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MsCandeh
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posted August 17, 2009 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed a "true" Yod in my chart lol
(two quincunxes and a sextile)

I was reading up on Aspect Patterns and had a quick look at my chart and there it was staring at me in the face!!

It's between
Pluto 0/Sco/09
Neptune 1/Cap/01
Chiron 2/Gem/10

I was reading this website http://www.therealastrology.com/HTML/FAQS/AspectPatterns.html

"Yods tend to represent a crisis in timing. What usually happens when a Yod is triggered is that we tend to react too quickly with the first sextile planet, and then we tend to wait too long to respond with the second sextile planet. The release point, the time when it is truly appropriate to take action, is the point opposite the Apex planet, which is also the midpoint of the sextile. When a Yod has been integrated and when we actually learn when and how to respond with it, the sextile planets tend to work together to stimulate a significant shift in how the apex planet functions."

I'm not sure how to interpret this as the energy involves Chiron at the apex point! If anyone has any insights into this, it would be muchly appreciated

Please let me know if you would like me to post my chart.

I also noticed that one of the planets sits on the antiscia axis and the article suggests that this can help balance the quincunx effects?

I think Chiron being one of the planets has thrown me out and I don't know how to interpret it lol .. so any help is muchly appreciated XD

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posted August 17, 2009 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi X3 With the yods, the sextile planets' energies are in harmony with each other, whereas the quincunx planet's energy is actually in conflict with them. To visualize it easier, notice that the quincunx planet is opposed to the sextile planets' midpoint. Which means that one of the way to actually work a yod out is to find balance between the quincunx planet and the sextile planets.

With your yod, I'd think that your dreams/idealism and sense of transformation can be in conflict with your healing/pain (it could be that when you focus on your Neptune/Pluto ideals, it might hurt your wounds, or that focusing on healing yourself might feel like going against your Neptune/Pluto ideals). Focusing in either one of the sides too much might be bad, so it is important to find a balance between these two sides. But well, remember that the opposition aspect isn't necessarily bad - it is actually complementary.

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posted August 17, 2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow! i was just wondering last night if i have a yod and got distracted and didn't look it up. then this morning i woke up feeling fowl thinking about how much my mom has completely interfered with my idealism and transformational capacities. then i found this thread first thing, checked, and i have a yod between

neptune 19 sag
pluto 20 libra
moon 20 taurus

interestingly my uranus is 20 scorpio (oh my poor moon! nevermind the other squares to it!) so my uranus IS the midpoint. i'm not sure exactly how to work this through either, but it certainly seems key!

i'll think about how else chiron might figure into this and get back to you later!

comica, great advice!

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posted August 18, 2009 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
comica, thanks for your insights... it does make sense. I am also going through some tChiron transits (sq. sun and mars, cj. ASC). tPluto is also quincunx nChiron (and also conjunct nNeptune and sextile nPluto) so the yod is being activated right now.

It's a really transformative period for me, and on top of the eclipses.. it's all getting a bit much! I haven't even gone through my Saturn return yet! XP

So I'm trying to focus on what I have learned from my past failings/hurts if that makes sense... and try and make changes within myself so I am better equipped for the future. I hope that's sort of balancing the yod out (I was trying to do this before I read up about it anyway). It's a very confusing and frustrating energy to work with by the sounds of it. I read up on tChiron-nSun aspect - which is about learning to love yourself and building self respect ... so with tChiron also activating this I am learning to have much more self-respect and learning not to have to prove myself to people I guess. It's probably more apparent now as the yod is being activated by tPluto.

I think I am finding this hard to interpret because of all the activity going on for me at the moment and my mind is going a bit cloudy hehehe .. so thanks again for replying, it sort of just helped kickstart my brain into making more sense of all of this! (Though I am far from figuring it all out lol)

woah city,

Synchronicity eh!!

If you go to the link I posted above, just underneath the yod description is an explanation of a boomerang. This is what you are describing. This is like a yod but your sextile midpoint it focused already by the third planet opposing the quincunxed planet, making it a bit easier to sort out.

HTH

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posted August 19, 2009 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks msCandeh! wow a boomerang. how interesting. i checked that link and it definitely makes sense to me. much appreciated!

i was thinking, maybe your chiron at the apex point is about totally moving through your pain, which in gemini relates to difficulty with communication, or some wound in that aspect of life (or with siblings?), and strengthening it to absolute perfection. i think the key with chiron is transforming that pain to the point that you actually become a healing FORCE. so i would think though a yod is difficult to manage, once you are able to do so, it's actually a very lovely configuration, considering it's carrying the energies of neptune and pluto which will definitely assist healing urges and deepen them to something very singnificant. does that make any sense to you?

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posted August 19, 2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you read up on Chiron on Gemini?

Because Neptune and Pluto occur through a generation, I'd tend to believe that the "harmony" of those planets occurs through your peer group, and your particular "wounds" and ability to heal are hard to relate to others' ideas of transformation and spirituality. Look up what Capricorn and Scoprio stand for, and see how different they are from Gemini, and also see how these three signs might find some common ground.

I just realized I have a pho-yod. My Pluto/Neptune sextile both quincunx my Ascendant. It is weird, astro.com never showed the quincunx between neptune and ascendant. I had to count it myself. They are at 154 degrees from each other. Is that too wide or something? I read a description of this aspect from astroweekly and it is way too accurate...

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posted July 30, 2011 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 25, 2012 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 25, 2012 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an exact yod (no orbs). Pluto/saturn vs. jupiter. It's been quite difficult for me to intergrate this throughout my life. The sort way to explain it, is I naturally want to expand and grow though my problems, in particular through pluto as that is a dominate force in me, and saturn because it's afflicted and I want to trump my problems. The trouble is any time I try to "amp up the energy" of either of these it falls apart. I have to somehow bridge the power of pluto and the workforce of saturn (which is really hard to do). I usually overdue the pluto and underdo the saturn. It just takes time and patients and it is something I am always working on in my life.

I have found that yods can actually be really powerful tools. I have a total of 5 quincunx in my chart so that whole balancing act is nothing new to me. In a way it makes having a yod easier.

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posted March 25, 2012 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bopbop:
I had to count it myself. They are at 154 degrees from each other. Is that too wide or something? I read a description of this aspect from astroweekly and it is way too accurate...

That's an orb of 4 and generally thought to be too far for a quincunx. Personally, I only count a quincunx if the orb is 0, 1, or, 2. Any larger then that and the effects to which it is felt drops off pretty significantly.

Just because somethings describes you well, doesn't mean that it has to come from that aspect. My jupiter and mercury are 9 orb apart from each other, which is just too far for a conjunction. Nevertheless when I read the description of that it fits me super super well. Yet, that doesn't mean I have that aspect. What that aspect explains can actually be found through other aspects and placements that I have in my chart elsewhere.

Beware the forer effect.

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posted March 25, 2012 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MataMoros     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is a Yod?

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Lonake
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posted March 25, 2012 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ 1 sextile with both placements inconjunct to a single placement is the basic formation. A sextile is 60 degrees, an inconjunct (quincunx) is 150. Link and a book on the subject.

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