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Glaucus
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posted September 03, 2009 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Transneptunian Astrology of Serial Killers series

As you know, I am very interested in transneptunian objects besides Pluto......especially the dwarf planets and the dwarf planet candidates. Those are the big objects.


I believe that transneptunian energy can be very difficult to handle because it's a highly metaphysical energy. There can be problems on the physical plane,and it can manifest as being too "out there", nonconformist. In extremes, it can indicate the potential to be very dangerous to self and/or others.


In its positive expression, it can be energy that can be good for being a force for good,and doing great positive things. They can be highly creative people. They can be the trailblazers that explore the unknown of things and come up with discoveries. These people can be profoundly spiritual if they are disciplined,keep their ego in check,master the energy and not let it control them.

I believe that serial killers could be one of the extreme negative types of transneptunian people. Free will is the ultimate factor. They could have chosen the positive expression to be a great force for good and not a great force for evil.


This Transneptunian Astrology of Serial Killers post is on John Wayne Gacy.


John Wayne Gacy, Jr. (March 17, 1942 – May 10, 1994) was an American serial killer.

He was convicted and later executed for the rape and murder of 33 boys and young men between 1972 and his arrest in 1978, 27 of whom he buried in a crawl space under the floor of his house, while others were found in the Des Plaines River. He became notorious as the "Killer Clown" because of the many block parties he threw for his friends and neighbors, entertaining children in a clown suit and makeup, under the name of "Pogo the Clown". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy


March 17, 1942
Chicago,Illinois
12:29 AM

Quaoar in 27'05 Virgo
oppose Moon in 28'49 Pisces
oppose Sun in 25'49 Pisces

Philip Sedgwick's negative keywords for Quaoar:
Negative - doom saying, prophet of Armageddon, controls others with fear

Astronomy of Quaoar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaoar

Mythology of Quaoar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaoar_(deity)

Haumea in 13'08 Leo
oppose Venus in 13'36 Aquarius
sesquiquadrate Moon - 0'41
semisquare Neptune - '27
(Moon,Venus,Neptune,and Haumea are in an 8th harmonic quadrilateral)

Philip Sedgwick's negative keywords for Haumea.
Negative : Insecure and attention demanding. Dramatic. Egocentric. A bully disposition. Forces head-on collisions. Claims martyrdom and sacrifice to secure attention. Willing to attach to someone else’s momentum or allowing dependent sorts to attach to one’s efforts for self benefit (using non-paid volunteers, fans, devotees).

Astronomy of Haumea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(136108)_2003_EL61

Mythology of Haumea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_(mythology)


Sedna 1'17 South
parallel Sun 1'35 South
parallel Moon 1'45 South
contraparallel Neptune 1'48 North

Philip Sedgwick's negative keywords for Sedna:
Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious

Astronomy of Sedna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedna_(astronomical_object)

Mythology of Sedna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedna_(mythology)

John Wayne Gacy has not only the conjunction of Sun and Moon in opposition to Neptune, but he also has the parallel of Sun and Moon contraparallel to Neptune.

His Sun-Moon-Neptune in the ecliptic longitude links to a transneptunian (Quaoar), and his Sun-Moon-Neptune in the declinations links to a transneptunian (Sedna)

Therefore his Sun-Moon-Neptune occultation was highly modified by transneptunians,and so they were involved in evolutionary intensified activity which he couldn't handle and he chose the extreme negative expression in the form of killing others. He could have chosen a path of spirituality,compassion,and service to others.

He had Moon-Neptune links to 3 transneptunians (Quaoar,Sedna,and Haumea)overall.

http://www.philipsedgwick.com/


Raymond


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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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GypseeWind
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posted September 03, 2009 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Geez Louise, another Pisces! And with something in Sag, getting weird.

hmmm, maybe the sag gives them the ability to be outgoing enough to engage other people.

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popcorn
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posted September 03, 2009 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus. You talk about sick people. For me its not astrology. A healthy person could stop it.

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Glaucus
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posted September 03, 2009 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

popcorn,

It psychological astrology,but with the use of transneptunians.

I had Glenn Perry's Astrological Psychology textbooks,and he wrote about serial killers too. Other psychological astrologers have written about serial killers.

It really depends on what a person sees as Astrology. A lot of astrologers don't think Asteroid Astrology is Astrology. A lot of Vedic Astrologers don't think Western Astrology is Astrology.


when it comes to astrological topics that I like to research,write,and post about:


1.Psychological including criminology,psychiatric disorders
2.Neuro-psychological,neurological/learning differences like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD,Autism,Aspergers
3.Medical,health problems
4. Sociological,cultural,race relations
5. Political
6. Evolutionary,Karmic,Pastlives
7. Family Astrology, connections,heredity
8. Relationship Astrology

I like to focus on the transneptunians,asteroids in the topics that I write about.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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Glaucus
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posted September 03, 2009 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Geez Louise, another Pisces! And with something in Sag, getting weird."

Yeah...Richard Ramirez and John Wayne Gacy both were born with Sun and Moon in Pisces.

there are other astrological placements that factor into their psychological makeup.

Free will is the ultimate factor. They had the potential to be strong force for good and be spiritually oriented. They chose the path of evil,and they can't blame it on things like abuse,trauma,and betrayal. Many people go through that,and they don't become serial killers. Many people have strong,hard transneptunian energy,and they don't wind up like them.

Sedna seems to be a deeply shamanic energy. In Inuit mythology, Sedna wasn't just a goddess that ruled sea creatures but she also ruled the underworld that was called "Adlivun."


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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GypseeWind
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posted September 04, 2009 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
And don't forget Aileen warnous, she was Pisces sun too, but I think you said you couldn't find her Asc.

Let me go find where we were talking about her...

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GypseeWind
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posted September 04, 2009 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, you know what occured to me?

Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't put to death, he was murdered in prison! So, remember when you were talking about the charts of the victim and perp being similiar? Look how that turned out, he started being the perp, and ended up the victim.
That chart indicator must be strange in that it really can go either way, and in some cases both ways.
Cause if you look at being put to death, whether right or wrong, that in itself is a violent act. So these serial killers kill, and then they are killed.
I wonder if you know, is that what they really want, death I mean. Maybe killing others is the way they go about insuring their own demise.?
Many of them say that they were relieved when they got caught.

Now I was wondering, Glaucus, if you notice anything different in the charts of the loner serial killers, say; Ramirez, Wournos and Dahmer from the ones that completely manipulate and engage others, like; Bundy, Manson and Gacy.
I realize that is not what you are currently researching, but I just wondered as you've studied this before, you might have noticed something different.

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scrappydog
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posted September 07, 2009 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
Many talented atrologers have written about serial killers and criminals!!! It is fascinating and informative! This is a part of our society wether people want to "see" it or not! There is much knowledge to be gained from beasts/monsters. If you don't like hearing about it then I suggest you hit your browsers back button...But don't ruin it for others and Glaucus I commend you for taking the reins on all that deep, intense scorpio energy inside of you and putting it to good use!

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