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Lucia23
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posted September 12, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Do you think if a transit is a double-whammy, it's more intense? Or maybe not, because each transit hits so many dynamics in your natal chart.

For example, if I have transiting Moon conjunct my natal Mars and transiting Mars conjunct my natal Moon (like next week), will I be a raging emotional tornado of scary hormones?

In October, I'll have a Mars-conjunct-Venus transit double whammy. But I seem to have an astonishing ability to not get laid no matter what astrology suggests.

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posted September 12, 2009 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Do you think if a transit is a double-whammy, it's more intense? Or maybe not, because each transit hits so many dynamics in your natal chart."

Yep...I believe so, especially if it involves Saturn, the outer planets, even the transneptunians

for example in my case with transneptunians:

when my grandfather committed suicide which was a profound emotional experience that changed my life

transiting Ixion was in close t-square to my 10 minute of arc orb Moon square Varuna

transiting Varuna was in close trine to my 5 minute of arc Sun conjunct Ixion

"For example, if I have transiting Moon conjunct my natal Mars and transiting Mars conjunct my natal Moon (like next week), will I be a raging emotional tornado of scary hormones?"

it could mean that you're emotions are more passionate and you might feel more assertive.

"In October, I'll have a Mars-conjunct-Venus transit double whammy. But I seem to have an astonishing ability to not get laid no matter what astrology suggests."

It could mean that your love nature is more passionate and you might be assertive when it comes to love. It could be stronger urge to have sex, and not necessarily that you will have sex.


other things will factor like the person you meet....his chart in comparison with yours as well as his transits. There are usually shared experienced transits that you and he will have during a specific event.


Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted September 16, 2009 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message
ONLY if the natals are already connected thru an aspect, which would be activated - thus the DW would actually hit a sore spot in the natal chart (not sure it would make a sensible difference with soft aspects; squares and oppositions would probably have a better chance to be felt).

the 'double whammy' part doesn't change anything anyway. the quality of the aspects, the planets involved, their businss in the natal - these are still the things that matter for a transit. Mars is in a certain house, rules a certain house, has certain aspects which are ALSO activated. the same with the Moon. the two aspects will never be the same. they cannot be the same.


and this is also true for synastry. the double whammy means nothing. unless the charts are exactly the same - which I think is impossible. your planet aspecting mine is NOT the same as my planet aspecting yours - BC in each chart, each planet has different aspects, house position, house ruled.

the only reason why this expression has cought on is that it sounds nice and it SEEMS to make things simpler. which in fact is just wishful thinking for ppl who cannot grasp the tehnique of interpretation YET.

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posted September 16, 2009 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message
i have a double whammy going on right now.
saturn trine sun and sun trine saturn of course there both different because sun trine saturn will move faster and saturn trine sun is moving rather slow so i tihnk the saturn trine sun affects me mor enow then thre sun trine saturn because it will be over as soon as saturn trine sun.

its all really just a weriod energy with double whammys its suchan intense energinzing energy.

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Lucia23
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posted September 16, 2009 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Cristiname, I disagree re: synastry. I think double whammies in synastry make a particular dynamic especially evident in the relationship.

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posted September 17, 2009 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message
and by a "particular dynamic" being "evident" you mean what exactly? it sounds impressive - but what does it say?

me and a friend - we have both Venuses trine Mercuries. so what? we get along pretty well. we BOTH like to talk to eachother. but it means nothing else. a rel is not defined byone aspect, as my needs in a rel are not defined solely by my Venus or my Mercury, and same goes for him.

it's still a full on synastry interpretation that needs to be done, along with natal interpretation for both charts. this DW brings nothing to the table. it means nothing that we both like to talk - this means a lot to him, but means little to me - everybody likes to talk to me; I'm full of it. I need more...etc. etc.

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posted September 17, 2009 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Yes.

Double whammy transits are more powerful.

In my natal chart, I have the planet Uranus in my house of children. Once I went through a double whammy transit where transiting Uranus was opposing my natal Venus, and Transiting Venus was squaring my natal Uranus.

1 week later, my son had a freak accident where he almost lost his life.

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Lucia23
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posted September 18, 2009 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
and by a "particular dynamic" being "evident" you mean what exactly? it sounds impressive - but what does it say?
...a rel is not defined byone aspect, as my needs in a rel are not defined solely by my Venus or my Mercury, and same goes for him.

Of course, but in order to look carefully at each natal, then the synastry as a whole in careful relation to each natal, then the composite--we STILL need to break it down into aspects, and understand how the energy and dynamics of each relationship between two planets is playing out, within the exquisitely complex constellation of the entire "map" of the relationship. (Which, even then, is only a map.)

What I mean about the dynamic being more "evident" as a DW is that, if A's Venus is square B's Pluto and B's Venus is conjunct A's Pluto--BOTH people will feel like the Venus person AND the Pluto person within in the relationship, making the issues of the dynamic of Venus's intersection with Pluto (power, obsession, push-pull, control, fascination mixed with ambivalence) a much more major theme in the relationship than if the intersection of Venusian with Plutonian energy only went one way for each person.

Of course this will have varying levels of impact based on the natals (as you described with your friend--he feels that easy Venus-Mercury connection more rarely in his life than you do, since natally "everyone likes to talk to (you)")--but I still think it's significant, and when I look at people's charts in connection with their real-life relationships, it does seem like however double-whammy aspects effect or relate to each natal, they represent stronger themes in the relationship as a whole than one-sided aspects. It seems to be especially strong with outer-to-inner planet relationships [Sun-Neptune, Venus-Pluto], and with Node conjunctions to planets or angles.

This can vary from relationship to relationship, and--like ANY "cookbook" astrological application--doesn't need to be applied crudely or simplistically. But I do think it's noticable when you start looking at people's synastry in relation to the dynamics they have with each other in real life. It's not just an empty idea.

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Lucia23
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posted September 18, 2009 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Belage, yikes!! So glad your son is okay.

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Belage
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posted September 18, 2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
^^^^ Lucia, my son fell from the 2nd story down to the concrete floor below and lost consciousness. For a few minutes, I went through the most horrible time of my life, not knowing if he was going to die or if he was going to be paralyzed or anything like that.

Miraculously, he had no major injuries... I think the fact that he has natal Saturn and Pluto in a grand trine with my natal Uranus really helped. Wherever Uranus is placed in a natal chart, it creates instability, things and people that come and go out of the blue, and having this grand trine with him helps stabilize things.

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cristiname
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posted September 18, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message
belaje, there must've been something else to show that accident. have you looked at SA?

Lucia, that's a nice explanation. I'm still thinking that the dw brings no specific difference. the overall effect would be a sum of the two aspects, not something else on account of the DW.

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