posted August 31, 2009 12:02 PM         

27, 28, 29? The planet technically revolves around the sun every 29.5 years right?

I will be turning 28 on September 17, but am I entering mine now? Have I been in it for awhile now? Is it approaching but not quite here yet?

I ask because I am feeling sooo restless. I feel the need to make some major changes. And surprisingly, not in the area of relationships, despite most of my postings here being relationship-focused. Relationships are an area of intense focus in my life, but most of my restlessness is career and/or relocation focused.

I hate my job! Well, not really, but I know it's not what I want to do for the rest of my life. And I know I don't want to live in the area that I'm living in for the rest of my life. If I'm not mistaken, my solar return chart for the upcoming year is heavily career and/or relocation focused. I also need to grow the hell up and get my finances in order: I want to buy a house, start building a retirement fund, investing in a college fund for my child, etc. Yes, it would be ideal to do these things with a partner but he doesn't seem to be manifesting anytime soon, so I need to be prepared to do them on my own.

I'm not sure if this is all due to Saturn Return and/or Solar Return energies or both.

Is it too early to post a Solar Return chart? If not, I will definitely post it.

All I know is, I'm crawling out of my skin like a snake and I will go crazy if I don't...change....regenerate...evolve, somehow. That has got to be Saturn Return, right?

posted August 31, 2009 01:00 PM         

Looking at your natal chart you also have Natal Sun in aspect to Uranus (Uranus is in the ninth house of foreign cultures, travelling to foreign lands, encounters with foreign people etc) so this is no doubt bringing amplified inner restlessness and a need for you to physically relocate.

posted August 31, 2009 02:26 PM         

according to Ephemeris in my Solar Fire

transiting Saturn is going to enter Libra on October 29, 2009. That's my birthday with my Solar Return on October 28. It will be conjuncting my 0'51 Libra in 1st.

it will go retrograde in 4'39 Libra on Jan 14, 2010

it will go back into Virgo on April 8, 2010

it will go direct in 27'49 Virgo on May 31, 2010

it will re-enter Libra on July 21, 2010

its first entering in Libra and the retrograde period was overlooked

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 31, 2009 03:16 PM         

You have major transits involving Makemake and Haumea which are transneptunian dwarf planets/Plutoids like Eris and Pluto. You are also having major transits involving the plutinos,Ixion and Orcus.

I like the idea that Philip Sedgwick said about transneptunian dwarf planets and dwarf planet candidates.

He referred to them as evolutionary intensified objects. Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations.

Therefore,people with strong transneptunian energy seem to have evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences that make or break them.

Transiting Makemake in 24'53 Virgo in your 7th
conjunct your Sun in 24'55 Virgo in 7th

This also means that you're going to have Sun conjunct Makemake in your Solar Return. Makemake will be in 25'18 Virgo on September 17th of this year. Last year on September 17th, Makemake was in 24'19 Virgo. Therefore,your last Solar Return had Sun conjunct Makemake. You've been going through Sun conjunct Makemake Solar Return period right now,and you will be going through another one. I'd read up about Makemake about the evolutionary intensified experiences that you might be having that involve Makemake.

keywords by Philip Sedgwick:
Positive: Articulate and ultra-communicative. Self-assuredness, especially by verbal means. Clever, quick-witted and interested in invoking insight and inspiration with speech. Quick to report findings, regardless of impact. Courageous, possessing the willfulness to confront the peril required for discovery or spiritual evolution. Conscious of family security and safety. Protection of the brood.

Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.

Mundane: Data collection to support a doctrine or cause. Books, especially those of multi-cultural interest. Translation especially with a cross-cultural theme. Cultural synthesis. Integration of tasks. Computer iterations and/or algorithms. Dissemination of information whether true or false. Split second decisions. Lightning fast assessment. Fertility and fertility procedures. Birds. Fans. Eggs. Creeds. Documents of self declaration - affirmation statements, bios or autobiographies, a feather in one’s cap, selecting a safe location for nesting.

Ceremonial: Incantations. Oral remedies for healing. Meditations to unify the minds of several. Isolation for ceremonial purposes. Shamanic retreat. Cave ceremonies. Ceremonies involving hair cutting. Personal acceptance of one’s cause and karma. Ceremonies involving the use of feathers or eggs (feather fans, Eagle feather cleansing, the egg diagnostics of curanderos and curanderas - common in Ecuador, one of Rapa Nui’s neighbors).

Astronomy of Makemake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_(dwarf_planet)

Mythology of Makemake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_(mythology)

Transiting Haumea is in 15'08 Libra in your 7th
conjunct your Jupiter in 15'07 Libra in 7th

keywords by Philip Sedgwick:
Positive: Soulful confidence, an unshakeable personal inner knowing, creative, regenerative. Able to reconstruct, redefine, transform, especially regarding consciousness, willfulness and restoring rock solid integrity. Supportive. Fostering. Fertile. Creative.

Negative : Insecure and attention demanding. Dramatic. Egocentric. A bully disposition. Forces head-on collisions. Claims martyrdom and sacrifice to secure attention. Willing to attach to someone else’s momentum or allowing dependent sorts to attach to one’s efforts for self benefit (using non-paid volunteers, fans, devotees).

Mundane: Self awareness programs. Portraits and or caricatures. “Spin” as in political or media framing of events. Affinity or family bonds with those similar in nature. The Hula. The big island of Hawaii. Storm warnings to sailors in form or rainbow. Lava cooling in the sea to make land. Creation, fertility, childbirth and sisterhood. Verbal affirmations. Body sacrifice. Entourages. Groupies.

Ceremonial: Hulas, regeneration ceremonies, affirmations. Soul-based capitulation ceremonies (surrendering ego to spirit). Ceremonies in which a mask is removed (unmasking of the great Hopi kachina Saquasohuh).

Lunar bodies contributing to keywords: Hi’iaka, Namaka.

Astronomy of Haumea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_(dwarf_planet)

Mythology of Haumea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_(mythology)

You have transneptunian dwarf planet candidate,plutino, Ixion and Orcus
which are plutinos.That means that they have 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto. By rule, astronomers name plutinos after underworld characters. Their orbits are only a year apart from Pluto's. They are very similar astronomically,and so they are similar astrologically. Having Ixion and Orcus transits are like having Pluto transits.

Transiting Ixion in 13'43 Sagittarius in your 9th
conjunct/oppose your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis in 14'31 Sagittarius/Gemini

Philip Sedgwick's keywords:

Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning

Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience

Mundane - second efforts and chances, reset buttons, cloud seeding, study of weather, watching clouds, lust or coveting of another's mate

Ceremonial - rain dances, purging fires, seeking master healers

Ixion astronomy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28978_Ixion

Ixion mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixion

Transiting Orcus in 0'42 Virgo in 6th

so it will be
oppose/conjunct your Ascendant/Descendant in 3'32 Pisces this year

Philip Sedgwick's keywords
Positive: a person of one’s word, challenges broken promises, aligned with a spiritual creed, accountable for personal thought, word and deed

Negative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises

Mundane: contracts, oaths to organizations, religions or countries, creeds

Ceremonial: declaring faith, writing creeds, channeling the latest cosmic downloads and formatting it into doctrine

Astronomy of Orcus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90482_Orcus

Mythology of Orcus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orcus_(mythology)

It seems that you're going through a highly evolutionary intensifed time right now,and its going to extend well into next year.

http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 31, 2009 08:32 PM         

Well I knew about the Saturn transit conjunct my natal Sun and that it was a biggie but I guess I didn't think too much of it (silly me) because when I think transit I think "temporary" no matter how major it is and these changes I'm feeling about career and relocation feel so much more permanent, which is why I was thinking they were much more related to the Returns.

I definitely do think I am sensing the approach of that Saturn return, even at a bit of a distance, especially if it will dip into Libra in October before going retrograde again--I have always been sensitive to my Saturn.

Glaucus--fascinating, insightful stuff on the plutinos and my transits to them! Hugs and kisses for all the detail. I know you have done a lot of research on them and I have read your stuff while lurking in other threads but I never thought to look at them in my own chart. I have been pondering it all day though, you truly rocked my world.

I found a really good link for those who are interested in them:

http://www.lunarplanner.com/asteroids-dwarfplanets/index.html

Although the transits to my 7th house in particular seem to imply a more interpersonal focus between me and my one-on-one relationships in particular, I can't help but feel there is a message there about being focused on the bigger picture--less about SELF, more about OTHERS. Especially with the Haumea and Orcus transits. With those, I was especially interested in what this site had to say about the connection to a greater purpose in relation to the larger body of humanity.

It's definitely shaping up to be an interesting year. Will "28" be a good year or a bad year? We'll see, I guess. :/

posted September 01, 2009 01:30 AM         

yeah....the transneptunians are no joke. I have been interested in them since 2000 when Varuna was discovered that same year and found out that mine was square my Moon with 10 minutes of arc. Then I even got more interested when Ixion was discovered in 2001 and found out mine was 5 minutes conjunct my Sun and trine my Moon with 2'15 orb. At the time,Ixion was said to break Ceres' record as the largest minor planet. In 2002, the astronomers found Quaoar which was the largest object yet,and I find out that it conjuncts my Sun with 2'58 orb and trine my Moon with 49 minutes of arc. After that, there was no looking back. I was a regular in Zane Stein's Centaurs/Transneptunians yahoo group.
I got very passionate about Transneptunian Astrologer after the discoveries of Orcus,Sedna, Haumea,Eris,and Makemake.
Now I am throwing midpoints to the backburner and focusing a lot more on the transneptunians. I think that transneptunians can fill in the blanks. There might not be need for midpoints. Also if you use midpoints with Pluto, then might as well use midpoints with the other transneptunians. The discoveries of Pluto's fellow transneptunians really complicate the neatly arranged system and status quo of mainstream Astrology. Transneptunian Astrology is the 21st Century Astrology, and I believe that Eris rules that.

Those transneptunian transits that you have definitely indicate that you're going through evolutionary intensifed time. It can be a time of increased spiritual awareness and growth.

"Although the transits to my 7th house in particular seem to imply a more interpersonal focus between me and my one-on-one relationships in particular, I can't help but feel there is a message there about being focused on the bigger picture--less about SELF, more about OTHERS. Especially with the Haumea and Orcus transits. With those, I was especially interested in what this site had to say about the connection to a greater purpose in relation to the larger body of humanity."

with the transneptunian dwarf planet/Plutoid, Makemake conjunct your Sun (the archetypal man) in 7th (relationships), there is a strong possibility that you could end up meeting a man and have a relationship that involves evolutionary intensified experiences that help you grow spiritually. You might feel this person as your soulpartner.

Sun conjunct Makemake is in your current Solar Return and your next Solar Return,and so Makemake energies are central in your 12 month period right now. Makemake is named after fertility god, and so it's connected to fertility. Therefore, be careful that you don't have a pregnancy that you don't want. It can also be a good time for being creative.

also with transiting transneptunian dwarf planet/Plutoid,Haumea conjunct your Jupiter in 7th is also another indicator of that as well. The Jupiter involved is the activated optimism,expansion in the relationship due to Haumea's energies hitting it. Haumea is named after a fertility goddess,and so I caution again to be careful to avoid a pregnancy that you don't want. This can also be a good time for being creative.

Transiting plutino, Orcus conjuncting your Descendant can indicate transformation,intensity in relationships wit....you can draw in an intense,transformative partner. Orcus deals with oaths,promises. Oaths,promises in a relationship. That could fit with making a commitment in a relationship ,and keeping it or not could be a main theme. With Orcus being a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, there can be evolutionary intensified relationship that can help you with spriritual growth. There could be that feeling of finding your soul partner.

make sure that you avoid the negative energies of the following transneptunian objects. They are not called evolutionary intensified objects for nothing.

All this transneptunian energy seems to call for you to be more spiritual and be less interested in the material realm. It seems that you can end up meeting people that will share your spiritual,metaphysical interests.

Transneptunians are highly metaphysically oriented objects because they are objects that orbit beyond Neptune, the planet that is said to dissolve the physical boundaries and to rule mysticism,psychism. Once you get beyond Neptune, you get to "the other side", the hidden, the depths of existence,the occult.

Do you have any natal aspects involving the transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates?

you might want to check these articles on Makemake and Haumea

Makemake

http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/makemake_great_sea_spirit_of_easter_islan d.html

Haumea
http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/haumea_dwarf_planet_and_sacred_nature.html[/UR L]

here is a multiple object Ephemeris to check out the transits of the transneptunian objects
[URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/

here is where you can find your natal positions......you can even find your nodes (,perihelion/aphelion,perigree/apogee as well as Right Ascension,Declinations,Heliocentric,ecliptical latitude
http://www.true-node.com/pos/

Right Ascension and Declination are also coordinates to strongly consider. They are the equatorial longitude and latitude coordinates that astronomers primarily use to locate objects. They are very relevant in Astrology.

Raymond

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�It is absolutely the perfect name,� Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted September 01, 2009 11:09 AM         

I have several natal aspects involving the transneptunians. I had no idea! Thanks for the website, I actually found it somewhat easier to use for calculating aspects than Astro.

Here's what I have within an aspect of 3 degrees or less for conjunction, opposition, or square (didn't look at any other aspects):

North Node conjunct Orcus 2'47

Uranus square Makemake 0'29
True BML square Orcus 1'19
Neptune square Haumea 2'48
BML square Makemake 2'55
Venus square Orcus 2'55

Other interesting but wider aspects:
Chiron square Makemake 3'45
Moon opposition Ixion 3'48
Mars square Ixion 4'02

I will definitely do some more reading and research since these are all over my natal chart. Especially Makemake & Orcus. As if I needed to be anymore Plutonic!

posted September 01, 2009 01:36 PM         

but the smaller transneptunians might be something to look at

according to Philip Sedgwick's site:

currently

transiting Altjira (148780) in 3 Ge 27,and
that's squaring your Ascendant/Descendant axis right now

Altjira: First body taking Aboriginal name.Orbital Period: 293.65 yr.

Positive: Strong sense of purpose/dharma. Solid work ethic. Sense of appropriate position and need for involvement. Aware of As Above, So Below. Feet on ground, head in sky. Visionary. Proactive and energetic.

Negative: Confusion of work/self - I am what I do. Absorbed in work. Impulsive/hesitant.

Mundane: Foot anomalies, job descriptions, dreams, dream interpretation.

Ceremonial: Vision and dream work, meditations involving detachment exercises, remote viewing.

Transiting Teharonhiawako (88611)in 03 Pi 28 Rx
conjunct/oppose your Ascendant/Descendant axis

Teharonhiawako - Orbital Period: 292.71 yr.

Positive - optimistic, gives others the benefit of the doubt, inspires innovative ideas, quirky, skillful in mediation

Negative - naive, gets blind sided, trusts the untrustworthy, fails to apply healthy skepticism

Mundane - treaties and agreements that require good faith, cellular regeneration, racial issues, migrations, expeditions, cellular growth through splitting, cellular fusion and/or bonding, covalent bonding, glue, meteors - especially those bringing matter and material from other worlds, weed killers, varmint hunting and bounties

Ceremonial - anything carrying the theme "All My Relations," creation or regeneration ceremonies, prayers to invoke cellular clearing and healing, processes of culling, thinning or "weeding" out of the negative
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted September 02, 2009 04:43 PM         

I have looked at natal aspects with some of the other major Transneptunians you mentioned and/or what I got off the Sedgewick site and again, looking at close conjunctions, squares, and oppositions only got the following:

Teharonhiawako square Altjira 0'13
North Node square Altjira 0'58
Haumea square Varuna 2'26
Mars square Sedna 2'58

Dark Moon Lilith opposition Sedna 2'57
Teharonhiawako opposition North Node 1'13
Venus opposition Sedna 1'11
Jupiter opposition Eris 0'02
Juno opposition Sedna 2'08

I did have a question for you about the exact Makemake and Haumea fertility transits I'm currently experiencing...I checked the transits for the man I'm currently involved with, and he has transiting Makemake exact conjunct both BML and Saturn right now, which are both exact conjunct my Sun in the 7th house in synastry. Is this significant? Does this mean our Makemake transits are exact conjunct each other through synastry?

I guess what I'm asking is, if this happens to be the man represented by my Sun-Makemake-Haumea-Orcus transits that you mentioned earlier, does this make us super fertile and should I warn him as well? We are not sexually involved yet but quite frankly, it's a possibility within the next few months and so I'm a little paranoid now!

posted September 02, 2009 06:30 PM         

because that's a shared experience transit

that's why close synastry aspects (aspects within 2 degrees) are very significant, because they get a transit at the same time.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted September 02, 2009 07:18 PM         

*Break-out year, leading to the eventual Saturn Return in 2010
*Lots of changes, some of which may be of an intense, spiritual, or transforming nature
*I need to use this energy dynamically and not stay stagnant
*I also need to be cautious with these energies because they are not to be played with and can be challenging
*I may meet someone, a man in particular, who I might feel is a soul partner and who might be involved in some of these intense, consciousness-transforming experiences with me
*Don't get pregnant

Thank you teacher(s)

I am excited, and a little scared, but I think this will be good, so I guess more excited than scared. I'm always up for a challenge.

posted September 02, 2009 07:30 PM         

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Apologies, typo in last post, it should have read 'Glaucus'.

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posted September 02, 2009 09:30 PM         

I just had a flash of brilliance--my "baby" might be my book!

I want to write a book, you see. That's the "career" move I've been hinting at. The one I think is all over my Solar Return chart. Is it to early to post said Solar Return? There's all this 9th house stuff happening there that I think says "Write the damn book!" all over it.

I also have fixed star Castor rising in paran with the Sun, so it is a star of my Youth and brings talent with writing (or so Brady says). I think I am still in Youth, yes? I read that the culminating stars/ Prime phase begins no earlier than 29 and usually in mid-life, right? So I hope I am still in Youth and can gain the benefit of that star. The other important one is Sirius in paran with Mercury in Foundation, which according to Brady

quote:

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is one of the great stars of the sky...a marker of great deeds...the individual may gain fame and glory...giving skill with words, language, and indeed all forms of communication, this stellar combination will influence your career and bring you success in any large communications project or business dealing...quality will depend on natal Mercury..."

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And someone here said that natal Mercury conjunct Pluto was a great aspect for an aspiring writer.

So maybe Makemake/Haumea is about the fertility of mind and not body? We can talk more about the writing/career stuff when I post my solar return because I have other stuff related to that to ask (Algol is lurking around in my chart--sob!)