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Topic: 7th house
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mica
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From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 08:32 PM
 
looking at my composite chart and we have sun,mercury,jupiter,neptune and lillith all in the 7th house. Seemed like alot going on there can anyone elaborate IP: Logged |
Writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 1177
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 08:33 PM
post the chart.IP: Logged |
mica
Knowflake Posts: 22
From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 09:12 PM
not sure how to post it IP: Logged |
mica
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From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 09:16 PM
was able to copy the text but not sure how to post the gifPlanet Longitude house Speed Latitude Declination
A Sun i 3°40’ 6" 7 1° 0’42" 0° 0’ 0" N 20°53’22" S
B Moon g 3°47’58" 5 12°39’23" 0° 0’ 0" N 1°30’38" S
C Mercury i 19° 5’32" 7 1°27’40" 0° 0’ 0" N 22°59’43" S
D Venus h 4°36’29" 6 20’26" 0° 0’ 0" N 13° 3’34" S
E Mars g 13°52’30" 5 36’18" 0° 0’ 0" N 5°28’29" S
F Jupiter i 4° 4’27" 7 13’21" 0° 0’ 0" N 20°57’56" S
G Saturn e 14°51’ 1") 3+9 53" 0° 0’ 0" N 16°22’58" N
O Uranus h 10°42’27" 6 3’19" 0° 0’ 0" N 15° 2’20" S
I Neptune i 14°22’25" 7 2’13" 0° 0’ 0" N 22°31’42" S
J Pluto g 15° 5’54" 5 1’41" 0° 0’ 0" N 5°56’54" S
K Mean Node a 22° 7’40" 12 - 3’10" 0° 0’ 0" N 8°37’ 7" N
L True Node a 22° 5’11" 12 - 1’ 5" 0° 0’ 0" N 8°36’12" N
N Chiron b 3° 0’20"# 12 - 2’20" 0° 0’ 0" N 12°30’58" N
#a P.Fort. j 12°40’54" 8 0" 0° 0’ 0" N 22°50’20" S
#b Vertex h 10°12’35" 6 14°52’58" S
M Lilith i 3°45’56" 7+1 6’40" 0° 0’ 0" N 20°54’28" S
#c Ceres l 24°13’50" 11 3’31" 0° 0’ 0" N 2°17’32" S
#d Pallas k 11°19’19" 9 13’ 2" 0° 0’ 0" N 17°23’ 5" S
#e Juno b 7°16’41"# 12 - 6’ 3" 0° 0’ 0" N 13°56’37" N
#f Vesta f 4°29’48" 4 8’31" 0° 0’ 0" N 9°51’48" N
#g Pholus l 20°59’59"# 10 - 34" 0° 0’ 0" N 3°34’ 6" S
#h 136199 Eris a 13°21’28"# 11 - 22" 0° 0’ 0" N 5°16’26" N IP: Logged |
Writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 1177
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 09:20 PM
whoa thats total gibberish to me. whats the info and i will post it or you can go to: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000006.html IP: Logged |
mica
Knowflake Posts: 22
From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 09:31 PM
http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cgzqfile84CUfb-u1055654140/astro_621gw_01_13_michelle_dan.4496.25432.gif
ok let me try again
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lian3688
Knowflake Posts: 54
From: The Orient
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 09:33 PM
Mica:I am new here i only learned to do it a couple of days ago.
First copy the chart and then upload it to photobucket (photobucket.com). Then you can post it here first by clicking the UBB code on. A new window will pop up to guide you. I hope this helps. IP: Logged |
Writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 1177
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 09:33 PM
Is that his correct birthtime? Noon? because the composite houses are invalid without proper birthtime and cannot be as accurate without.IP: Logged |
mica
Knowflake Posts: 22
From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 09, 2009 10:32 PM
no I don't have an acurate birthtime for him just told midday IP: Logged |
Writesomething
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From: meet me in montauk
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 01:10 AM
I hate to read a chart without time but I will try. This composite is pretty flippin' awesome. Do you laugh a lot with him? Looks like stomach is about to burst into oblivion sort of energy. looks like there is good times, and a general ease with each other. Feelings shared tend to be romantic and very sexual. There might be some hesitance at first due to age difference(saturn) but this relationship looks very enduring if formed into a serious relationship. Was the relationship love at first sight? feelings might have a on and off feeling to it. I think feelings from one or both people could be very changeable. I mean you have laughter, learning, good sex, and enduring relationship possibilities. Looks good to me. You have a lot of strengths together and also challenges(which I DO like to see!).If youve had sex already and it wasnt that great, try AGAIN. Promise. IP: Logged |
mica
Knowflake Posts: 22
From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 10:30 AM
we are off and on for two years now. He has so many issues that make it hard for us to be together we haven't spoken for over a month which is best but my mind tends to wander back to him. I had looked at our synastry awhile back.But never the composite when i saw all those signs in house 7 it got me wondering again. Maybe thats why I keep going back even after I have decided no more. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 1408
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 01:38 PM
I personally dislike 7th house planets in composite.. house of enemiesIP: Logged |
comica23
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 02:51 PM
Without knowing the birth time of both, we can't know which houses are the planets in the composite chart is. So in this case, we can't assume it that stellium is really in the 7th house or not.IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted September 10, 2009 03:13 PM
I have a composite 7th house stellium with the guy who rejected me, including an exact Venus-Pluto conjunction.He did not even want us to make out or anything before the rejection. He was unattracted to me in a way that is unprecedented for straight men. So it kinda makes me extra skeptical of composites, even with a real birth time....it's so mathematical. It averages out his Sun with my Sun and comes up with a Sun right in between, which actually has nada to do with the relationship. All composites are like that. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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From: richmond va
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 04:26 PM
Yeah, ignore the houses in the composite since you don't know his birth time.Lucia, there are probably other overriding factors in your charts. A 7th house Sun in a composite does not automatically mean you two are meant to be together, but it's nice to have. It just shows you where the focus of the relationship is. IP: Logged |
aerialcircus
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From: Western Massachusetts, US
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 04:29 PM
Lucia, was your Davidson any different? I'm still on the fence about composites myself, but of the two Davidson seems more "logical" to me and therefore easier to digest.IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted September 10, 2009 04:43 PM
Amowls, I don't think anything shows people are "meant to be together"--and I think a problem and hazard with some uses of astrology is that it's incredibly easy to find "overriding factors" to prove a point either way. I personally find composites in general to be too mathematical. I would rather compare two natal charts than take the "average" of the charts...including when I want a flavor of the relationship as a discrete entity. Lots of composites I've looked at don't seem to accurately reflect the relationship, whereas most synastries seem right on. EDITED: Aerial, yes, I find the Davison feels more right...although I still don't like the methodology as much as just looking at natals, then synastry. The fact that the Davison is just averaging stuff too is less obvious...with the composite it's all, "I'm Leo, you're Scorpio, so our whole relationship is reflected by this gigantic stellium in---Virgo??".... IP: Logged |
mica
Knowflake Posts: 22
From: sea of tranquility
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 08:12 PM
Hmm Well now Im wondering if I should be looking at composite charts at all?? the synastry was good between us as well but there is always underlying factors that keep us apart. IP: Logged |
comica23
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 08:34 PM
Actually, the whole astrology system itself is abstract/mathematical and symbolic. ^_^; For example, aspects like square, trine and sextile are mathematical relations that humans defined.Well, the composites often seemed to miss out certain issues of a relationship, or even seems inaccurate, coz it is actually more than just the "visible" aspects that we can see in the chart. Aspects to and between midpoints of the bodies in the chart can also be relevant. And then, even if certain aspects seems positive, the over all might not be that ideal as other aspects can affect how these aspects manifest, that it might change the over all appeal. It's just like in the real life, how attraction itself is not enough for a relationship to work, if there are many underlying problems. About which method between Composite and Davison is better.. Well, each method can give us insights, depending on if we are skilled enough to interpret it. ^_~ So that both can be useful, depending on each of our preferences. Yet if we dismiss the validity of composites just because it is a chart made of midpoints between the positions of two person's charts, then wouldn't a chart made by the midpoint of time/space of two person's chart be invalid as well? Again, each method can be valid, yet it depends on if we are able to interpret them well in order to get useful insights.
mica, I suggest you to look at both synastry and composite charts, and see what makes sense or not. ^_~ See what resonates with your thoughts, so that it can help you reach a further understanding of your relationship.
Also, transits to the composite can show what might be happening to your relationship at the moment, while transits to each of your natals can show what might be affecting each of you. Also, progressed synastry/composite can be insightful as well sometimes.
An accurate astrologer might be able to tell most of the things of your relationship accurately, although he/she can sometimes miss out certain things. Not that its coz he/she isn't accurate, but coz an aspect can manifest in different ways, so that an astrologer would point out what manifests more often about certain aspects instead. That is why we are our own best analyzers, as we know what's going on in our relationship that we can relate the issues with the aspects easier (although skilled astrologers does help lol). ^_~ IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted September 10, 2009 10:22 PM
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Actually, the whole astrology system itself is abstract/mathematical and symbolic. ^_^; For example, aspects like square, trine and sextile are mathematical relations that humans defined.
Sure, but--each natal is based on the position of the classical astro-objects at your exact time and place of birth, when you take your first breath. Humans defined the meanings of aspects based on those positions, but if you've got a natal Pluto-Venus square, it means those planets were 90 degrees apart in terms of placement on your chart/"map". Synastry preserves all those positions in each natal. A composite loses both natals and averages things out in a weird way that has nothing to do with anything's position in the sky ever at any time. The midpoint between my Sun-Moon is a node (like the four angles, all the house cusps, really any spot on my chart)--the average between my Sun and Cute Sag Moon Guy's Sun is NOT a node...it's JUST a mathematical average, not a real spot based on any astronomically-rooted map we create in Western astrology--and that shows. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 1408
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 10:29 PM
one can REALLY feel exact midpoint interraction though. It's amazing.IP: Logged |
Glaucus
Knowflake Posts: 1341
From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2009 10:42 PM
What about comparing the composite chart to each natal chart to show how the relationship effects the person in the relationship.
love triangles, a relationship that has an influence on somebody, somebody that has an influence on a relationship, maybe comparing the composite against the 3rd party's natal chart could be something to look at.
for example
I had a lot of instability and power issues/abuse when it came to my mother and stepfather. Discord,Diversity issues
Their composite chart to mine:
Their Composite Pluto in 5'43 Leo
sextile my Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 8th
square my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd Their Composite Uranus in 1'19 Gemini R
oppose my Neptune in 1'48 Gemini in 3rd
square my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th
Their Composite Eris in 5'21 Aries R
quincunx my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
Raymond ------------------
"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively" - Eckhart Tolle IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted September 12, 2009 06:46 PM
quote:
What about comparing the composite chart to each natal chart to show how the relationship effects the person in the relationship.
Yeah, I've tested this before and it does seem to work. X3 quote:
love triangles, a relationship that has an influence on somebody, somebody that has an influence on a relationship, maybe comparing the composite against the 3rd party's natal chart could be something to look at.
I've heard about this before, and that someone's Sun conjunct the composite Sun can mean that this person might come between the couple. Also, I've seen some posts about this in other forum too. Although I find this rather scary. >_<IP: Logged |
popcorn
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Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 13, 2009 05:46 AM
intresting. I checked out a composite between a man and 2 women. His natal moon conj composite moon, saturn in square aspect to venus,mars (composite) conj. It looks like it's not easy for him. I know it's not easy for him that's the reason I have checked it out. It's intresting to se it work in tripple composite. The women not know each other. They do not get the same comflict to there natal chart as him. It looks like he must doing a difficult choice.IP: Logged |
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