posted August 18, 2009 04:28 PM         

Passive-agressiveness and/or emotional manipulation: heavy water influence with challenging aspects, especially Cancer influence, although really all three water signs. This comes because watery people are so emotionally tender and raw...mature ones learn to see and experience that vulnerability as a form of strength, while immature ones get in a cycle of struggling for power while feeling victimized (immature Scorpio), wanting everyone to prove their love by being mind-readers (immature Cancer) and subjecting everyone to little tests with no warning or straightforwardness (immature Cancer/Scorp), or not wanting a confrontation, so almost willfully drifting around and not even admitting to themselves--let alone others--what they want (immature Pisces.) This can also play out with immature people who have challenging Pluto, Moon, or Neptune aspects and have not yet learned to work with them in a constructive way.

posted August 18, 2009 04:54 PM         

sun/Cap with Cancer Moon and Rising! He is King of emotional manipulation! which he comes by easily from his Aqua/sun Leo/rising Mother, who is queen of manipulation of any sort. Don't sound bitter do I?

AND my daughter, she is sun/pisces, cancer rising and virgo Moon, I don't know HOW she does it, but she can do something wrong, we have a discussion, and I end up apologizing! She is primo at turning on the water works which makes Mommy butter out of me.

and then a Scorp/sun, Cancer/riser, ooohhh, he makes me so mad, cause he uses anger to manipulate. Or turns it around like, "Yeah, I know, I'm a worthless peice of crap, I don't know how you put up with me!"

posted August 18, 2009 05:57 PM         

Lucia, i included sarcasm used in combination with negativity as a tool of personal attack, because they can be pretty powerful. maybe i was slightly off. of all the types of humour, i love sarcasm the most. of course in moderation and balance, but i haven't met many people who used it well.

posted August 18, 2009 06:06 PM         

My daughter have mon conj pluto in scorpio she also fight with her inner feelings.

My son also fight whit him self. He have pluto (wide orb), mars, saturn, opposite moon. Mars saturn square sun.

Our passive/agressiveness tendency drive us to evolve our life. We allways fight whit inner feeling to do some change.

So for me. mars, saturn. pluto, moon conflict aspekt cause problem

and also

posted August 18, 2009 11:18 PM         

However, over the last few years I have, as you suggested, learned to see my emotional vulnerability as a strength. Yet, it still takes a conscious effort on my part to stop emotionally testing, controlling, or manipulating people.Passive/aggressiveness used to be a hallmark trait of mine. This seems to be the hardest things for any water sign to admit: that we are so defensive in a variety of ways due to our raw sensitivity yet it is o.k. to let our bubbles burst.

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