that the city is negative and so they are.

the use of certain asteroids are tricky,and so ..umm.....there could be times where you might feel that you can relate to a certain asteroid and that happens to figure prominently in your chart and works with transits, but you have to keep all that to yourself to avoid offending others that might take the use of the asteroid personally even though there is no malice behind the intention of how you use the asteroid.

I was going to answer the post and give my Split positions during my relationship breakup, but I decided not to. You never know that the asteroid actually is named after a certain place and person.

sure enough, Split happens to be a name of a city in Croatia.

therefore, I am not using that asteroid for breakups. There can be other asteroids used for that. Some use the asteroid,humptydumpty.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 10, 2009 03:04 AM         

Exactly!

I made that point in another thread.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 10, 2009 03:59 AM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 10, 2009 05:36 PM         

synchronicity and relativity imho

I think that's the same with planets

astronomers didn't name the outerplanets for us to use in astrology. They don't believe in Astrology. However,Astrologers worked the outerplanets in their astrological systems and came up with meaning,keywords,intepretations for them

the same with centaurs (like Chiron),asteroids (like Ceres),transneptunians (like Pluto)

the planets in a person's chart don't function the same way in another person's chart....even if they have the same aspects,houses.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 11, 2009 04:45 AM         

I absolutely agree with synchronicity and relativity regarding the planets..

But wouldn't we also need consistency to make astrology work for us? For example, I could be looking at Valentine in someone's chart. When I am interpreting that, I will use Valentine as most people would (regarding love, etc) ... So, what if that person relates Valentine to maybe the name of their first pet, or the first street they lived on? (and we weren't aware of this) ... would that mean that our interpretation of Valentine in their chart is completely off kilter?

posted August 11, 2009 04:55 AM         

but

Pluto is also the name of Mickey Mouse's dog.

of course, Pluto was named after the Roman God Ruler of the Underworld.

Mickey Mouse's dog was named in honor of the planet.

there is a professional tennis player whose first name is Venus.
Venus Williams

Neptune City is a city in New Jersey

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 11, 2009 11:30 PM         

When I broke up with my fiance earlier this year: transiting Split was conjunct my descendant. That one makes sense.

posted August 11, 2009 11:34 PM         

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 11, 2009 11:47 PM         

I thought that maybe the asteroid is in a hard aspect to my Sun which would reflect how my father split on me.

well...guess what

My Split is in 5'18 Aquarius in 5th
square my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
square my Scotti in 5'23 Scorpio in 2nd
square my Ariadne in 5'03 Scorpio in 2nd
trine my retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th

so Sun square Split with only 2 minutes of arc, square my Scotti with only 4 minutes of arc, and square my Ariadne with only 14 minutes of arc, and trine my Saturn with 10 minutes of arc

so my hunch was accurate!

Scott was my father's last name which my mom didn't give me.

I read that Ariadne was about abandonment issues. The asteroid is named after the Cretan Princess that aided Theseus in killing the Minotaur. Theseus abandoned her on some island, and Dionysus,God of Wine married her.

using noon time,
my father's Split is in 13'48 Aquarius conjunct my Vertex in 14'58 Aquarius in 5th!

Keep finding stuff like this keeps supporting my belief/practice of Name Asteroid Astrology since 2000.

it also makes me wonder how much free will do we actually have. it just seems like my father was never meant to stick around,and so I never really had a chance of having a relationship with him.

nobody can make me change my mind on this stuff!

also

I checked the asteroid, Soulie in my chart

0'47 Aquarius in 5th
trine Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 1st
sextile Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd
quintile Mercury - '27

I also had a hunch that it aspected my Sun in regards to the father. My father was very spiritual, a Christian baptist and was highly superstitious,believing in the supernatural,especially New Orleans Voodoo (He was born in New Orleans,Louisiana...grew up in Lake Charles,Louisiana....He had Moon in Pisces disposited by a stationary retrograde Neptune in Virgo which I reflected also his drug problems and his neurodivergence), but I also thought about how some refer to black/African American oriented things as "soul" like soul music or or soul food. My father was black/African American. Actually a Black Creole (combination of Black,French,Native American...predominantly Black..he had medium to dark brown skin) Actually, I don't like to refer to black/African American anything as "soul" because I believe that all of us have souls. However, I was curious about the asteroid and had a hunch that it does aspect my Sun.

well in the declinations

Soulie in 13'17 South
Sun in 13'18 South

so Sun parallel Soulie with only 1 minute of arc

so I guess it all comes down to how one person relates to an object in his/her chart

that's relative. maybe it can refer to spiritual stuff. maybe it can refer to Black/African American stuff. maybe it can refer to both. maybe it can refer to something that is different from all those things.

it's all relative......just like I used the asteroid,Split in regards to abandonment as in "my father split" even though GotGemini suggested that it means breakup.

I find it interesting that both Split and Soulie mentioned in this thread both strongly aspect my Sun, and I had a
an accurate hunch that they did.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 13, 2009 12:25 PM         

I was the one to say "it's over", after two years I was completely exhausted and fed up - and gave up ... I guess it surprised/overwhelmed him a bit - and I think he felt resentful and vengeful afterwards.

HIM:

Natal SPLIT in Gemini, 10th house
- cj. his Sun/Moon
- cj. his Pt. of Romance
- sextile his Moon (exact)
- trine his Pt. of Destiny
- trine his Toro
- square his ASC/DSC (exact)
- square his Chiron
- square his Eros
- square his Nemesis
- square his Pt. of Foolhardiness
- square his Pt. of Enemies
- oppos. his Venus/Saturn-Mp.

Transiting SPLIT during te actual break-up in Aries in his 7th (!)
- cj. his Moon/Saturn-Mp.
- cj. his Moon/Chiron-Mp.
- cj. his Moon/Eros-Mp.
- sextile his Juno
- sextile his Psyche
- sextile his BM Lilith
- trine his Helena
- trine his Kassandra
- oppos. his Lacrimosa ("tears")
- oppos. his Sun/Neptune-Mp.
- oppos. his Mercury/Neptune-Mp.
- square his Vulcanus

ME:

Natal SPLIT in Virgo, 9th house
- cj. my Zeus
- cj. my Victoria
- cj. my Sun/Jupiter-Mp.
- sextile my Vertex
- sextile my Popularity
- sextile my Wildcat
- sextile my Atropos
- trine my Eros
- trine my Pt. of Love (exact)
- trine my Tolerantia
- trine my Ehrlich ("Honesty") (exact)
- square my Karma
- square my Chronos
- square my Lust
- square my Pt. of Catastrophe
- square my Urania
- square my Part of Change
- oppos. my Sunshine
- oppos. my Angel
- oppos. my Moon/Saturn-Mp.

posted August 13, 2009 03:11 PM         

Transits for my chart:
tSplit trine nSplit (1)
tSplit conjunct nJuno (2)
tSplit conjunct nUnion (4)
tMoon trine nSplit (4)
tMoon conjunct nVenus (2)
tLilith square nMoon (0)
tLilith square Jupiter (DSC RULER) (0)
tPluto square nVenus (1) [I THOUGHT THIS WAS DONE. SWEET EFFING CHRIST]
tSun square Vertex (0)
tUranus conjunct Venus (3)

posted August 13, 2009 03:46 PM         

I am very sorry about your break up.

I wish you great luck in finding a much better guy for you.

Hugs

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 13, 2009 10:31 PM         

he s never really broke up w me but he took off w another woman w out telling me..so there is not a specific day but when he started his distancing from me SPLIT was right on top of my sun/moon midpoint. ouch!

in november 2009 the woman who took him away from me will have Tsplit on her natal chiron. also Turanus will conj her venus in few months and T pluto will opp her moon

posted August 14, 2009 02:06 AM         

Split was conjunct my ex's Venus when I left him.