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DiandraReborn25
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posted September 05, 2009 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message

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ok...DD you gave me this to post hihihihi

hi all

im trying to study how to look at solar return and interpret it.

i welcome all who can help

So...to what i look first?angles?stelliums?the Sabyan Symbols of some specific planet?

I remember someone saying that if angles conjunt,that means it will be a very important year.but...i dont see that :P

What does pop out of my head when i look at the chart,lets see:

- MERC ( My ruler)is cj my ASC.Merc relates to comunication,travel etc..so this will be a year that i´ll develop my comunication skills?

- ASC cj my natal Neptune.dreams/illusions/fantasy??on what area of life?neptune rules my 6H

- Moon/Pluto cj the Natal Neptune...

- Stellium of jup/kiron/uranus falls on my 5H of romance and fun.it is also the house of children,but i think that the stellium might act on my creativity skills?

- IC/PF are cj my natal VX...something fated will happen,and might reach into my deepest self?or does it mean that my deepest self will be focused on something that it is meant to be?

-DSC is falling into my natal NN/PF.well.im already committed!:P

- MARS is hitting my MC;well this one i like it cause might mean that i will have lots of energy and action torwards my profession goals isnt it?

- the ASC is at Sag,Sag relates to positivity,idealism,travell,it is the sign of philosophics and teatchers.so maybe i will appear more Saggy than Virgo to others?

what else can i look at?

am i looking at it right?

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posted September 05, 2009 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, I wanna still see your natal but can you do a separate image for your SR? I dont like reading it together.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted September 06, 2009 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you!

here they are

NATAL

SOLAR RETURN

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DD
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posted September 06, 2009 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Are you planning to get married, sweetie?


You have Sun, Venus, Vertex in the 8th house (committed relationships; sexual relationships; that kind of relationships where you pay your taxes together ).

You have Mars in the 7th house.

You have Solar DESC on your TRue Node. A relationship that is meant to be, pushing you further on your path?


Solar IC exact on your Vertex in natal 7th house.

Solar Juno almost on your DESC.


Oh and don`t forget the 5th house action.
Jupiter, Chiron Neptune in your 5th house.
Your natal Moon in the 5th Solar house.
Ruler of Solar ASC in your natal 5th house.
ARe you planning on having a baby, or a juicy romance?


Oh and of course this Solar return sais something about creativity, too, and communication.
ASC, Moon, Pluto in your natal 3rd house.

Funny your Solar ASC falls exact on my natal Sun and Mercury.
Oh that reminds me your Solar ASC also is on the Galactic Centre. I could imagine this will be a very significant year for you; with the ruler conjunct Neptune and Chiron in your natal 5th house and Solar 2nd house, I think there could be interesting developments in terms of creativity, romance, but also money and security.
Probably not all easy (Chiron being there), but a healing experience for you, and maybe even almost fairytale like at times (Neptune), but like always with Neptune, be sure you see things clearly.
Neptune also rules the 3rd house in Solar return and your 6th house in natal. As a matter of fact those cusps are exact conjunct.
Makes me think of a writer. You will have the inspiration and the fantasy, and you will be able to put work into it (6th house).

ruler of 3rd house in 2nd house - earning money either through writing or through communicating.


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posted September 06, 2009 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
DD

You re back

OMG!!Did you really saw all that?

marriage?baby?and also transformation of professional life?

i didnt saw nothing when i looked at it... i didnt even knew where to start!

well...im not planning to marriage or have baby this or next year ( though i absolutely want that with Johnny),the thing is that we still are away from each other and John is waiting to see if can be transfered onto here,near me,as soon as possible.

only when that happens is when we can think of that step into the Committed relationship and babies but yes...im so eager to do that of course!!

as a matter of fact i think that he is thinking of that too as sometimes he pops out saying things like " look,i will make an excellent husband.." or "why are you taking the pill?"...things like that and then he looks at me to see what my reaction is..

but with the crisis i dont see that happening so soon...if it happens im more than happy ( walking in the clouds)

When i posted the solar i was thinking of another area of life,the professional one.

im searching job for making money to pay the Fashion Adviser course as you know...i tried to go into stored and offer myself as akind of "intern" of fashion but people dont really want to take a risk nowadays...the word CRISIS is everywhere even if it dont really exists....

im so happy that you are hre you will love the new asteroids i found!

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posted September 06, 2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
HI DD!!!!!

Hi Diandra - nice SR!! ;

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posted September 06, 2009 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
DR,

8.30.1983

2009 is a #1 year in your 9-year cycle. A year of new beginnings, your life will now move into a higher octave. Things that have worked for your in the past will seem outdated. Those which have served their purpose will pass away, hold on and they will be snatched from you. Be bold and take risks, but don't be reckless. Aquarius, Leos & people born on the 1st, 4th, and their multiples will have the most impact this year, maybe even a Taurus. One of these individuals will reveal to you the dominant theme of the coming nine years.

Progressed Mars conj. natal Venus indicates a year of heightened sexual activity within an existing relationship. Or an irresistible new somebody to sweep you off your feet with passion.

9.29.1982 & 8.30.1983

Lifepath 5 & 4 go well together. I don't know when this relationship started, but intellectually they're a match, but five might need more energy than 4 can give. Cohabiting will be far from humdrum, which is good if you thrive on a certain amount of friction in your pairings.

Birthday #3 & Birthday# 2

3 is dynamic and radiating. 2 is an absorber and thrives on the energy it gets from 3.

Should the relationship become unbalanced, the Virgo person will feel drained by the Libra individual.


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posted September 06, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

I am no expert on Solar Returns, but I guess it`s not so different to read than other charts.

Anyway I look out for several things:

1. many planets in certain Solar or natal houses
2. conjunctions either within the Solar or from Solar to natal
3. the Solar ASC and its ruler, placed in natal and Solar house


And then of course you will notice a certain emphasis like in your case on the 5th house; well it does not NEED to mean a baby, it could also be a hobby, a romance or something creative, design would also fall under the 5th house I think.

Anyway, I am wishing you all the best for your professional life and of course for your life with John.

Hello Lara.

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posted September 06, 2009 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara

thank you!

Nine

Hmmm heightened sex within a relationship..that might very well help with getting a baby!

we have been in love since 3 years ago,on Jully 13th.met in person on 8th june.

it is true - i have been feeling that this new year will be important,of new beginings.i also feel myself diferent.im reading a lot,learning how to cope better,to love,to be better etc...so i am more confident.i feel happy about that.

DD

Fashion adviser is a very creative thing i think...relates to Pluto cause it also means transformation of the clients..!it is needed a lot of comunication skills,to have a social life in order for me to meet the right persons on the right place also..

dont get me wrong..i want a baby and want to marry and all those romantic things...i think is that if it happens now,i would be scared cause i have no finantial stability right now...

how are you,dear?

PS I added two asteroids..ceres and Child.

looks like

SR Ceres is cj my N ASC
SR jup and KIRON are cj N.CERES
SR MARS is cj N. CHILD...

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posted September 06, 2009 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Well...the fastest way to see is looking at J´s SR too!

if he shows a marriage/baby...then it is very likely then...

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posted September 06, 2009 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

I think the Solar Return just highlights theme that will be prominent; what you make of them, is up to you. And of course I understand that you want to have financial security. The basis must be right. That is for sure.

I am pretty well actually. I ahve had that one day vocal training seminar yesterday, and it was a great experience. I really enjoyed it.

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posted September 06, 2009 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
awwww i love this thread! It has two of my favourite people in it.
DD, i've missed you... in fact i have hardly posted since you've been gone. A light went out when you left LL. X

Diandra - i check my SR for the years i got married and had kids - just cos i thought it might give some pointers for you.
Here's what i found:

1st marriage
SR VERTEX cj exact SR DC
SR PSYCHE cj exact N AC
SR VALENTINE cj EXACT N DC
SR AC ruler cj N AC ruler
SR sun opp EXACT N juno/karma
N AC ruler opp SR AC
SR VERTEX cj N AC ruler

2nd marriage
SR SATURN cj exact N SUN
SR PSYCHE cj exact N AC
SR sun opp EXACT N juno/karma
SR IC cj N VERTEX

1st child
SR venus in N 4th
SR AC in N 5th
SR IC/MOON in N 7th

2nd child
SR MOON cj N IC
SR NN in N 5th
SR Valentine cj N destinn
SR Neptune cj exact N AC
SR AC cj N AC

3rd child
SR IC cj N mars/union
SR destinn in N 4th
N AC ruler in SR 1st
SR AC cj N destinn!

Anything else you'd like me to look up?

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posted September 06, 2009 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
DD

really?i didnt knew you were taking those classes! it is fantastic when we discover sth that we deeply enjoy isnt it?takes us onto new adventures and horizonts!

Lara

i loved your 1st SR Marriage-you had valentine cj DSC-was it true love?hmm seems that whenever you had a child the Moon was always involved with IC.

usuallt marriages are also associated with Moon and 7House..

you re a dear on looking at your own to help me!

i dont really know what to look for hihihi

I Want it all!marriage,babies,Jonh here with me and a new professional life!Hmm i know i know it is very unlikely that a person gets all that wants isnt it?

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posted September 07, 2009 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

that really touched me.

Well, LL`s Pluto is exactly on my NN - you don`t just walk away so easily from a relationship like that.


Anyway, LL was starting to keep me from living my life; and I can`t have that happen. So I guess I just need to take care that I don`t come here too often.


Diandra,

it was just a weekend seminar. But it was great.

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posted September 07, 2009 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

your SR`s are a treasurebox to learn what to expect form certain aspects in SR.


1st marriage
SR VERTEX cj exact SR DC
SR VALENTINE cj EXACT N DC
SR AC ruler cj N AC ruler
SR sun opp EXACT N juno/karma
N AC ruler opp SR AC
SR VERTEX cj N AC ruler

- I feel that these specifically relate to marriage, especially the DESC connections. The ASC ones indicate that this is a really important year. (no matter how worse it became)

2nd marriage
SR SATURN cj exact N SUN
SR sun opp EXACT N juno/karma
SR IC cj N VERTEX

- so Juno AGAIN plays a role. In your case there is also Psyche connected to ASC in both cases, which I find interesting.
Oh and Vertex in contact to an angle seems significant, too.

Judging from your marriage SR`s it seems that we should look out for:

- Juno- Sun (even though of course in your case Sun seems to be aspected by Juno natally, therefore it will always connect to the SR Sun

-Vertex to an angle


interesting about that Saturn-Sun-conjunction; was that m arriage more karmic or restrictive or binding or lasting than the first one?

1st child
SR venus in N 4th
SR AC in N 5th
SR IC/MOON in N 7th

- 4th, 5th and Moon - just as we would expect.

2nd child
SR MOON cj N IC
SR NN in N 5th

- Moon, 4th and 5th AGAIN


3rd child
SR IC cj N mars/union
SR destinn in N 4th
N AC ruler in SR 1st
SR AC cj N destinn!

- IC again, no 5th house involvement? I am surprised.

Anyway the very strong ASC-connections seem to indicatet he major importance of this year.

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posted September 07, 2009 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
DD

john is going right nnow on a plane from portugal to taiwan on a business trip...you dont see anything wrong in his chart,do you?it will be ok right?

merc is retro...dont merc relates to travells too?

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posted September 07, 2009 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Don`t worry, Diandra.

I am having Transit Uranus squaring Mercury; and Uranus rules my natal 3rd house and is placed in the 3rd house. It is also squaring Sun, which rules the 9th house (far travel). And it has doing so forquite some time.

I have been going to London, ,and sure there were some surprises along the way, but I have made it back healthy.

So I think John will be okay, too, even without looking at hischart.

Maybe he wille xperience some trouble with his mobile for example. I tend to misplace mine everytime Mercury goes retograde, EVERY single time.


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posted September 07, 2009 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Thank God DD!!

I believe in You.

everytime merc goes retro i worry too much,...it will be a 12hr trip so that is why i didnt slep this night...right today the day 1st of merc retro...pufff

really john is having some problems with the machines and pc+s there at work...that is tought as now he is going to try to sign a contract for a very important client!then again....merc retro..not good for signing contracts isnt it?

but JOhn has retro merc in natal,so that migh ease this problem.

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posted September 07, 2009 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra, my turn! I want to try to read too, esp since you just read for me !!!
I didn't want to be too influenced by the other posts, so I didn't read them...so if I'm repeating anything that's been said...sorry! I'm just trying to follow my intuition and tell you what I get

I think back to when I married, and I had Vertex conjunct Venus in either my SR or my Venus Return chart
If not marriage strictly, I would definitely say that things are going to be stepped up on a relationship level. Your SR feels highly relationship-oriented...the 8th house stuff feels like the sharing of things, or some kind of joint purchase...a home or something? It also looks like there's a clearer level of how to deal with emotions.

I just get a strong sense of things feeling more solid for you this year as far as feelings and relationship progress... definite steps look like they're being taken. I think it looks awesome

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posted September 07, 2009 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
MVM

now you can read the other posts hihihi

thank you for your intuition - it says the same as DD said and Lara hihihihi

a more definite step on relationship and focus on 5h HOUSE issues also.

im remembering sth...quite a few weeks ago,maybe a few months really,someone said that same thing,wasnt you?

that felt that me and john´s relatisonhip would be more committed or that you felt that sth would happen that would make things clear on that area of life?

i got to search i dont know what thread it was.

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posted September 07, 2009 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra, I don't remember! What did I say? Sometimes I 'read' and forget what I say LOL!
I'm glad we're all saying the same thing here though... it looks very good for you and your man, I feel this is going to be a huge year

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posted September 07, 2009 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

I hope you don´t mind if I put up my Solar Return here, as I would like to have your input on this, especially in terms of personal life (as opposed to job, career).


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posted September 07, 2009 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
hi DD

well lets try even if i perfeclty know you are way more better !

take it with a graint of salt.

SR ASC is in Aries falling into your IC-you might be focused on matters of Home and Family.it is cj kiron so maybe a bit of wounding might be appearing?but also a way that you can be healed.

its ruler is Aries.placed on SR 9th house of travel and meetings.there is a stellium there with pluto/sun/psych/PF.
SO it might be a year with travelling/journeys/new philosophies/horzizonts expanding...

it is falling in your 1st,cj sun/merc. Maybe you will develop a new image of yourself,through journyes?through a new self-awareness when you travel or meet other religions?

SR MC/Merc cj your N.VENUS :can this mean that you will meet someone significant in your place of work?or also expand your interest to arts/beauty and venusian themes?

Stellium SR Jup/Ve/NN/Krion/nep (11H)falling in your 2nd. cj your n.Moon.
SO your NN/Ven in 11h.did you met someone in social life/group that has made you tickle?

jup is there and also kiron,you might meet new friends,create more social movement around you.it is mixed with your Moon,so you might feel some wound regarding your emotional side ( kiron cj moon).maybe in the beggining you might not feel so at ease?but then it will make you feel more secure,gaining self-confidence and valued for who you are(2nd house)

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posted September 07, 2009 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
SR Valentine falling into your 7H with karma there...hmmm you might meet a significant one in your immediate environment?someone destined?(karma there).

SR Moon falling into your 9H so again focus on travell and hight education.saturn there too...and as they are in the 6H might be associaded with work?

SR DSC cj PF Pluto is there too in the natal in the 10h of career.you might meet someone there who will transform (pluto)your marital status???

SR Karma/kaali/VX in MC is cj N.Pluto - then again...transformation/renewal on your career and professional life,but associated with destiny.Sth might happen that can awake your feminine deep energies of kaali?

-N.Saturn/eros/VX falling into your 4TH-another focus on your home/family.

-SR EROS on your n.ASC/MARS/NN/NEP

UHUHU...does this means what im thinking?

Someone(with 8h charactheristics) might appear to you,awaking your erotic energies.it will activate your mars(sexual energy),yourself deep(asc),neptune(making you dream,fantasize).and as it is there your NN..might be someone from the Past.

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posted September 07, 2009 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message

"even if i perfeclty know you are way more better !"
No way. You are great at this. Just trust your intuition.

"SR ASC is in Aries falling into your IC-you might be focused on matters of Home and Family"
Yes. Definitely.
WE have decided that we will do some work at our house and renovate it, pull in another wall, make it two separate units, becuase it is too big for my parents alone, but we do not want to lose the house. So when it is all done, I will move back there, just in my own part of the house, with separating walls to my parents, but direct neighbourhood.
Actually I wouldn´t be surprised if that happened, when Transit Uranus will be crossing my IC. lol

The SR ASC is also exact on my Draco Sun, and I feel like I learned a lot about the Aries side of my personality. lol

I feel Chiron is too far away though (6 degrees).


"s ruler is Aries.placed on SR 9th house of travel and meetings.there is a stellium there with pluto/sun/psych/PF.
SO it might be a year with travelling/journeys/new philosophies/horzizonts expanding..."
Definitely. BTW did I ever tell you about my trip to London and seeing Hamlet?
Yes, this trip definitely changed me.
I also feel like, some dormant "psychic" sense might have been awaken more fully. I can`t explain my dreams and hunches otherwise. I just seem to know some things I really can`t know.


"Maybe you will develop a new image of yourself,through journyes?through a new self-awareness when you travel or meet other religions?"
Yes, absolutely.
Also, that visit of Canterbury Cathedral was very significant for me. So it is not so much OTHER religions but my old one.


"R MC/Merc cj your N.VENUS :can this mean that you will meet someone significant in your place of work?or also expand your interest to arts/beauty and venusian themes?"
Interestingly my progressed ASC is there, too.
Well, venusian themes have been on the forefront; no potential romance at work though.


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