posted September 09, 2009 10:12 AM         

I have calculated a bit and checked past years, and it indeed seems to be VERY Symbolic.

For example, the year I was living in a dream most of the time and at the same time got in contact with my spiritual side and also stumbled over Linda Goodman`s books, which set some thought process in motion, I was having in solar arc:

SA Venus exact on my Sun-Moon-mp and opposing Vertex

SA Uranus (and Transit Pluto) squaring my
Moon

SA Jupiter square Sun (yes, I did tend to overindulge.lol)

SA Neptune conjunct Mercury

SA Neptune conjunct Sun!

SA NN conjunct Mercury

SA NN conjunct Sun

posted September 09, 2009 11:06 AM         

And may I say Ms Dreamer it is great to 'see' you back!

posted September 09, 2009 11:11 AM         

Oh and I love that picture; my best friend actually is a dancer.

EDIT:
I just realized that I seemingly am having a highly "Uranian" time right now.

SA Uranus conjunct ASC (0°13 a)
SA Uranus = Sun/Moon-mp (0°17 s)
SA Uranus = Vertex (0°20 s)
SA Uranus = Eros (0°48 s)

SA Sun square Uranus (0°02 a)

OH and of course Transit Uranus is still exactly squaring my Sun-Mercury-conjunction in Sagittarius in 1st house (Mercury is my DESC-ruler).

Interesting.

I wonder what that means.

posted September 09, 2009 03:51 PM         

I guess one can do SA/NATAL in synastry and so i looked up the date my man told me l was the one for him and i found:

his SA sun cj my N valentine 1'
his SA moon cj my N AC/aphrodite 1'
his SA venus cj my N vertex 0'
his SA saturn cj my N isis/mars 1'
his SA pluto opp my sun/moon midpoint exact
his SA pluto cj my N ceres 1'
his SA NN cj my N lara/utopia 0'
his SA NN cj exact my progressed SUN/UNION
his SA NN cj exact my SA sun lol
(we have a DW sun/utopia in synastry tropicals)
his SA AC cj my N pluto 1'
his SA AC opp my N DNA 2'

my SA sun cj his N sun 1'
my SA moon opp his N vertex 0'
my SA venus opp his N vertex 0'
my SA saturn cj his N LARA 1'
my SA pluto opp his N cupid/utopia
my SA NN cj his N LARA 1'

WOWEE!!!

posted September 09, 2009 04:16 PM         

lol, guess what I have been doing the last hour?
Yes compared the SA to someone else`s natal and vice versa.
Actually with Solar ARc I agree with Noel Tyl and some others in using the square, opposition, conjunction, semisquare and sesisquare, as those are the aspects that describe that something could "happen" (trine and sextile are more like comforting cushions in the background).

And yes, of course we can compare SA to someone else`s natal. It works the same way as secondary progressions do.
They tell us, where we are standing right now.

In my SA directed synastry I stumbled about these things: (of course only aspects under 1 degree):

my SA Moon opposite his Destinn
my SA Venus opposite his Sun (0-10 a)
my SA Venus = his Venus / Pluto
my SA Mars = his Eros / Psyche (conj)
my SA Mars semisquare his Venus
my SA Saturn square his Mars
my SA Vertex = his Eros / Psyche
my SA ASC = his Eros / Psyche (conj.)
my SA MC conjunct his Saturn
my SA Venus/Uranus = his Venus

his SA Sun square my Mars
his SA Sun semisquare my Vertex
his SA Sun semisquare my Eros (0-03 a)
his SA Sun= my Sun/Moon
his SA Venus=my Venus/Mars
- lol, he triggers Sun/Moon-mp AND Venus/Mars-mp in me, for the time being
his SA Saturn conjunct my Mars
his SA Pluto = my Venus/Pluto (conj.)
his SA Karma = my Moon / Venus
his SA ERos conjunct my Venus
his SA Venus/URanus= my Sun
his SA Venus/Pluto = my Vertex (0°04 s.)
his SA Venus/Pluto = my ASC

(as you can see I have really gotten into midpoints; they are just astonishing, especially with predictive techniques; I have used them only with transits so far, but I guess they work with Solar Arc, too; at least some astrologers think they do.lol)

EDIT:

Looking up some of the midpoints:

my SA Venus opposite his Sun (0-10 a)
Love of a man. To experience sympathy or affection. Attraction to a person. To experience pleasure. In harmony with the body. Personal power of attraction

my SA Venus = his Venus / Pluto
his SA Pluto = my Venus / Pluto (conj.)
Growing sympathies. Increasing attraction. Development of a love.

my SA Mars semisquare his Venus
his SA Venus= my Venus/Mars
To arouse sympathy or attraction. To give pleasure. To act out of love. Donation. Passion. To enjoy doing something. Pleasant work. To pursue a hobby. Blood relative. Sexuality. Artistic activity

my SA Saturn square his Mars
proceeds methodically. persistent. disciplined. careful. cautious. pragmatic. stops at nothing.
Concentrated or focused work. Long-lasting activity. To work with problems. To effect a separation

my SA Venus/Uranus = his Venus
falls in love quickly. gains sympathy quickly. erotically refined.
Unexpected love. Surprising attraction

his SA Sun= my Sun/Moon
Body and soul. Husband and wife. Complementary partnership

his SA Venus/URanus= my Sun
evokes sympathy quickly. Sudden attraction of a man. Love at first sight. Pleasant surprise. Unexpected pleasure.

his SA Venus/Pluto = my ASC
highly attractive. affectionate. sensual. capable of being loving.
Development of affection in a partnership. Transformation due to love.

Those interpretations are from the uranian astrology, and they see Pluto more as a sign of development and growth. I still think Pluto has much to do with passion and intensity, too.

posted September 09, 2009 04:39 PM         

SA Sun square Uranus (0-02)
SA Venus semisquare Sun
SA Mars = Moon / Mars (conj.)
SA Jupiter square Saturn
SA Saturn = Venus / Pluto
SA Uranus conjunct ASC (0-13)
SA Uranus sesisquare Vertex
SA Uranus = Sun/Moon (0-17)
SA Vertex = Moon / Mars
SA Karma conjunct Vertex (0-01a!)
SA Karma conjunct Eros
SA Karma opposite Sun/Moon (0-04a)

posted September 09, 2009 04:45 PM         

SA Sun square Uranus
Transit Uranus square Sun
natal Sun = natal Mars/Saturn on 26 Virgo, which is conjuncted by TR Saturn and opposed by TR uranus

*sighs* I hate to admit it, but sometimes I get worried, when reading those interpretations.
They are very oldfashioned also.

Anyway, if you want, I can look up your interpretations for you.
They are mostly for events (Transit or Solar Arc), but you can transfer the meaning to natal or synastry as well.

I am not completely satisfied with it, as I think there is a difference if you have Uranus = Sun/Moon or Moon = Sun/Uranus for example.

In the first case that Uranus would trigger your inner Yin-Yang-feelings.
In the second case it would be a short time (transit Moon) where you become very independent and strive for self expression without compromise.
Definitely a difference in my book.

Well, maybe I am going to write a book about that subject. lol

EDIT:
Interestingly my SA Venus is on the EXACT same degree as my Venus-NN-conjunction in the Solar Return.
11 Aquarius
On A Vast Staircase Stand People Of Different Types, Graduated Upward

Well, the NN of the SR is actually on 10 Aquarius
During A Silent Hour, A Man Receives A New Inspiration Which May Change His Life

Even more interestingly, that guy I compared the synastry with has his Sun on 11 Leo (and his Psyche on 11 Aquarius).
I guess he is some kind of catlyst for me.

posted September 09, 2009 04:52 PM         

Are you thinking about change? hmmm

I sense change in you.

posted September 09, 2009 05:05 PM         

Like going to London - I know it is no big deal for other people, but for me it was a HUGE step, or more a leap. And so many suprising things happened while being there, some really stressed me out. like the hotel saying my credit card was being invalid. Can you imagine how you feel, hearing that in a foreign country? lol Luckily they realized it was their mistake and upgraded my room. Yet, I asked them to change the room back, cause I didn`t want to live so far under the earth. That was unusual, too. I have never ASKED for something like that before, I always just tried to put up with what I have been given.

Now that decision to visit this convention, being held here in Germany. Very unusual for me. That`s for sure.

But in some way I feel better if I let Uranus have his way. I remember I had tried to resisted him, when he was transiting over my Moon, and I was feeling dizzy ALL the time - well, until I gave in and made that trip to Paris back then. On my own. To meet people I only met through the internet.
And back t hen things went a bit wrong, too. When Iarrived in Paris, they told me that they had forgotten to book a room for me. lol
Well, the woman I had met up with from a forum offered me to share her double room with her, and I did. Very unusual.

Something similiar is happeningn ow. There was a misunderstanding (Mercury r?) and so it came that I am having now a Double room, but having to share it with a complete stranger.
I must be nuts to do something like that. lol
Anyway, if I have a bad feeling, I will just spontaneiously decide to only stay a day and go back home after that (the train only takes 2 hours, so I could find other ways).

But yes I am constantly wondering about myself: have I completely lost my mind?

Oh and sleeping, I donīt do it so well; I am much too awake most of the time, almost hyper.
Very atypical.

Oh well, except for shortly before going into bed; about 11:30 pm. or so, I feel that need to sit down in my armchair, listen to some music in the dark and whenever I do that I drift away. Do not ask me w here I am during those minutes, but it feels refreshing. And usually I surface with new energy and new questions and new answers again.
It`s like my body and soul DEMAND this time to be spent with my Higher Self I guess.

posted September 09, 2009 05:11 PM         

I've got (1 degree or less) :

*My SA Moon is conjunct his natal Asc
*My SA Jupiter conjunct his natal MC
*My SA vertex conjunct his n Dcs (would that count?)
*My SA Chiron conjunct his n Asc
*My SA Lilith conjunct his n Sun
*My SA NN conjunct his n Sun
*My SA Saturn oppose his n Sun
*MY SA Venus conjunct his n Neptune

posted September 09, 2009 05:23 PM         

The natal will always be in the background, but the predictive tools like secondary progressions or Solar Arc capture the development of the people involved, and will highlight certain areas or connections.

Paul Westran even mentioned once that synastric aspects through progressions are more intensely felt as natal ones, which are always there. The Drawback is that the progressions and directions donīt last forever.
But it surely explains some shortlived attractions.

posted September 09, 2009 05:30 PM         

Noel Tyl suggests these steps for an exact timing:

1) Look up the month(s) the aspect / arc is partile / exact.

2) Look up when the pr Moon and Transits will be exactly triggering that, and this will be a very likely time for some event to take place.

posted September 09, 2009 05:55 PM         

keep in mind that in medical astrology, hard aspects (conj,oppose,square,semisquare,and sesquiquadrate) and midpoint configurations are looked at for potential health problems.
they look at 6th and 12th houses or other houses that are used to look at medical stuff. They don't use house systems like we do. Well.....Cosmobiologists don't. Uranian Astrologers use very unique type of house systems.

shrugs

I don't think Brummmond's interpretations are gloomy. She has both negative and positive interpretations for the configurations. Many of them include event,mundane interpretations as well as medical stuff.

They are just a bunch of possibilities. I always stress that when I give interpretations for a configuration.

if you want to know a book with gloomy interpretations,

how about Witte's Rulebook of Planetary Pictures?

even Ebertin's COSI can be gloomy too.

I think Brummond's Rulebook is a lot more modern and psychological as overall varied in her interpretations compared to the other 2 books.

most of the Saturn and Neptune stuff are very negative in the older 2 books.
Saturn/Neptune midpoint pictures and hard Saturn-Neptune aspect are said to connected to chronic health problems.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 06:02 PM         

when they are triggered by transits, it can indicate a specific event.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"