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Topic: mars -desire - confrontation
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starkiss1
Knowflake Posts: 74
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posted August 22, 2009 05:00 PM
 
Hi all, how do you,knowflakes,react when somebody from authority tells you off?Do you retaliate or do you accept without questions asked? All welcome  IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted August 22, 2009 05:26 PM
I accept mostly but not always. If i must confront i cant stop. If i must do something i cant stop, i will just do it. Mars in cancer here in house 11.IP: Logged |
starkiss1
Knowflake Posts: 74
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posted August 22, 2009 05:37 PM
Popcorn,can you yell at your boss? i mean if you are really annoyed with him/her?IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
Knowflake Posts: 1150
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted August 22, 2009 05:42 PM
Mars in Libra in the sixth. I do what I'm told, but if someone is ridiculously disrepectful, I would tell them exactly what I think of them and walk off the job. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted August 22, 2009 05:51 PM
My Mars is in Scorpio in 1st, as mentioned in your other thread. I've said, "FU" to a boss before. *sigh* I was very angry. It was a performance appraisal thing and apparently I said something to a client that I shouldn't have said. When I asked my boss to give me the tape of the phone call, he wouldn't... so I said, "FU", left his office, went to my desk, took my things and left. I didn't get fired and all the commotion didn't affect my commission, so I tried to forget about that day. My boss and I respected each other after that, and he made me his 2IC (Second in Charge). I don't have a problem with confrontation, but I don't go looking for it. edit: If a person confronts me, I respect that. I always consider what's being said seriously, and review it objectively. If I find it true I will express thanks for highlighting whatever issue they have highlighted. If on the other hand, the confrontation is based on something that holds no ground then I usually confront them on their real issue. Some people will accuse people of a lot of things that aren't true, when there is a deeper issue at work, like jealousy, competition, looking for attention or just to crush a person's spirit. So, if I can smell that the reason a person is confronting me or "being honest" is something else, I:
1. avoid them because they annoy me.
2. provoke them because I want the issue to come to the surface.
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starkiss1
Knowflake Posts: 74
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posted August 22, 2009 06:02 PM
How many of you guys would tell your boss to F off if needed? IP: Logged |
popcorn
Knowflake Posts: 105
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posted August 22, 2009 06:08 PM
My boss are authoritarian. He always say no in the start. Mostly of time he change his mind. I almost get what i want.If i realy must confront i do that. And always know what i do. Have evidence and so on. I know my boss and like him. I like psyckological meeting or manipulation or what you want to called. I think the best for all meetings/confrontation are kindness. If i get no. So what. It s not importent to me. IP: Logged |
starkiss1
Knowflake Posts: 74
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posted August 22, 2009 06:10 PM
GW,you are such a mediator,what is ridiculously disrespectful in your terms? i think i know - it's when somebody is f.....g rude!I am happy to kill them for you IP: Logged |
starkiss1
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posted August 22, 2009 06:23 PM
Unmoved - my respect. You are tough.IP: Logged |
Unmoved
Moderator Posts: 583
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posted August 22, 2009 06:46 PM
starkiss1~ you'd be surprised. I am a very quiet, soft-spoken, laid back person most of the time. I just have a fair amount of rage.  Nah... I'm a sleeping bear.
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GypseeWind
Knowflake Posts: 1150
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted August 22, 2009 06:46 PM
Well, it depends on the boss and the job. When your a bartender, its kind of a different world, you know, things are a little more lax, and alot of bar bosses/owners drink so.. You gotta take them with a grain of salt. But being double fire, when I lose my temper it tends to be a big spectacle. Like for ex. Once I was working as a bartender in a restaurant, and the manager told me I had to waitress that evening because he was short some girls. I told him straight up I suck as a waitress, PLUS bartenders get paid more than waitresses and he informed me that for the hours I would be waitressing, I would be getting waitress wages, which at the time were, $2.15 per hour. That torked me off, but, I did what I was told... everything was going pretty smooth, until I accidently took another waitresses order, which was the same as mine, and I had been waiting for it for a long time. The manager comes running out of the kitchen, yelling at me, saying, "Thats not your effing order, what the eff is wrong with you? Your going to pay for that meal!" So I took off my apron and told him to stick his meal and his job up his A, flipped him the bird and walked out.
He finds me like a week later at a carnival in town. He starts giving me this sob story about how he and his wife aren't getting along, and how stressed he was that night cuz people had called off, and he wanted to know if I would come back. I was very nice, and said No that I wouldnt come back because he disrespected me in a room full of co-workers and patrons, and I would not feel comfortable working there. We're still friends to this day though, so, you know...just depends.IP: Logged |
librarising
Knowflake Posts: 60
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Registered: May 2009
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posted August 23, 2009 01:53 AM
Leo Mars in the tenth house
Mars square Pluto (scorp. in 1st)
Mars quicunx Neptune (cap. in 3rd)
I would and have. I had a similar experience as Unmoved where I stuck up for myself and brought on respect. For some people in a position of power who have been outline can respect someone who confronts their actions.
I am not one to be crossed and people are often startled by me when I am in confrontation mode because I am "so sweet... nice... quiet". People misjudge my nice, calm, quiet, and grounded personality as someone that is a stepping-stone... They are wrong. IP: Logged |
librarising
Knowflake Posts: 60
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Registered: May 2009
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posted August 23, 2009 01:53 AM
Leo Mars in the tenth house
Mars square Pluto (scorp. in 1st)
Mars quicunx Neptune (cap. in 3rd)
I would and have. I had a similar experience as Unmoved where I stuck up for myself and brought on respect.
I am not one to be crossed and people are often startled by me when I am in confrontation mode because I am "so sweet... nice... quiet". People misjudge my nice, calm, quiet, and grounded personality as someone that is a stepping-stone... They are wrong. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
Moderator Posts: 583
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posted August 23, 2009 02:15 AM
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People misjudge my nice, calm, quiet, and grounded personality as someone that is a stepping-stone... They are wrong.
I agree!! IP: Logged |
Taurean_Scorpion
Knowflake Posts: 72
From: Santa Monica, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2009 04:58 PM
I never accept without questioning or voicing my opinion when I think they're wrong. There is no way I am doing what someone tells me to do if it is unreasonable or unfair. I'm that way with all persons of authority.
I'm stubborn (Taurus Mercury, Mars in Aquarius), Taurus Sun, Scorpio Moon,...I tend to do what I think is right and usually I am right. Lol IP: Logged |
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