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Topic: When to count aspects
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bopbop Knowflake Posts: 183 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 26, 2009 10:51 PM
Yes this is another synastry topic yay! I was wondering what you do to judge when to count an aspect as having an impact. Say, if two people were born close together, would you count aspects to outer planets? How would you count them? Also, if a person has a conjunction, and another person's planet conjuncts one of those planets 2 degrees but the other 6 degrees, would you count both? How wide would you go with orbs? Any other situations you've run across in aspects that were iffy or unsure of the significance?I've wondered whether or not to count an aspect that has a wider orb in synastry if the two planets involved are also making aspects by transit or composite, for instance. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 378 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2009 12:00 AM
quote: Say, if two people were born close together, would you count aspects to outer planets?
Yes. If A has outer planet action in their natal and B has their outer planet conj, that just emphasizes the energy of that outer planet natal aspect for A, and it will influence how they react to B thus emphasizing one partner's natal dynamic in the synastry -- it becomes very pronounced. Depending on how they're dealing with that energy can say a lot; this is one of the reasons it's common to find partners with age differences when one has a chart with multiple personal planet hard aspects to outer planets, and outers of course are the norms set for one's generation. quote: How would you count them?
Hmm? quote: Also, if a person has a conjunction, and another person's planet conjuncts one of those planets 2 degrees but the other 6 degrees, would you count both?
Yes, because the person with the natal conjunction experiences these energies as merged. Example: "A" has Mars 1 Taurus, Mercury 5 Taurus, "B" has Saturn 7 Taurus this shows the conj you're referring to in the orb aspect -- if B's Saturn is influencing A's Mercury and A's Mercury acts alongside and partnered up with A's Mars it will still be felt, even if it isn't a strong orb. quote: How wide would you go with orbs?
Technically speaking, no preference. What I look for first and focus on most are conj, sq, and opp involving at least one personal planet or angle within an orb of 3 degrees. Then I expand and look all aspects up to 5 degree orb, minus the sextiles, once I have the major players accounted for. Expanding again and taking in every aspect up to 10 degree orb. I tend to disregard sextiles for the most part adding them in at the end to point to possible breathing points in the synastry. They're the "helper" aspects but not very indicative of tension or release. quote: Any other situations you've run across in aspects that were iffy or unsure of the significance?
When the aspect is a larger orb and out of sign, it does tend to be more difficult to reconcile adding it to the mix. This type I'll add as a sidenote after careful deliberation of how it might play out. quote: if the two planets involved are also making aspects by transit or composite, for instance.
I'm unsure what this part of the question means. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 183 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 27, 2009 04:35 AM
Thanks Lonake! Your answers are very helpful. With the last part I meant a situation where synastry aspects are duplicated elsewhere. If the Sun and Venus were squared in the synastry, but it was a wide orb, yet in a transit, one person had Venus squaring their Sun, or in the composite there was Venus square Sun, then that synastry aspect could be important even with a wide orb.IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 200 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2009 01:10 PM
great stuff!IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 378 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2009 06:51 PM
yea i tend to look for repeated dynamics elsewhere, especially if a certain theme keeps popping up in the synastry. progressions also. but most imp. is how the person is responding to their natal dynamics, it's a lot easier to do once you've met them and can intuit where they're operating from. this can tip the ship so to speak in the other direction and certain aspects that seemed positive will play out not the way you think as well as the reverse. people can really only handle so much and that's completely normal; everyone wants a break once in a while. that's why i really like to see the harder natal aspects being given room to breathe via their synastry with another, but it's a personal bias IP: Logged | |