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Topic: Long term potential ... opinions needed
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piscpis
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From: new york, usa
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 29, 2009 09:23 PM
 
Look like something interesting ...IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2009 09:31 PM
Hi!is this his to her or her to his aspects? Are they all one-sided or jumbled up please? Can you post a synastry?  IP: Logged |
piscpis
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From: new york, usa
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 29, 2009 10:03 PM
They're all jumbled up ... and I don't know how to post a synastry chart ...IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted August 29, 2009 10:57 PM
I can't tell anything interesting from that jumbled list of aspects, but I firmly believe that NO relationship is "meant to be" or "not meant to be"--that has to do with whether both people intensely want to be together.In terms of those aspects, I'd like to see more hot sex aspects (Mars-Venus and Venus-Pluto), more conjunctions between the NN and planets, and angle-to-angle conjunctions (although it's not clear whether you are working with an accurate birth time for both parties.) On a quick glance, it looks like one of those relationships that could go either way...although I really like that Jupiter-ASC conjunction (as long as it's based on an accurate birth time and in a tight orb.) I don't think this is a useful way to do synastry analysis--looking at aspects as a sort of checklist, as if "long term potential" or "meant to be" are some sort of pass-fail test. Each relationship is unique. The thing to do is:
1) Before you look at the synastry, take stock of the relationship in real life. Why does the person asking about the synastry want to know whether it's "meant to be"? Is it because there are a lot of road blocks so far, or it doesn't quite feel right, or the two people aren't really together? Synastry analysis does not tell you whether a relationship will happen or whether it will be long term. It DOES tell you some tendencies, dynamics, and energies that are likely to come into play in the relationship, though, and you can figure out how to work with them to improve communication and deepen connection in the relationship. So step one is to ascertain what you [or the querent(s), if you are reading for others] are seeking in the relationship, and which challenges you're looking to address or dynamics you are hoping to explain. 2) Then do a careful analysis of each natal chart--the natals change how a person will respond to synastry dynamics 3) Then look at the synastry--house overlays are at least as important and significant as aspects. Every relationship has the potential to be long-term, short-term, or never going to happen. Synastry helps you work with those potentials constructively...it isn't a test for how "good", long-term, or fated a connection is. Believe me, lots of times people have come on here posting their "soul mate" synastry...if you stay on long enough, you find them posting lists of aspects to test their "soul connection" with some ENTIRELY NEW PERSON. I've been posting recently that using synastry as a test in that way is like rating a person's appearance on a 1-10 scale. It is subjective, crudely oversimplistic, and ultimately not useful.
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StarrofVenusGirl
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 29, 2009 11:29 PM
Hmmm. Honestly, I'm with Lucia, these seem kind of "meh" to me. The first few Sun aspects and the first couple of Moon aspects are nice, hard intriguing aspects but only if they are tight.It would be much better if you could post a synastry chart, also with some asteroids. I think there's some instructions on how to post a chart in the FAQ. I have been known to do this for people also, but I'm in and out of LL this weekend. If you want to leave the relevant birth info I can try to do it for you on Monday.
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staborgi
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Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 30, 2009 01:11 AM
Hi piscpis,
Not to discourage you but I feel like you're considering too much at once here by listing aspects, and more than that, considering just aspects is almost like looking at something out of context-- kind of like looking at individual colors of a painting without considering their placement in the whole. I too have found, especially with astrology considered, there's really nothing to signal two people being "meant to be" or not. Those are feelings we have and attribute to others, relationships, events, etc. Its all very subjective. That said there are certain things astrologically that I have found to trigger those feelings. In my experience- the NN/SN line, Vertex/Anti-Vertex, and Sun/Moon midpoints making aspects with another's personal planets or angles. Sometimes Black Moon Lilith and Eros but I've found that these don't stand on their own so much as within a relationship that already has those aforementioned connections. I agree with Lucia's guidelines. Starting with your natal is so important because we really do always look for others to kind of "speak to" or "echo" our own inner natal dynamics. A lot of time's you'll find your own sun's aspects speak to your relationships with men and your moon's speak to your relationships with women because the way you handle your own masculine/feminine energies is how you encounter them outside yourself, in experiences, as well. So if you have a Sun conjunct Mars in your natal chart, chances are you'll be very attracted to men who have a strong placement(s) of whatever sign your Mars is in, or whose Mars aspects your sun, because it will be familiar to you and so it will feel "meant to be." So I would go back to those aspects of yours and this person and see if you can find more relating them to the natals, that might be more telling than the aspects themselves. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 30, 2009 03:58 AM
When im looking in chart and check out synstry between someone i am in feeling in. I already know. It will never be him an i. All the relationship i beeing in have no question. Im not checked it out. Im beeing in the relationship.When i have question and would check someone out in synastry, i know. The synastry always give me hope and some kind of trust. If i have some feeling for someone i know the synastri describe the attraction. I can allways se it there. I also se in the sec progress in which period i feel the attraction. But thats me. Maybe someone else could se a longterm who its meant to be in chart. IP: Logged | |
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