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Topic: Is my Venus Combust?
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MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 125 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 09:43 AM
scrappydog - do the two people you know who are very mercurian and intelligent have good moon aspects? And the other two, do they not have such good moon aspects?Would be curious to see if what the article suggests is accurate IP: Logged |
Unmoved Moderator Posts: 548 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 09:45 AM
Oh yeah, MsCandeh... I read that too... but I am not convinced. I suppose, yes... every planet until 17 degrees from the sun gets a little of the sun's rays, 17 degrees being the very least. Hmmm... but yeah, more than one person speaks of 17 degrees, but more interestingly, it's not every degree until 17 degree... it is some, e.g. 10, 11, 14, 17 ,etc. which I find strange. Ag... Someone had better clarify this, or else I will choose to have my Venus without any combust thing going on. Sorry for sounding inarticulate, i just woke up. actually, I think I have already deemed my Venus not to be combust. IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 125 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 10:40 AM
kekeke I think I'm with you on this one Also if its every even degree.. mine is 9deg 14 mins away .. so it's outside of 8deg30 and an odd number! I think yours is odd too from memory XD woohoo we're not combust or even a little bit debilitated! (well I might be a little bit cos it's closer to 8'30!! hehehe *crazy laugh*) IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 04:22 PM
wow what an interesting thread!i have mercury and mars exactly conjunct (2 seconds apart) combust my sun by 4 degrees. i consider myself a rather intelligent person. i have a very high IQ, for instance. this stellium occurs in aquarius, so maybe that helps things? i don't know whether it's the exact conjunction of my mercury or mars or if it's what geocosmic valentine said, but i do find my mercury is especially STRONG in my chart. it makes a wide square to my moon, so no help there! interestingly, that article on astrologyweekly said that a combust mars is strengthened, so perhaps i am receiving help there as well. i do find my mind, drive and sense of self operate as a distinct whole and i find it difficult to turn this thing OFF. i am also acutely aware of the mind-body connection and have manifested both a debilitating physical issue (constant chronic pain that is very much tied into anxiety) and several instances of immense, spontaneous self-healing (from death and the brink and other illnesses). i just believed i could, and i did. this is so interesting to ponder! also, my special friend has his sun conjunt pluto exact, in scorpio (which likely adds strength here) and he is by all means super plutonic. so, i'm with geo, i think IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 04:29 PM
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 05:38 PM
I've always known that my Mercury is combust, its at 4' degrees Leo and my Sun is at 8' degrees, which just furthers my lack of objectivity. I also have a problem of skipping words when I write, which really annoys the hell out of me! IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 05:59 PM
hmm, i guess i don't understand the 'lack of objectivity' statement. the article references edison and kant as examples of mercury combust. on kant: Kant created a new widespread perspective in philosophy which influenced philosophy through to the 21st Century. He also published important works of epistemology, as well as works relevant to religion, law, and history. One of his most prominent works is the Critique of Pure Reason, an investigation into the limitations and structure of reason itself. It encompasses an attack on traditional metaphysics and epistemology, and highlights Kant's own contribution to these areas. The other main works of his maturity are the Critique of Practical Reason, which concentrates on ethics, and the Critique of Judgment, which investigates aesthetics and teleology. Pursuing metaphysics involves asking questions about the ultimate nature of reality. Kant suggested that metaphysics can be reformed through epistemology.[1] He suggested that by understanding the sources and limits of human knowledge we can ask fruitful metaphysical questions. He asked if an object can be known to have certain properties prior to the experience of that object. He concluded that all objects about which the mind can think must conform to its manner of thought. Therefore if the mind can think only in terms of causality – which he concluded that it does – then we can know prior to experiencing them that all objects we experience must either be a cause or an effect. However, it follows from this that it is possible that there are objects of such nature which the mind cannot think, and so the principle of causality, for instance, cannot be applied outside of experience: hence we cannot know, for example, whether the world always existed or if it had a cause. And so the grand questions of speculative metaphysics cannot be answered by the human mind, but the sciences are firmly grounded in laws of the mind.[2] to me this sounds like a highly concentrated mercury, but i don't see it lacking objectivity! it seems to be more of a total immersion in the nature of the mind and steadfastness with uncovering its nature. maybe bridging the link between objectivity and subjectivity. i experience thought in a similar way, but i don't think i'm lacking in objectivity. i am, however, not fond of being distracted from my train of thought, which is perpetual. hmm. verviter, i'm curious: do you skip words because you are thinking ahead of what you are writing? i do this myself. also when i talk i will often skip over large parts of what i'm trying to get across. my mind jumps really quickly! maybe that's the aquarian factor, though. IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 06:33 PM
oh that's weird. i just read the next paragraph on wiki about kant:Kant believed himself to be creating a compromise between the empiricists and the rationalists. The empiricists believed that knowledge is acquired through experience alone, but the rationalists maintained that such knowledge is open to Cartesian doubt and that reason alone provides us with knowledge. Kant argues, however, that using reason without applying it to experience will only lead to illusions, while experience will be purely subjective without first being subsumed under pure reason. it seems maybe the combustion simultaneously weakens (draws in or overshadows, or overSHINES), and gives power to the planet? maybe it is like the planet gains strength from the proximity and is then compelled to expend it outward, which then weakens it, until it is drawn in again? i'm not sure exactly what i mean, but i see an itty bitty bridge between the two in my mind. the two are inseperable but there is a bit of a tug of war going on, as the planet tries to maintain autonomy but the sun refuses to give up its influence. and thus, maybe there is always a choice. ahh, i'm babbling now. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 06:46 PM
quote: verviter, i'm curious: do you skip words because you are thinking ahead of what you are writing? i do this myself. also when i talk i will often skip over large parts of what i'm trying to get across. my mind jumps really quickly! maybe that's the aquarian factor, though.
Yes, I'm always thinking ahead. My Mercury (in 8th house) is also sextile Mars and square Pluto, so I'm not a slow thinker at all and I can figure out things really easily like repairing electronics and calculating midpoints and all the more technical aspects of astrology without bating an eye. However I have to really be interested in the subject, basically my heart has to be in it, which probably just reflects my Leo Sun/ Mercury.
Plus my Moon is in Pisces and in the 3rd house, which might contribute to the skipping words and thinking ahead. I'm always thinking about my emotions, so in that sense I can be objective. And my Moon is also sextile Pluto, which I think when Pluto aspects planets it adds intensity and a somewhat more objectiveness than would seem otherwise. Is your Mercury combust as well? IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 06:54 PM
quote: it seems maybe the combustion simultaneously weakens (draws in or overshadows, or overSHINES), and gives power to the planet? maybe it is like the planet gains strength from the proximity and is then compelled to expend it outward, which then weakens it, until it is drawn in again? i'm not sure exactly what i mean, but i see an itty bitty bridge between the two in my mind. the two are inseperable but there is a bit of a tug of war going on, as the planet tries to maintain autonomy but the sun refuses to give up its influence. and thus, maybe there is always a choice.
Its like the Sun is getting more Mercurian energy so it is inherently more accustomed to Mercury, but at the same time it is trying to pull away from this more cerebral part of the Sun. I think depending on what sign the Sun and Mercury is in might reflect if your an intellectual genius or a subjective mofo.
I also tend to write much more articulately when I write than when I'm speaking, maybe to compensate or maybe Mercury comes out more in writing? Oh yeah, you said you had Aquarius influences, my Uranus is in the first house so I also have a smorgasbord personality since Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are all in my first house and retrograde! IP: Logged |
Unmoved Moderator Posts: 548 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 09:38 PM
woah city~ Excellent contribution. Thank you. You can babble all you want on this thread. As one who babbles too, when I am having a "light-bulb" moment, I totally understand. What GV said about Venus, in my case, makes sense since Venus is a benefic, so it is probably exempt from all of this. It is interesting to hear about your Mercury, and how it manifests itself. quote: ...if your an intellectual genius or a subjective mofo.
I suppose. My Venus is very influenced by Uranus through aspect and house position. on top of that, my Uranus is in 1st. This is definitely an interesting subject. IP: Logged | |