posted September 10, 2009 09:52 PM         

Personally, I use synastry and composite the most. While synastry can tell how compatible a couple can be, the composite can tell how the relationship dynamics are. It can also tell how each of them might act in the relationship too.
There are many other things I also look at, like transits to the composite or to each chart in separate, as well as progressed synastry/composite (and then asteroids too), although normally it's better to keep it simple, as it's easier if we have an over all image first. Besides, normally the over all image is what tells mostly everything we need to know anyways.

posted September 10, 2009 10:04 PM         

It makes the most sense to use all of these tools in relation to what is going on in real life, so the more I know about the actual relationship, the better. I like the idea of using astrology in combination with intuition and any other tools that might be available.

This site makes me question everything, though. I think with a lot of relationships, psychology, intuition, and common sense are richer, more useful tools than astrology. Because astrology, by default, gives significance to EVERY relationship and non-relationship.

So let's say you're obsessed with Brad Pitt (and you only know him as a celebrity, you do not work with him or have a real relationship between equals in real life.) You dream about him, and you've decided, based on your synastry and the placement of asteroids in your chart that he is in your "Soul Family."

Astrologically, synastry will show that IF you were to meet and know each other, you would each have aspects with each other--as we each do with EVERY SINGLE HUMAN IN THE WORLD--and there are sooo many astronomical objects that if you look at enough of them, you'll find some thrilling conjunction--or many--between you and everyone--celebrities you stalk, people who reject you, the true love of your life, the guy at the grocery store, me, everyone who lives in India or Ireland, EVERYONE. When the truth is that if you were to meet, chances are highest that Brad Pitt would be friendly, polite, and unmoved...and if you started to get more intense, he might opt to get a restraining order.

In that case, using synastry--with its implied mutuality--can contribute to behavior that ladders toward stalking and other delusional fantasy syndromes. The tools of clinical psychology are better suited to analyzing groupie-celebrity type relationships than the tools of astrology, I think.

Meanwhile--if you and Brad Pitt are childhood friends, colleagues, dating each other, etc, then it makes sense to look at your synastry dynamics, in relation to the current state of your connection/relationship in real life. (EDITED: It's not the fact of someone's celebrity that's at issue, because all celbrities are people and we all have relationships regardless of our relative fame or not---it's that attractions formed outside of equal, mutual human contact--that are based instead on one person's response to another's public image--are all about fantasy and projection.)

But then--I ask myself--how useful is that, really? When the whole idea is that synastry is supposed to show the potential dynamics that WILL, or at least could, happen when two people interact?

Maybe I have it all wrong.

But I've been on this site a long time, and I see very few examples of astrological analysis helping people in their relationships. Several people have posted here about their intense, overpowering attraction, connection and love for someone--and then when it hasn't worked out (which, it was usually obvious it probably wouldn't, because the person invariably had another partner, was "scared" and so avoided actually being around the obsessed LindaLand poster, etc etc)....and the end result I always see is that then they post, just months later, about some new love, wanting to know how the synastry looks with the new person...which, if they loved the first person so much and believe we each have only one "Soul Mate", why would they be able to move on so fast? It makes me think that (most kinds of) synastry analysis foster fantasy, delusion, and RATIONALIZATION. People come on here and will argue to the death that their bad non-relationship with someone they're fooling around with is "meant to be", and then when it becomes crystal clear that it's a mess, they pretend it never happened.

I see few instances--maybe NO instances--where people use the synastry to REALLY get what they want, instead of to help rationalize all the ways they settle. I started another thread about it.

posted September 10, 2009 10:13 PM         

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 10, 2009 10:24 PM         

It depends on your karma in this lifetime too... some people, myself included are fast-tracking and so meet a LOT of karmic soul mates to learn vital lessons to further themselves and its fast and furious.

Once the lesson is learnt then the 2 break away and the cycle goes on.

Eventually, the person who is fast-tracking meets a real mate which happens when all the necessary lessons linked to the 'fast track' have been learnt.

This is a really beautiful place because it also initiates the 'lightbulb' feeling of having just been born, having survived one's own lengthy death of SELF.

Peace

posted September 10, 2009 11:38 PM         

quote:

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the space between your heart and mine is the space we'll fill with time

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Synastry shows how we affect each other's hearts. It's immediate, your heart and mine touching. The composite is the space where we meet. We feel our synastry within that space.

posted September 12, 2009 06:11 PM         

It's as if I was a couples' counseller and I got to meet with each person individually (natals), and then see them interact (natals + synastry)....versus seeing a little sheet of paper describing the house they'd bought together (composite) or something. The composite makes me "lose" each person, which is partly the point. Maybe if I could keep more dynamics in my head it would work better. I mean I obviously can't keep midpoints in my head!