posted September 01, 2009 08:19 AM         

Anybody having experience in relationship with this combination?

posted September 02, 2009 03:27 AM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted September 02, 2009 10:11 AM         

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posted September 02, 2009 06:32 PM         

if there is a personal planet involved, then yeah.....it is significant. that wasn't mentioned in the thread.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted September 02, 2009 06:36 PM         

transneptunian people even more so with the transneptunians going beyond Neptune. what's complicated is there are thousands of transneptunians though.

if transneptunian,Pluto is significant, then so are his fellow transneptunians, Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Quaoar,Orcus,Varuna,and Ixion.

if it makes me wonder how much does being psychic,emotional sponge,being an empath influence how people are affecting by the biological,energy interaction that they have with others and what about feeling the biological,energy interaction between others. I wonder about differences between what they pick up from others.
what about negativity that they might pick up on a person? That negativity might not be the person being negativity, but it could be the biological,energy interaction between the two.
It seems that complicate the idea of how synastry aspects work.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted September 03, 2009 11:06 PM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted September 04, 2009 09:06 AM         

Glaucus:
Glad to hear that! My sun trine his pluto, i hope it will help alleviate this combination. If you remember responding to my question about nomadic cancer. Want to know if he will be able to find a good job in my city soon...

MVM:
Got a lot of reading to do...

posted September 09, 2009 10:15 PM         

Interestingly, I noticed that in IQ's Soul Mate calculator, he suggests that being born within the same 2 or 3 month period (I can't remember) invalidates the calculator...but I don't see why. Wouldn't it just mean that people born near the same time have more "Soul Mate" aspects, because they will have lots of conjunctions?

Similarly, I don't see why different rules would apply to outer planets than inner ones re: generational aspects, just because they are slower-moving so everyone of a certain age has them.

I don't see how that's ant different than saying that a Sun-Sun conjunction in Aries is invalid because everyone born in early April/late March has this with each other. Why would a higher mathematical likelihood of having the aspect make it suddenly stop operating, and make the planet's energies suddenly not felt?

posted September 10, 2009 12:04 AM         

whole sign aspects were used for a long time. Ptolemy used aspects by sign and not by a precise mathematical separation based on geometry. The use of outerplanets pretty much upset the old system. Uranus = upset.

all objects in our solar system have some significance. After all,everything is connected for everything is energy. outer objects in aspect to each other would have less significance than outer objects in aspect to personal planets,social planets.
They are generational aspects. Those aspects apply to a generation of people. in synastry, it's a generation of people that are in connection with you as part of a generation.

they would require smaller orbs too.

the discoveries of transneptunian objects makes me wonder about the orbs for objects

before transneptunians were discovered, orbs with Pluto were the same orbs with the planets in the solar system. Now we have numerous objects that orbit beyond Neptune found, and I wonder should they get the same orbs as Pluto. It makes me wonder could the orbs for Pluto are actually considerably smaller.

but if we use the same orbs for Pluto as many astrologers give up to 8 degrees for Pluto in a natal chart (heck...Liz Greene even uses 10 degrees), then why not use the same orbs for the 3 other transneptunian dwarf planets (Eris,Makemake,Haumea) which are going to be joined by others (Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion as well as 3 objects that have no names that includes one that is nicknamed "Snow White" What about other dwarf planets that could be under consideration. Also..why even stop there, just because the other transneptunians are small doesn't mean that they don't have influence. After all, Pluto is far smaller than Jupiter. It's smaller than our Moon. Most astrologers swear how powerful Pluto is. Therefore,logic would tell you that if Pluto is very powerful object for its small size compared to the planets, then maybe the smaller transneptunians are very powerful compared to Pluto.

Then there is Ceres. It is dwarf planet. It is far larger than all the other asteroids. There is even some suggestions that Ceres might have some connection with the kuiper belt too,and could actually have some astronomical connections with Pluto. If Pluto in a natal chart gets the same orbs as the planets, then why not Ceres? Also with Ceres orbiting between Mars and Jupiter, why can't Ceres have the same orbs as Jupiter and Saturn in synastry?

I have already admitted in the past that I have some skepticism about mainstream Astrology. I believe that it's outdated. Like Cosmobiologists, I question the influence of houses...especially involving the outer planets. After all, the house system was made traditionally for only the objects up to Saturn. When the outer planets and Pluto was discovered and used, it was more like experimenting. Vedic Astrologers criticize western astrologers for using the outerplanets and Pluto because the outer planets and Pluto travel weren't observed in every sign since their discoveries. Therefore,they are argue that the they weren't time-tested.

I prefer 21st century Astrology which has to do with adjusting to the recent astronomical discoveries. I question certain astrological systems like Magi Astrology that uses Chiron as the only centaur, but there are more than 60 centaurs in our solar system. Over 10 of them have names. These astrologers won't even consider Chariklo which is named after Chiron's wife nor Okyrhoe which is named after their daughter.

The discoveries of transneptunians and the centaurs heralded 21st Century Astrology. The discovery of Eris led to the redefining the solar system and disturbing the old order and help establish a new order with the new classifications,"dwarf planet" and "Plutoids." That led to much debate among not only the astronomical community but also the astrological community. It makes sense for Eris to be ruler of 21st Century Astrology. It seems to have some characteristics of Uranus. Even looking at some of the definitions of the term,eristic seems to be Uranian as well as Martian. That makes me wonder if Eris is either a higher octave of Uranus or some of its potential rulerships were given to Uranus and Aquarius. It's also possible that we gave some of Eris' rulerships to Mars and Aries too. The outerplanets and Pluto took over rulerships of things that were ruled by the traditional bodies used in Astrology. Western Astrology obviously adjusted to the discoveries of astronomers for they included Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto which weren't part of the traditional system of Astrology. Vedic Astrologers don't use the outer planets,and they tend to be viewed as rigid because of that. The same argument can be used for Western Astrologers that don't use the centaurs besides Chiron and transneptunians besides Pluto.
This applies to natal,synastry,composite,transits,and other methods.

if Pluto is important in synastry, then the other transneptunians too. There are over thousands of transneptunians. If Chiron is important in synastry, then so do the 60 other centaurs.

Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"