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posted September 09, 2009 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Have someone experience from pallas and pholus to natal in transit. I have no ide at all. I thought someone said that pholus indicate strong change. Does anyone know?

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posted September 09, 2009 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it does.
Irreversibly.

At least in my case it did and does. Right now Pholus is approaching an exact conjunction to my Neptune and NN. And he has been on my ASC.

For me Pholus is connected to opening up (spiritual) doors and bridging different things, like spiritual and physical existence, somehow bringing both together.
Just that it is not so much a bridging, but being catapulted from one into the other and back again.

In one of my most important years Transit Pholus was opposing my Sun and Mercury from the 7th house.

There is someone I share pretty strong PHolus-synastry with and he has been unkowingly triggering many developments in me, and after somet ime when it seemed that he had disappeared from the face of earth, he suddenly re-appeared.
It was the exact year of Pholus` discovery!
On top of that everytime I see him there are unbelievably strong Pholus-Transits.

I was always pretty amazed about this synchronicity, and it led me to believe that there must be more to this Pholus

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posted September 09, 2009 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I had pholus in square to my merk, uranus(house2) conj in long time. I cant't find out what kind of change in my mind or life it's beeing of it. Just now it's in trine to my sun/asc in leo (house1). I don't feel anything else I can take on pholus to sun/asc. Maybe trine not's count?
Soon pholus coming to square my pluto 12,49 in virgo.

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posted September 09, 2009 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
To be honest I never feel trines or sextiles in transits or progressions.

When did you start getting interested in astrology? Did it coincide with some Pholus-transit?

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posted September 09, 2009 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I think I was 9 years old .

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posted September 09, 2009 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
It's first now I m beeing intresting in asteroider.

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posted September 09, 2009 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I read the title of this post and initially thought it said Phallus in transit

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Lucia23
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posted September 09, 2009 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Transiting Pholus is conjunct my natal Neptune right now. What does THAT mean??!!!

Heh heh heh MVM. Well, from the looks of your SR chart, Phallus will for sure be making some transits.

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posted September 09, 2009 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
MVM -
Yeah, you would see that.

lol at the misread, and thanks so much for the image that gave me - 6 foot tall Phallus on the subway. Boinking up the steps to sunlight like a slinky.

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posted September 09, 2009 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
If an asteroid Phallus existed I could get so many more of my astrological needs met.

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posted September 09, 2009 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for taking Phallus in transit to a completely new level, Jane

Lucia... I hope so
...and also, hell yes, so many needs would be met LOL

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posted September 10, 2009 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I just googled Pholus. I bet Pholus right on top of my Neptune is actually really cool.

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posted September 10, 2009 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I have that, too. Pholus on Neptune (and NN).

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posted September 10, 2009 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message
I've always been fascinated with Pholus and have noticed that it has a very powerful affect in transit, at least for me.

Here's what I've compiled on Pholus:

Pholus:

The ending of an old life and the beginning of a new, higher life. Overcoming substance abuses, restoring peacefulness of spirit, use of daily ritual.

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Perhaps a sense of listlessness in life encourages one to eat too much or too little. Maybe even taking on alcohol or other substances as a substitute for contentment becomes the way one copes. The Centaur Pholus appears to remind us of what it is that actually lies beneath these physical urges to compensate or over-compensate in life.

Pholus appears at just the right time to remind people of the needs of spirit. While he signifies everything about food and drink, he also stresses the idea that all things intending to nurture our beings remain powerful ceremonies. Pholus indicates diet patterns, especially methods of cooking and even the type of diet including carnivorous or vegetarian ways. His attitude toward drink, most especially alcohol, insists that it be offered ceremoniously. The custom of toasting with wine (or whatever is the alcohol of choice) comes from Pholus. Blessing food symbolizes a Pholus thought. He represents use or abuse of all physical substances, alcohol being the most significant of his concerns.
Ultimately Pholus reminds us of the need to fill our daily lives with those things that are good - and only good - for us. He establishes awareness of necessary limits and requirements. He goes even further in that he offers the reminder (and often a stern one) that your daily routine must include your spiritual drill: saying grace, toasting, a daily meditation, smudging, ceremonial cleansing or whatever comes under his wise and watchful eye. Should things feel out of sorts, offer simpler, reverent acts every day. Watch the restlessness subside and the sense of well being begin.


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Small cause, big effect. Pholus has the property of release from situations, opening to possibilities, and emerging into new states of existence. It is the Centaur of fast-moving changes, or rapid transformations, typically initiated by one's own action, minor though it may seem. Catalyst.


A person with a prominent natal Pholus is in his actions guided by impulses whose motivation he is not really aware of. Actually, he is confronted with energies or parts of his nature that are not incarnated, i.e. that hang over life. They hang over or about him like a cloud (Neptune, the aphelion of Pholus) and urge towards incarnation (Saturn, Pholus´ perihelion) within the material world. In other words: Pholus stands for parts of our nature from which we are still cut off and with which we try to get into contact. The parts in question may be those which cannot be soundly unfolded, or on the other hand a domain where the person intently strives for and with time even reaches great progresses. Pholic impulses are blind in a sense. They press on being realized even if they do not "know", what could be their appropriate place in the actual order of life. On the contrary, they are in conflict with the established conditions. The person in question may feel impelled to actions, motions or gestures that give rise to disastrous life situations. So, Pholus finds himself in a strain between self-destruction and enlargement of his own character by additional energies or horizons of experience. The pholic person walks on the narrow path of great and seemingly easy success, with the risk of catastrophic slips. Whatever happens, afterwards the person is altered. He has broken with his past, has stripped off an old skin, has got over a rocky edge and unexpectedly attained a wonderful tableland, or else is stumbled over it into a precipice.


Pholus in the natal chart is indicative of issues relating to both Saturn and Neptune, i.e. feelings, emotions, sacrifice, dreams, chaos, all Neptunian stuff and the Saturnine influence of order, duty, restriction and control.
In aspect to a natal planet Pholus could indicate something we’re not yet fully aware of, something that is waiting to manifest. Perhaps something from our past is restraining us, is keeping it under control. It may become a pressing issue that we blindly and impulsively act upon only to find it has disastrous results. On the other hand, it may lead us to achieve great things. Pholus also has a mediumistic quality, a connection to ‘the other world’ and the ability to get in touch with it.
Aspects from Pholus indicate matters (as identified by the aspected planets) from which the consciousness remains disconnected, although there is potential for such a connection being developed. Impulses governed by the aspected planets may therefore be blind, hasty and disastrous in outcome. But with regard to more intangible realms, Pholus confers a visionary and mediumistic capability.


Pholus signifies impulses consciousness of which is only partial, and consciousness of whose motivation is absent, and has been associated with drug addiction, and the renewal of dreams and visions. Aspects from Pholus indicate matters (as identified by the aspected planets) from which the consciousness remains disconnected, although there is potential for such a connection being developed. Impulses governed by the aspected planets may therefore be blind, hasty and disastrous in outcome. But with regard to more intangible realms, Pholus confers a visionary and mediumistic capability.


Transits from Pholus to the nativity intensify the natal points contacted, and bring sudden insight inciting unusual courses of action with unpredictable consequences. Transits by conjunction to the angles bring rapid changes via temporary instability.

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Laurence Lewis: "Keywords: Liquid light, immortal memory, intoxication of unlimited potentials, virtual reality; reality as virtual, new age euphoria, spiritual hypermarket, reality meltdown, fluidity, dissolving structures, seduction of the soul into body, consciousness virus, inevitable, undermining stability, nothing sacred, stargate, 11:11, Awe, Galactic potentials, Impermanent history, transient archeology, future as ancient past, timewave, surreal atmosphere, Ecstasy, Galactic shamanism"
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Robert von Heeren:
* During transits: a blizard-like surprising "kick" or decision, a spontaneous urge for a fast and radical transformation of oneself often accompanied with euphoria and blind venturesomeness.

* Spontanous and in most cases an easy "shaping of skin" and transformation/change and completely ignoration of any risks.

* To eliminate and to make permeable limits and boundaries in an Uranian style so that alien energies can penetrate them, we experience these alien energies often as "chaotic" and unordered.

* To be cast or to be catapult through the "door" into absolute newland and new dimensions, in which you often feel overtaxed and there is no return to the previous state so you have to develop new abilities and cope with the new situation.
the sudden, unpredictable dissolver and bringer of chaos

* the vabanque-player

* to bring something into flow with the help of an initial ignition, to initiate a chain reaction

* "small cause, big effect"

* the catalyst

* a faux pax or mishap, which causes a chain reaction of tragic events

* the comic of a misfortune even if it's tragic

* the bone of contention or the stumbling-stone

* disturbations or detours turn out to be important tasks and lessons and bring you totally new perspective and point of view/awareness (in Greek mythology this is called a parergon, a sideway-story)

* genius and madness are close together with a strong Pholus in the chart

* the catalyst and provider for a landslide-like change (in history for example) and turning points.

* Pholus exaggerates energies in their raw state, Pholus is an amplifier, especially during transits when he passes his perihelion

* vague precognitions, which later turn out to be true, but were too unclear to grasp them clearly before, but there is always a tension

* slip of tongues, accidents due to mishaps, which are often funny (for others) besides of their tragic

* the danger of self-sabotage because the unconsciousness often takes over control

* transits: confrontation with deficits, undeveloped/un-incarnated energies, to feel spured on something or driven to do something although the reason is not clear, a tendency to self-punishment

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Darrelyn Gunzburg: "In dealing with grief when Pholus is strong in a chart, there are always two options: blindness to the issue or visionary power; naivety and deception or access to sacred imaginal knowledge."

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Juan Antonio Revilla: "Keywords: Luciferian, the Fall. a pterodactyl, a vulture. an angel, a trickster. intelligence operations, a spy. metamorphoses, overflow, invasion. orphanhood, outcast, untamed. the nobility of the wild. communion of two worlds. predator, shamanism. a wolf. exodus. clash of cultures. dispossessed, homeless, waste, the enchanted forest. torrential rain, a waterfall. incongruity, drunkenness. danger, a hunter. un-conditioning, looseness. homeless, a nomad. the butterfly and the moth. illumination, rapture, euphoria."

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posted September 10, 2009 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

In 1992, Pholus was the 2nd centaur discovered after Chiron which was discovered in 1977. That's also the same year that 1992 QB1 was discovered. 1992 QB1 was the 2nd transneptunian discovered after Pluto.
1992 was a pivotal year for discoveries in our solar system.

Pholus is said to link the orbits of Saturn and Neptune. Saturn/Neptune midpoint is said to be Pholus-sensitive.


Raymond

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Here's the info I've compiled on Pallas:

Pallas

Rules wisdom and artistic abilities. It helps the Pineal Gland. Wisdom, strategy, knowing what action to take and when. Being a warrior of principles and peace.

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Keywords:
artistic, arts and crafts, biotechnology, confidence, conflict, creative, daughter, diplomacy, genetics, healing, horses, immune system, injustice, intelligence, intuition, justice, learning, legal battles, logic, politics, science, strategy, strength, wisdom

Wherever Pallas falls in the birthchart shows the area of life where these talents are likely to be found and in what capacity.

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The wisdom of reflection and strategy.

In relationship: Extremely sexual and responsive and sexually caring to partners. Sexual negotiation skills. Sex is deeply transformative and regenerative and can go through certain cycles. Honour and respect is number one here. Sex and lust could take over in spontaneous busy days and nights. Profundity in sex. Sometimes sexual obsession. Both partners need to contribute, as control dampens the enthusiasm.

Pallas Athene is the warrior-Goddess, who is making a re-emergence in a number of forms in our culture. Astrologically, she represents political and negotiating skills, having been transformed into a kind of modern lawyer-like warrior.
Defenses and defensiveness can be involved with this asteroid. She is, after all, an armed defender. Righteous, just and true, but defensive about it. So we can look at the placement and aspects of Pallas for some clues about this attribute of who we are and how we react.

Pallas Athene is the Daughter. As Goddess of Wisdom, she is active, creative intelligence that gives birth to thought forms. Here the reproductive energy of Venus is released not through the genitals, but rises like the kundalini serpent to the head where the creative generation of ideas (mental progeny) is born. hence, Pallas Athene represents the principle of creative wisdom.

Her colour is yellow, symbolising the mastery of the intellectual domain, and her mental qualities link her to the element of air.

In the symbolism of the astrological wheel, Pallas Athene corresponds to the Midheaven, where visibly, socially useful accomplishments are realised.

Astrologically, Pallas Athene represents one's mental creativity and the capacity to create and control one's reality. When a person becomes clouded by ignorance, Pallas Athene's cycle takes them through the transformative process of destruction and renewal of their life structures. She teaches the wisdom that the mind's eye contains the seed of manifested form.

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Pallas or Pallas Athena or Pallas Athene, also known as Minerva, is associated with wisdom and intuition. Brought in with these attributes are those of logic and applied strategy. It is also creative of original thought, showing artistic ability. Pallas also rules the relationship between father and daughter. It is also representative of the Warrior Woman and the fight to escape from oppressive male domination. On the negative side, it also rules such things as incest and abuse. It is also concerned with science, the code of genetics and with biotechnology.

Pallas Athena is sympathetic to the air signs especially the justice and strategy of Libra and the intelligence and objectivity of Aquarius. She is aligned with the masculine archetypes of Mars and Uranus and close to Jupiter, her father’s realm.

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PALLAS ATHENA: THE WISDOM OF THE WARRIOR

Reflection and Strategy

The architectural masterpiece, the Parthenon, was dedicated to the Goddess whom the classical Athenians cherished. Pallas Athena was their advocate for law and order, the teacher of household arts like spinning, weaving, and cooking, as well as their protector and defender. As their Goddess of war she helped the Greeks defeat Troy, the Athenians repel the Persians; as their Goddess of useful and decorative arts she inspired them to build exceptional monuments and temples. The Goddess of merciful justice transformed the law courts and at the dawn of the fifth century she inspired the democratic shift in Athenian politics. Athena was the revered Goddess of the Athenians who celebrated her birthday each year with a great festival and procession through the Agora up to the Acropolis.

As a multi-tasked Goddess many images are associated with Pallas Athena but it is the owl that reminds us of her wisdom. Her intelligence is ‘bright-eyed’ and sharp, focused on the immediate, located in the present, aligned with the head and not the instinct. Pallas Athena embodies the rational and encourages left-brain thinking. Her wisdom controls the instincts, learning to direct them into heroic pursuits to eradicate what is dark and primitive. She is civilising and organising, bringing culture and cultivation to mankind. Justice and law are part of her new order replacing retaliation and revenge.

Strategic, reflective and controlled her craft and skill is mirrored in the multiplicity of devices she offered man, the fertility of her ideas and the usefulness of her inventions and techniques. As Pronoai she is ‘before knowing’ embracing forethought and strategic thinking. As a warrior queen she was born from the forehead of her father Zeus, fully armoured and mature, suggesting that the wisdom of Goddess had been reborn into a new order. As father’s special daughter Pallas Athena mirrored the rational intelligence and counsel of Zeus. Metis, the mother of Athena, was an ancient Goddess of wisdom known as Wise Counsel or Cunning Intelligence. She knew the feminine mysteries, the intelligence articulated by the heart and the inner world of instinct and intuition. From her Pallas Athena inherited another kind of wisdom: the wisdom of intuitive knowing often experienced in the belly as a ‘gut instinct’. It is a knowing that may speak through symptoms or disease, through creativity or craft, or radiate through stillness and tranquillity or even erupt in anger or hostility. It is a wisdom born out of an intimate connection between mind and matter, a fluid way of being the ancient Greeks knew as Sophia.

Pallas Athena is a proud daughter born from a power struggle between her powerfully dominant father and her intuitively wise mother. Consciously Athena only knows her father’s way and the new order. Born of man, like Eve, this myth is often cited when tracing the emergence of ‘father-right’ from the long held tradition of ‘mother-right’. The daughter is now aligned with the sky father who colludes in rejecting the earth mother. The tables have turned in the familial pattern and now it is father and daughter colluding against mother, no longer mother conspiring with her youngest son against the father. When Athena emerges she reflects the need for logic and rationality rather than feeling and instinct. Her path follows the reason of the head, aligned with her father, not the impulse of the heart, the vulnerable feminine side that she has not been nurtured by.

Like Eve, Pallas Athena’s feminine legacy is not so easily erased. Both their myths contain the image of the snake, a sacred symbol of their legacy of feminine wisdom, healing and regeneration. By the classical period Pallas Athena’s wisdom became subjugated to Zeus. Shaped by the masculine wisdom becomes linear, logical and rational. Metis is no longer acknowledged as her other parent. The internal wisdom of cycles, intuitive knowing and the complexity of intrapsychic understanding becomes concealed under Pallas Athena’s armour.

Pallas Athene is also associated with the arts of healing, health and regeneration. As Athena Nike she was the Goddess of Victory, first victorious in war and later a victor on the sports field. Athena signalled victory and as a patron of heroes she was also known as the Goddess of the near, as she was always close to the hero and a staunch supporter of the heroic. As the Goddess of war and defender of her father’s realm Athena became aligned with the hero as his guide and protector. In mythic portrayals of the hero, Athena stands behind or beside him as his staunch ally against the monstrous and dark forces.

When Pallas Athena appears she encourages us to be heroic and battle the regressive forces of our instinctual nature. When we channel Pallas Athena it is necessary to reflect on the situation and not react emotionally, detaching enough to formulate a decisive plan of action.

On an oracular level Pallas suggest the need to be the wise warrior and use strategy and cunning.

On a divinatory level the card suggests the individual may be torn between the head and the heart but Pallas encourages us to be heroic and choose the course that will champion our cause. An enmeshed situation demands reflection, objectivity and disengagement.

Feminine Wisdom:
Reflection and meditation develop out of the turmoil of chaos and uncertainty, helping us to become more strategic and deliberate in our actions. Metis is the valued intelligence that guides our instincts and plans strategically and arises into consciousness at exactly the right moment. Pallas Athena discerns and through reflecting on emotionally entangled situations allows consciousness to develop.

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From Bob Marks: Pallas shows our ability to recognize patterns, to arrange and re-arrange things.
Pallas in the Signs shows your preferred style for doing these things. Pallas in the Houses shows where you have problem solving ability and pattern recognition ability.

Pallas in the Signs:

Pallas in Aries: Charges right in. If the problem needs a quick, dynamic solution, you're the person to ask. This is a good placement if there is some sort of competition (or better yet, a battle) involved. Aries is an innovator and loves to be on the cutting edge. Albert Einstein had Pallas in Aries in the 10th house.
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Pallas in Taurus: If the problem is going to take a long time to solve, ask this person to handle it for you. With Pallas in Taurus, the problem solving and pattern recognizing abilities increase if you feed them.
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Pallas in Gemini: This one can work on two or more problems at a time. In fact, if they don't, they might get bored. There tends to be an especially strong ability to deal with words, to arrange and rearrange them in different patterns.
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Pallas in Cancer: The pattern recognition and problem solving abilities focus around domestic matters and emotional concerns. This is also a good placement for a therapist to have, or someone in a profession that requires nurturing in some way, such as a nanny. The sign of Cancer also governs hotels and restaurants. If you happen to work in those fields, Pallas in Cancer will be a great help in organizing, arranging, and problem solving.
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Pallas in Leo: It's SHOWTIME! This tends to be a creative placement and is very good for anyone in the arts. But in any profession, things will be arranged and problems solved in dramatic, attention-getting ways.
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Pallas in Virgo: Good ability to see tiny (even microscopic) patterns and solve problems to the 10th decimal place. Consequently, this would be a good placement for any profession that requires great attention to detail.
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Pallas in Libra: Good ability to see patterns in social situations. There also tends to be increased skill in handling social problems, so this is a good placement for a mediator. Libra, in addition, rules beauty and art. If you have Pallas in Libra, you probably (unless there are afflicting aspects) have good artistic taste, as well as an ability to know what accessories match the outfit you're wearing.
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Pallas in Scorpio: A really good placement for a therapist, detective, spy, or criminal! Scorpio loves to go deep into the underworld and come back with riches. If there is a subtle, secretive way of solving a problem, you will be the one to find it. Pallas in Scorpio can also make you obsessed with finding solutions to problems, or figuring out a secret and obscure pattern. Of course, it is also good at finding the best way to heal and rehabilitate, and is excellent for helping others manage their money and resources. If the rest of the chart agrees, there will also be the potential for changing the values of any group that you belong to, including the society in which you live.
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Pallas in Sagittarius: Don't bother looking for small patterns. Leave that for the Pallas in Virgo people. You have to get the big picture, see the large-scale patterns, and then teach others about what you've found.
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Pallas in Capricorn: This placement of Pallas is good for organizing things and making them more efficient. It definitely has a material bent and prefers to work on problems that have to do with practical matters.
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Pallas in Aquarius: This placement can solve the most difficult problems in ways that are startling and unusual. The patterns that it makes are either insane or touched by genius. If everyone agrees that a particular arrangement is the "right one" or that a certain problem has a well-accepted solution, you can count on the Pallas in Aquarius person to come up with something completely different.
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Pallas in Pisces: If other chart factors agree, this placement of Pallas can make for a good artist, designer, or any work that requires imagination. The main drawback is that there is a tendency to dream instead of do.

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Pallas in the Houses:

Pallas in the 1st House: Pallas here gives superior ability to see patterns and solve problems, especially if it is within eight degrees of the Ascendant and in the same sign.
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Pallas in the 2nd House: This placement is good for organizing money and possessions. It can also give the ability to recognize financial trends. Remember though, that the 2nd house also deals with what we value, and Pallas placed here simply helps to organize and arrange those values, whatever they may be. This includes those who reject money and preach a life of poverty. But I'll bet that the few possessions they have are well organized.
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Pallas in the 3rd House: This is the house of communications and short journeys. Pallas here makes it easier to solve problems while you are walking around the neighborhood, taking short trips, or communicating. The problems you deal with are more likely to concern immediate, day-to-day matters.
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Pallas in the 4th House: If you have a difficult problem to figure out, go home. Pallas in the 4th house means that your ability to see patterns and solve problems is greatest when you are in the house. Since the 4th house also shows the last third (or so) of our life, your problem solving abilities will probably become stronger with age.
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Pallas in the 5th House: This is good for your creativity. Artists with this placement would tend to have a good sense of form. In sports and games, Pallas in the 5th house is good for working out strategy. In matters of gambling and speculation, there will be a tendency to find patterns rather than just blindly rolling the dice. When it comes to children, this placement can make it easier to think up all sorts of new games and activities for them.
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Pallas in the 6th House: The daily work activity is where the pattern spotting ability comes into play. This can be a good placement for finding new ways to arrange and rearrange things on the job. It also favors jobs that demand the ability to deal with patterns.
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Pallas in the 7th House: The tendency with Pallas in the 7th house is to attract marriage and business partners who are good at recognizing patterns, solving problems, and arranging things. But it frequently happens that the person with Pallas in the 7th house finds it easier to do these things when there is someone else around. The other person doesn't even have to say a word. Just having another person there will make it easier for a Pallas in the 7th house person to solve problems and see patterns.
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Pallas in the 8th House: A good placement for those engaged in healing professions, including therapists (the 8th house rules rehabilitation). It is also favorable for those who manage other people's money. The 2nd house rules your values. The 8th house, which is opposite, rules the values of the groups to which you belong. Pallas in the 8th house increases the chance that the patterns you see may change those group values.
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Pallas in the 9th House: This is the house of higher education and philosophy. You may tend to be more concerned with large-scale problems than day-to-day matters. An excellent placement for a college professor or a diplomat (the 9th house rules long journeys and foreign places).
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Pallas in the 10th House: This is the house of career and the "public." If you are having trouble solving a problem while at home, get out of the house. Pallas in the 10th house will tend to increase pattern recognition and problem solving abilities in connection with the career. Albert Einstein, who made a career with his ability to see patterns, had Pallas placed here.
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Pallas in the 11th House: Once again, it becomes easier to solve problems and see patterns if there are other people around. In this case, it's friends. But a group of people would do as well. There could also be a tendency to attract friends who are clever at solving problems.
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Pallas in the 12th House: The 12th house shows what we may suppress. Someone with Pallas placed here may hold back their own problem solving and pattern recognition abilities. On the other hand, this could indicate increased ability to analyze and handle the restrictions of others. So it is also should be good for those whose work deals with "restrictions," such as therapists and social workers.

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Pallas in Aspect:

Pallas Aspecting the Sun: This person will tend to be good at problem solving and pattern recognition. If the aspects are harmonious (conjunction, sextile, or trine), these abilities will tend to be easily accepted both by the person themselves and those around them. If the aspects are stressful, then the solutions and patterns they come up may cause a clash with authority figures.
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Pallas Aspecting the Moon: These folks can be just as good as those with Sun/Pallas aspects at problem solving and pattern recognition. The difference is the process will be more instinctive and less conscious. Stressful aspects (square and opposition) can show a clash between the problem solving abilities and the emotional needs (similar to stressful Moon/Mercury aspects). The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) tend to have an easier interchange between the intellectual abilities of Pallas and the instincts of the Moon. Albert Einstein, for example had the trine.
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Pallas Aspecting Mercury: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) are excellent for solving problems and communicating the solutions so that they will be accepted. This is an excellent position for anyone who has to work with words for a living (I have the sextile myself). The stressful aspects could indicate difficulties in communicating the results of your problem solving and pattern recognition. The house and sign positions will indicate the areas where this would be the biggest problem.
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Pallas Aspecting Venus: Another good placement for an artist. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) link the Venusian love of beauty with the pattern recognition ability of Pallas. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) could lead to blockages in this area. The pattern recognition ability has problems integrating with the artistic sense. There could also be a tendency to be excessively critical (Pallas) of those with whom we are romantically involved (Venus).
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Pallas Aspecting Mars: Not bad for a military strategist or the coach of a sports team. If there is a conflict (Mars) this combination can help you figure out (Pallas) how to win. In fact, any task requiring lots of energy, physical activity, or will power can be rearranged and improved with this aspect. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) can smoothly integrate physical activity with the intellect. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can indicate a tendency to rush to judgment when solving problems. These aspects also make it more likely for one to argue when the solutions they come up with are not immediately accepted.
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Pallas Aspecting Jupiter: With the harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) there is no problem getting the big picture. This increases the ability to recognize big patterns and solve large-scale problems. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can easily give someone an over-inflated opinion of their own intellect. Many people with a stressful aspect between these two are always right and never wrong. Just ask them!
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Pallas Aspecting Saturn: The effect of Saturn, like Jupiter, is to focus on the big picture. Saturn though, tends towards pessimism rather than optimism, and caution rather than opportunity. When it comes to problem solving, those with Pallas/Saturn aspects will tend to take their time. Learning is also slowed down because the effect of Saturn is to fear mistakes. Once something is learned, however, it will likely be learned well. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) simply add a cautious and practical streak to problem solving and pattern recognition. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) put obstacles in the way. Someone with these may feel stupid (even if they are really brilliant). To develop their problem solving and pattern recognition abilities, they (more than anyone else) have to practice, practice, practice. It also wouldn't hurt if they worked to boost their self-esteem.
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Pallas Aspecting Uranus: The patterns you see will tend to be unusual and highly original. The solutions to problems will be, well, different. The effect of Uranus is to make us believe that "If everybody does things this way, it must be wrong." If the aspect is a stressful one (conjunction, square, or opposition), the ideas they come up with may shock others. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) can be just as original when it comes to problem solving and pattern recognition, but are less likely to cause people to be upset.
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Pallas Aspecting Neptune: Neptune rules dreams (and illusions). The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) between Pallas and Neptune increase imagination and are very good for artists. But scientists can benefit from this as well because of the increased powers of visualization that it confers. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) can get lost in imagination. This combination can make it difficult to tell the difference between reality and delusion.
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Pallas Aspecting Pluto: Those with this combination can notice things that seem hidden to most others. This is a good combination for a doctor, therapist, detective, or spy. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) are good for solving problems connected with healing or personal growth, "transformation" in general. They are also good those who deal with large sums of "other people's money" (venture capitalists, for instance). The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) tend to cause intense concentration on problems to the point of obsession.
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Pallas Aspecting the Ascendant: Any aspect will tend to increase the mental side of your nature, particularly the problem solving and pattern recognition abilities. This is especially true of the conjunction aspect. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) will, in addition, make it easier to solve problems together with others (there will also be an aspect to the Descendant). The opposition to the Ascendant is really a conjunction to the Descendant, so Pallas placed here could attract partners who are good at problem solving and pattern recognition. Conversely, your own abilities in these areas could come out more strongly when there is someone else around, especially a partner. The square aspect will tend to bring problems when it comes to solving problems with others.
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Pallas Aspecting the Mid-Heaven: Problem solving and pattern recognition will tend to be an important part of the career. One or both parents were likely to have been strong in these areas. If the aspect is a square, then they might have tried to over-organize your life while raising you.

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posted September 10, 2009 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Tigerliliy

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posted September 10, 2009 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Tigerly
Thank you. So much helpful information. No I know I am a sexbomb . I have juno conj pallas(0-1) in scorpio. In house 4. But only in my home I hope . No I am not a sexbomb and sometimes when I am singel I am going to celibate ;.

Both pallas and pholus act as really powerful, more powerful than I thought... I can't recognize juno conj pallas in my life as it describes. My life are not going to extacy in sex. Thats not me. But I love sex

I think pholus and pallas must be strong in synastry. I have not checke it out yet.

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posted September 10, 2009 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
thanks guys i enjoy this research so much though i have a hard time putting it down in writing...glad to see DD on the case again!! and tigerlily, wow - thanks!

neither of these is currently doing much in my chart, but i will look back at other periods to see how they relate historically for me. natally pholus is late in the 12th house conj jupiter and 6 deg from asc; pallas is on my mercury..in virgo
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the pallas in virgo made me laugh since details are my nemesis and in 7th it suggests others make details easier but for me quite the opposite. if i am going to get down to detail work there better not be anyone else around - for hours! THEN i can rock!(though the moon opposition makes sense completely!)

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posted September 12, 2009 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Thank you. So much helpful information. No I know I am a sexbomb . I have juno conj pallas(0-1) in scorpio. In house 4. But only in my home I hope . No I am not a sexbomb and sometimes when I am singel I am going to celibate ;."

I don't believe that Scorpio is actually sexual like in having sex. I think Scorpio is about deep,intense emotions that involve cathartic release.
sexual intercourse in regards to the emotions could fit in with that...especially in regards to the orgasm when having sexual intercourse.


also, this could be controversial

but I'd consider the constellation (not the same as sidereal) placement too


for example

my Sun is in 5'20 Scorpio, and so my Sun is actually in the constellation of Virgo.

planets,angles,nodes in the early degrees of tropical Scorpio will actually be in the constellation of Virgo.

I do tend to be celibate.
I am not into having sexual intercourse.

I lost my virginity at the age of 22.

Raymond

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posted September 12, 2009 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
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It was more like a joke . Juno and sex and so pallas exact conj =intensification ...in trine to my chiron. It looks like explosion. You have right

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