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Agent_009
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posted August 26, 2009 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious how those of you with Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto hard aspects in your natals play out. I myself have Venus conj. Pluto, & often find this to be a strange aspect...so I'd like to hear your experiences with people who have this aspect in their charts or your own. People with these aspects are supposed to be "intense."

1) In what way do you find yourself intense? How do you tend to use/redirect that energy...into the arts? leadership?
2) How does this aspect affect your intimate relationships? Are you usually the more sexually intense one? Are you usually the more controlled or jealous/obsessed one? Feel the need to dominate your partner?
3) Do you find your usually only attracted to others with these natal aspects in their chart as well?
4) Do people usually find you magnetic in some way...or do you tend to attract people who are usually obsessed with you??

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libraschoice7
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posted August 26, 2009 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars square Pluto aspect, and I would say I am too intense to the point where it often effects having a healthy relationship. I can be abrasive without realizing it. I usually try to channel this energy into something artistic when I can, I have tried it physically with sports/exercise and it just makes the energy more sexual than it needs to be..an for some reason I attract zealot like an obsessive type partners to me, who try to dominant me in some way or another(but my Uranus in 5th will not stand for it). Even when I come across as easy going, it still doesn't help keep these types away. Though I find that the most sexual magnetism I have shared with anyone is another Mars/Pluto person, but too many extremes..as far as people finding me attractive and sexy LOL that's a laugh because its quite the opposite. But I have noticed before that people with Venus/Pluto hard aspected in their chart get others that become deeply infatuated or obsessed with them.

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Lonake
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posted August 26, 2009 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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librarising
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posted August 26, 2009 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for librarising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) In what way do you find yourself intense? How do you tend to use/redirect that energy...into the arts? leadership? I am an all or nothing type. I also cannot force myself to front a happy facade, care for things I do not, or to follow things I do not agree with. I am a very serious person about my lifestyle and future. I have structured my life in a way to ensure I meet my goals. I just finished college and was not one to party and misbehave in public (I did that in highschool), I did/do not care for clubs or bars, or care for involving myself with people my age that are not serious about their future. I have goals that involve furthering my education and profession. I cannot be bothered with people who consume themselves in updating their Twitter, Myspace/Facebook photos, and being seen in the 'scene'. I have been told numerous times that I am 'intense', 'private', 'too serious', and 'quiet'. I do know how to have fun and enjoy life but I only share it with myself and the people I care for. I tend to use my intense energy by working hard on my goals and hobbies (painting, making jewelry).
2) How does this aspect affect your intimate relationships? Are you usually the more sexually intense one? Are you usually the more controlled or jealous/obsessed one? Feel the need to dominate your partner? I am serious in my relationships and am not one down for a �fling�. I like monogamy and to be with someone that I can see growth with. I am a creeper when it comes to finding information about people. I am not a jealous type but am dominating.
3) Do you find your usually only attracted to others with these natal aspects in their chart as well? No but I do have Pluto in the first house and so does my partner.
4) Do people usually find you magnetic in some way...or do you tend to attract people who are usually obsessed with you?? I have had some stalkers (gross/creepy).


Mars (leo) square Pluto (scorpio)
Mars in 10th, Pluto in 1st
Venus trine Pluto

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JChristine
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posted August 26, 2009 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JChristine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in the 10th house. I suppose I am a little intense. I am firm in my beliefs and like to get things done...I hate when my time is wasted, or when others are unprepared or dragging their feet. I consider my time to be valuable, priceless even, so to waste it is to disrespect me. I go into slow burn, I do my best to keep my mouth shut, but I do let sharp comments slip through. When I am angry I can be brutally honest.

I have a lot of Sag-Pisces energy so I tend to wander quite a bit, but once I focus on what I want I go after it full steam ahead, even if it takes me eons to get it. I noticed this more especially after Pluto ran over my Sun & Asc in '06-08. I enjoy the arts, especially dancing, I've been performing since I was kid, but I now use it as a way to siphon off excess energy, to release anger & to generally stay happy. I actually feel energy & heat in my body just thinking about moving, dancing or fighting.

I think I can be jealous-obsessive, but it doesn't last long, I find that I feel weak when I'm in that state so I let go as soon as I can. I think in everyday affairs I like to have a fair amount of control. In the bedroom I like to let go and have a good time, I have the Sag sense of humor with the Scorpio desire. I like being dominated and enjoy strong males who challenge me. I like sex to be intense and satisfying.

I haven't noticed it before with past partners, but my current partner has Pluto opposite Venus & Mars trine Pluto. My ex may have had Pluto Square Venus as well, though I cannot say for sure.

I'm not sure if people find me magnetic or not because of this aspect, I do know that I am very selective about who I allow in my personal space. I weed out energies I do not like very quickly and people know to keep their distance from me if I want them to. I know that I'm good at putting up that energetic wall. I've had a few creepy encounters, but managed to come out unscathed & they generally never bothered me again.

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posted August 27, 2009 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrobelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread! I love learning and hearing about others Venus/Pluto experiences and what they think of them. I have the opposition in my chart and have found it to be most challenging. All of my intimate relationships have always felt "fated", or "destined" in some way. Passion, power, extreme love, jealousy, control issues, (oh yeah!).. but if I were to sum up what is most yearned for with this aspect -- a deep, soul level merging with another, that must go beyond the physical.

One thing I've noticed is the relationships that have had the greatest impact have had a personal planet conjunct my Pluto (sun or moon). I can usually "feel" them a mile away! Otherwise, Scorpios and people with Venus/Pluto aspects themselves, I seem to resonate well with.

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Astrobelle
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posted August 27, 2009 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrobelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread! I love learning and hearing about others Venus/Pluto experiences and what they think of them. I have the opposition in my chart and have found it to be most challenging. All of my intimate relationships have always felt "fated", or "destined" in some way. Passion, power, extreme love, jealousy, control issues, (oh yeah!).. but if I were to sum up what is most yearned for with this aspect -- a deep, soul level merging with another, that must go beyond the physical.

One thing I've noticed is the relationships that have had the greatest impact have had a personal planet conjunct my Pluto (sun or moon). I can usually "feel" them a mile away! Otherwise, Scorpios and people with Venus/Pluto aspects themselves, I seem to resonate well with.

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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2009 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that sun or moon opposed your venus can also a great attractor, coupled with the conj of pluto and for your chart this makes sense vs. someone like me with saturn conj pluto who does not welcome any sun or moon conjunctions there! oppositions still have me a bit confused though as I don't have any in my chart, but one thing I have noticed is its more typical to experience that energy as reflected outwards by another, you go out and meet it in the world, say vs. my square which tends to be energy bundled up inside desparately seeking expression and release. that soul level merging though, transcending the physical.. i tend to link this to a pluto/neptune dynamic. is pisces or h12 influencing this opposition i wonder? or your sun moon asc?

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Agent_009
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posted August 27, 2009 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great responses guys....I resonate with quite a few things each of you have said.

I have Venus conj. Pluto in my chart, and how it plays out is just plain weird to me. I always seem to attract intense psycho stalkerish type guys despite not doing anything. As a result, I'm always conscious not to flirt...even afraid of dating. I'm very attracted to people who exhibit passion & power (usually others with venus/mars-pluto). As I tend to be a loner, I think this aspect's energy is soley directed into creating art & music. I'm constantly challenging myself to create art/music that would "touch" the soul. This applies to relationships as well. I'm always looking for a deep soul level transformative, transcending perfection...it makes it difficult for me to like anyone. I'm very selective with letting people into my life as well...as I'm not interested in anything superficial. In relationships, I'm quite aloof and almost seem immune to jealousy. My ex had always complained it felt like I didnt love him enough cuz I was never jealous. Despite the lack of jealousy/obsession...I'm a total control freak. I need to dominate in relationships as well as the job front. Anyways all in all, I find this aspect always leaves me feeling unsatisfied...constantly searching for something more raw, deeper....perfection.

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ginger cancer
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posted August 27, 2009 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ginger cancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello Agent_009 and everyone on this thread,
i have venus square pluto and mars trine pluto. i don't know whether i shall consider them as hard aspects.

1) i consider myself very intense when it comes to people and my relationships with them: friends, boyfriend, love of any kind. i tend to put this as my number one life priority, especially when my relationships are in crisis. i tend to abandon everything and consider this as my existential worry. so i have extreme problems on redirecting energy on anything else but this.
2) yes to the first, to the second question, i become obsesssed if something does not work out, third-i don't feel the need to dominate, but i feel the need to be in control and that everything is working as i want
3)my boyfriend has venus, jupiter, midheaven trine pluto and sun, mercury, saturn square pluto. is this what is attracting me to him?
people are attracted to me and they find me attractive, but then it can be just typical sun conj. venus thing or aqua asc quirkiness

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ginger cancer
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posted August 27, 2009 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ginger cancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello Agent_009 and everyone on this thread,
i have venus square pluto and mars trine pluto. i don't know whether i shall consider them as hard aspects.

1) i consider myself very intense when it comes to people and my relationships with them: friends, boyfriend, love of any kind. i tend to put this as my number one life priority, especially when my relationships are in crisis. i tend to abandon everything and consider this as my existential worry. so i have extreme problems on redirecting energy on anything else but this.
2) yes to the first, to the second question, i become obsesssed if something does not work out, third-i don't feel the need to dominate, but i feel the need to be in control and that everything is working as i want
3)my boyfriend has venus, jupiter, midheaven trine pluto and sun, mercury, saturn square pluto. is this what is attracting me to him?
people are attracted to me and they find me attractive, but then it can be just typical sun conj. venus thing or aqua asc quirkiness

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maira
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posted August 28, 2009 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!!
I have a close sun-venus-mars conjunction, all opposite Pluto in 1st. My dad has mars-pluto opp, and my mom has venus pluto opp, so I always joke and say that a real dictator had to be born in this family
I never thought about any of your questions, so here are my answers:

1) Mars-pluto means to me extreme anger, as in "gimme a gun now" type of anger, sudden outbursts (mars in aries). My closest friends admitted that they sometimes fear me (they are both men), but I don't feel that I am intense...

2) Once came close to a date rape kind of thing, that's venus opp pluto. Always dominate the partner, but in an "iron fist in a velvet glove", libra ascendant kind of way. I do attract jealous types, but I have had obsessions too.

3) It run in the family And my best friend has venus in scorpio, my ex-husband, ascendand in scorp, another friend - moon in scorp, so yes.

4) My friend commented the other day that we do not know anyone in our age group that did not feel attracted to me, but that might be the mars-venus conjunction or the libra ascendant, old histrionic me Yes to this question too.

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Virgo/Leo Cusp
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posted August 29, 2009 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo/Leo Cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow agent009

your post struck a cord with me........because that is exactly .....what I feel too.....when I read it....I was like OMG someone who feels the same way....I'm also a loner...I like people but I must have some space

I have Venus Square Pluto and Mars Conj Pluto Conj Midheaven all in the 10th house and I have alot of planets in the 8th house....so people tell me ....I have an intense presence overall.....I also have Moon trine Pluto....pretty much, I have pluto aspecting almost all of my personal planets..........I also tend to go to extremes....which I guess can scare some people...I like pushing myself to the limit, emotionally, physically, it cause me to feel and feel with an intense passion....some people say I project a sense of power.....but I def don't see it....but it must be an unconcious thing

I'm really attracted to other people who are intense and passionate and where I can sense some power.......My current love interest has Venus Opp Pluto, Mars trine Pluto and Moon square Pluto...and Venus square Moon.....so you can say....this person is right up my alley.....But I wouldn't have it any other way.....I want to sense everything with every ounce of my being and that includes love....

so I can relate

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