posted September 09, 2009 11:20 AM         

I was also asked out on a date which we are still trying to organise a time that suits us both (is this a sign of things to come?!)

On top of that my ex ex (ex before the last ex) contacted me.. and my ex who i work with, especially today, seemed to be giving me a lot of attention but that could be due to other factors too (again, complex).. but either way.. its just weird.

My first thought was .. what transits am I going through ?! lol

So, is there an "attractiveness" or "magnetism" transit ??

I'll post my chart w/ transits from last Wednseday when it seemed very strong

The only thing I can see is the gang of three STILL hovering over my ASC .. I don't see how that relates to attractiveness though, especially seeing as Chiron is exact cj my ASC.

tValentine is cj my Union/DC conjunction. .. again.. not really attractiveness?

tPan and tVenus are conjunct my Sun/Moon mp (at 6 Leo)

tPluto is cj nNeptune setting off my Yod (neptune sext pluto, both quincunx chiron) .. but i cant see how that would be affecting it either..

tPluto conjunct nEros ... hmm interesting!!

I just can't put my finger on what it would be though!!! I have been through this before, and I go through dry spells too which is why I am wondering if it's to do with transits. Nothing's sticking out though.. did I put in the wrong asteroids?

Amor - well thats not necessarily sexual, but ideal love
Lust - self explanatory
Valentine - self explanatory
Adonis - magnetism .. love like you have been put under a spelll ...
Eros - self explanatory
Psyche - psychic connection, love that persists, soul connection
Aphrodite - love and attraction that is impulsive
Pan - seductive and earthy sensuality..
Vesta - warm fuzzy feelings, comfort, spiritual sex
Juno - marriage partnership and collaboration
Sappho - sexual attraction
Cupido - look of looove like being shot thru the heart with a love arrow I guess !

someone posted on here all these asteroid interps..(well I kind of reworded them lol) .. thanks to whoever you are!!!

So, any thoughts???

posted September 09, 2009 11:32 AM         

Aphrodite fell off the list I think

Natal Aphrodite: 7 deg 52 Cancer

Transiting Aphrodite: 14 deg 33 Gemini

posted September 09, 2009 11:41 AM         

Nice transit! Check Venus and Jupiter in your progressed chart too.

Jupiter near your AC gives you confidence, so you generally feel good about yourself. This in turn makes people feel good about you. So, that could be it! I am sure there are other transits to signify this, but tJupiter jumped up at me.

posted September 09, 2009 12:18 PM         

Progressed Jupiter = 11 Cap
Progressed Venus = 14 Gemini

I can definitely feel confidence .. almost .. glowing ? But of course I have bad days too when I am feeling sooo tired (which was most of last week!) and still .. all this attention!

Yay for Jupiter!

Had my hair done 2 weeks ago .. that could be helping too

Definitely been going through a cleansing/changing period lately. Lost weight as well (woohoo) ... maybe its not transits after all? or a bit of both?

the cleansing/change could also be due to the GO3 on my ASC ... and because Jupiter is one of the gang members.. has inspired renewed confidence that's being projected (due to cj ASC) ..? sound crazy?

posted September 09, 2009 12:20 PM         

Transiting retrograde Neptune in 24'28 Aquarius in your 1st is in an applying conjunction/opposition to your Ascendant/Descendant axis. That might indicate that you can be more charming to others in a dreamy,otherworldly type way. too much idealism,deception,illusion,and too much romanticism are things to avoid during that transit. It could be a very karmic transit...especially drawing in people from the past (whether in regards to present life or past life).

I looked at any transneptunian transits that could be aspecting your personal planets,angles.

Transiting 2002 AW197 is in 21'23 Leo and that's oppose/conjunct your Ascendant/Descendant axis less than 2 degrees. It's direct,and so it's an applying transit. It's heading towards exactitude.

it's a big transneptunian,and so it's a dwarf planet candidate.

according to Philip Sedgwick who gets insights into an object by its astronomical,orbital features as well as looking at the sign placement of both its heliocentric north node and perihelion at the time of its discovery:

55565 (2002 AW197) - Orbital Period: 325.50 yr.

Positive: Resourceful, able to manage the mundane. A magical sense of alchemy. A shamanic knowing of the relationship of energy and matter.

Negative: Greedy, manipulative via monetary means, financially controlling.

Mundane: Financial fraud, black magic, fiscal exploitation.

Ceremonial: Prosperity ceremonies, energy work, moving matter with vibration for a benefic result.
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

astronomy:

(55565) 2002 AW197 is a trans-Neptunian object (TNO). It was discovered in 2002 by Michael E. Brown et al. It is classified as a cubewano.

Measurements with the Spitzer Space Telescope have confirmed 2002 AW197 as a reliable dwarf planet candidate. It is located near the Kuiper cliff.

Observations of thermal emissions by the Spitzer Space Telescope in 2007 give a diameter of 734+116−108 km[2] and an albedo of 0.117+.04−.03.[2] The lower size estimate for a dwarf planet is about 400 km.[8]

[edit] Surface

ESO analysis of spectra reveals a strong red slope and no presence of water ice (in contrast to Quaoar, also red) suggesting organic material (see comparison of colours and typical composition inferred from spectra of the TNOs).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_AW197

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 12:41 PM         

edit: I felt tSaturn on my Sun whether it was separating or advancing, even now I am still feeling the remnants of that tSaturn, at 4 degrees separating. But the intensity was definitely felt more when it was directly conjunct.

posted September 09, 2009 12:44 PM         

I don't understand how Chiron cj ASC can indicate attraction/magnetism? From what I know of Chiron - deals with past wounds which are hard to heal. My own natal Chiron is currently being activated by the Pluto transit (activating the yod in the chart between nNeptune, nPluto and nChiron) ... haven't been having the best of times lately. So, that's why I have been curious as to what on earth is happening! lol

These transneptunian planets are very intriguing!
The only thing I can think of to do with money is my horrible management of money... if anything .. financial lack of control!

Yes I am feeling more in control of energy movements. I'm doing a lot of that regarding my situation at work. Also I took heed of the I-Ching that I also did in early August (my work colleague did it with me and translated it!) and so it's making the work situation a bit better... with the ex. I am reading the situations as they present themselves and most of the time act accordingly, rather than instinctively/emotionally like I normally do. I hope this stays for a while because it's making life easier!

posted September 09, 2009 12:52 PM         

also transiting retrograde Neptune is in her 1st house in an applying conjunction/opposition to her Ascendant/Descendant axis. I am thinking that could be it....especially with Neptune known as higher octave of Venus. Therefore, she could be dreamy,otherworldly attractive to others. with the Neptune being in her 1st house and conjunct the Ascendant, Neptune energy effects the appearance.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 12:52 PM         

also transiting retrograde Neptune is in her 1st house in an applying conjunction/opposition to her Ascendant/Descendant axis. I am thinking that could be it....especially with Neptune known as higher octave of Venus. Therefore, she could be dreamy,otherworldly attractive to others. with the Neptune being in her 1st house and conjunct the Ascendant, Neptune energy effects the appearance.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 01:01 PM         

according to Philip Sedgwick

Chiron: The wounded healer who possesses insight, wisdom and grace. Orbital Period: 50.27 yr.

Positive - healing, just, wise, fair, insightful, knowledgeable, skilled in arts, medicine, healing, philosophy, focused, positively full of one’s self, sense of soul’s purpose

Negative - opinionated, teaching others the lessons needed by oneself, wounding, corrupt, illicit, irritating demeanor, clinging, feeling homely or unwanted, estranged from parents

Mundane - healing of all types from allopathic medicine and surgery to chiropractic and all forms of homeopathy and naturopathy, soul retrieval, justice, mentoring programs, cave exploration, illegitimate offspring, archery

Ceremonial - soul retrieval, any natural healing modality, chiropractors, retreats - especially in caves, ceremonial chambers or kivas, making a talking stick or ceremonial arrow

Chiron's positively full of one’s self, sense of soul’s purpose can make one attractive to others. It can feel like being confident and sure of one's self that it makes the person seem very attractive.

also 2002 AW197's magical sense of alchemy might also be connected....like in an almost magical type of way in your attracting others.

transneptunians in general can have a magnetic way about them. You see it with Pluto, but Pluto isn't the only transneptunian. If Pluto has that magnetism,it would make sense for the other transneptunians could have that too.......especially if aspecting the Ascendant/Descendant like 2002 AW197 does in your case.

I do think that it's mainly transiting retrograde Neptune in 1st conjuncting your Ascendant.

Neptune and Jupiter have some similarities. That's why they are co-rulers of Pisces and 12th house.

the affects of Neptune can feel like Jupiter. The big difference is that Neptune is otherworldly,inspirational,dreamy, and it goes beyond physical boundaries. Jupiter is not like that.

also transiting retrograde Sedna in 21'56 Taurus has been conjuncting your Sun. It's separating conjunction transit though. I'd keep an eye on that transit though....especially when Sedna stations and then goes direct. It seems to have strong similarities with Neptune, but it's more otherworldly and remote.....especially when you consider that it's the most distant object in our solar system when it is at aphelion (the point of the orbit of an object that is most distant from the Sun). Because it's so far away and cold, astronomers named it after the Inuit sea goddess that lived in the depths of the frigid Arctic Ocean. She also ruled the underworld called Adlivun. So there might be a Pluto-like influence about Sedna.
so Sedna might have an otherworldly Neptune-Pluto influence.

Sedna - She is the first body to bear the mythology of the arctic's Inuit culture. Orbital Period: 11,013.05 yr.

Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of life

Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious

Mundane - blubber, products made from sea mammals, whaling, diving bells that go into the dark of the sea, emotional healing, forgiveness, sorrow, engagement, masks, flight of the birds

Ceremonial - cleansing in the sea, propitiation to the sea, sea creatures, use of sea creature talismans (walrus tusk carvings, scrimshaw), ceremony with masks of sea creatures, ceremonial masks in general

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 01:10 PM         

It's not that Neptune is related to appearance.
that's not the point

the point is that it's in your 1st house (appearance,self,persona) conjuncting your Ascendant (appearance,self,persona) and opposing your Descendant (others,relationships)

and the transit is applying.....that means that it's heading towards exactitude.

Ascendant/Descendant is the personal interaction with others axis. Some say that it's the environment that the person is in.

I re-edited the post before this one.
I included stuff on transiting retrograde Sedna conjunct your Sun.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 01:12 PM         

quote:

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Neptune is otherworldly,inspirational,dreamy, and it goes beyond physical boundaries. Jupiter is not like that.

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posted September 09, 2009 01:16 PM         

It all sounds like a lot of fun.

I got this line from here.

It's the beauty side that Glaucus speaks of.

quote:

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Neptune refines, purifies, sensitizes, until there is nothing crude or coarse left in us. As a planet of perfection, Neptune visions a better world, full of beauty, brotherly love, harmony and unity.

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posted September 09, 2009 01:19 PM         

hmm being deceived eh? Yep... I just assumed it was something to do with the chiron transit which hurt me lol (definitely hurt by something that deeply affected me) .. I still have a ways to go with interps.
I am dealing with it though, utlising the energy from 2002 AW197 transitting my DC

I'll have another look tomorrow its 1:20am and I have work in the morning! thanks so much for ur insights Unmoved and Raymond XD

posted September 09, 2009 01:36 PM         

in regards to attractiveness, and a certain sense of "glamour", wouldn´t Mme Chariklo (sp?) have more to say about this than her dear husband Chiron?

Anyway I definitely agree about Neptune. This one and his smoothing, alluring qualities is not to be underestimated.

posted September 09, 2009 05:34 PM         

well.....they both can be attractive in their own way.

also...she doesn't have any close Chariklo transits like she has a close Chiron conjunction to her Ascendant.

I think the Neptune transit conjunction/opposition to her Ascendant fits more with what she's talking about. I think that transneptunian in opposition/conjunct her Ascendant/Descendant axis does too.

it really depends on the individual chart.

I think that a transit to the Ascendant/Descendant axis would be more about the attraction than the Sun or Mercury would be for the Ascendant/Descendant is the personal interaction with others axis.

I tend to use narrower orbs with transits for timing events.

In psychological astrology, wider orb transits seem to be the usual thing

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 05:50 PM         

for me personally,

conjunction,opposition,square,trine - 3 degree orb applying, 1 degree separating
sextile - 2 degree orb applying, less than 1 degree orb separting

I'd give a considerably smaller orb for the transneptunians and centaurs.
probably 2 degrees for the big transneptunians and 1 degree for the small transneptunians.

I have been trying to keep it simple by just looking at only the ptolemaic aspects because I am considering the big transneptunians.

I remember reading Robert Hand's book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS about how he gave a 5 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,square,trine ......that influenced me to give the same orb for all the ptolemaic aspects except for sextile

for timing events, I'd use no more than 1 degree orb for major transits.

Right Ascension can easily account for transits that seem to start early and end late as well as wide orbs.

I have been considering looking at transits from a multidimensional view standpoint.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 09, 2009 07:18 PM         

T.Venus recently passed your Sun/Moon midpoint.