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posted September 16, 2009 09:09 PM         

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I want to know what some of the more experienced relationship astrologers (That would be ANYONE but me, lol) think of this composite. I can post the synastry if needed.

What I notice is the pluto in the 4th. We may be moving together. I am wondering if this means we will move. I also wonder if this is bad. I've heard pluto in the 4th is not a good location, but for us, this may just mean our home is radically changed, because we move so far away.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:14 PM         

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Diana, have you done comparisons to the natal charts from the composite midpoints? As in, the composite sun, and what planets it contacts in your own natals ?
Also, where the comp sun and other planets fall in your own natal houses is very telling, I've found.
Just FYI.
I'll take a look at this and post again!!

Also look at the ruler of the 7th and where it's located, and the aspects it makes. That also says a lot.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:17 PM         

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Post the synastry please. Are you working with exact birth times?

I like the Sun-NN in the 9th house. And I don't think Pluto there in the 4th is necc. bad...it could just mean the relationship is transformational in that area. But I can't really read composites.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:30 PM         

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Hi MVM,

The moon and mercury are on my sun. The venus is on my mercury.

Moon, mercury, and sun fall into my 10th and venus falls into my 8th.

I have left out the outer planets on both analyses because we were born very close.

Are you talking about the 7th ruler in the composite or the natal?

I will have to look at his chart, because I don't know his like I know mine. I am pretty sure the moon and mercury fall into his 7th.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:32 PM         

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wow this sun square saturn feels.....heavy

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posted September 16, 2009 09:32 PM         

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Lucia,

Yes, they are exact TOB.

Here is the synastry. ETA: I am the one on the outside.

I should say we have a lot going on with our progressed charts. I have venus about to change signs and getting close to my sun and he has Pvenus on his moon. That's all I remember off the top of my head...

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posted September 16, 2009 09:33 PM         

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Hanakin,

Why? What do you think that means? Should I be worried?

ETA: I wonder if the sun square saturn is why we both are having a really hard time keeping things grounded....we are both acting uncharacteristically. We are progressing reallllly fast. We are talking about moving together already and it's only been a little over a week. I NEVER do that. I've never felt this way before. EVER. I feel like I can't help it.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:44 PM         

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I think this relationship will transform/heal your relationship with your own sexuality. (In the synastry charts, you're on the inside, right? If not, just reverse who's doing what to whom.)

Your 8th house Sun and Moon are cnj his Eros. His Moon and Venus are cnj your 5th house Mars.

In the composite, the Sun is squared by Saturn. Saturn rules the 8th house. The composite has a 6th house stellium - that's the house of healing. Jupiter and Neptune, healing Mars.

In synastry, a stellium of the exact same planets falls from him into your 5th house.

All this combined makes me see this as a deep, tender relationship. The growth won't be easy - knocking down walls never is (Saturn-Sun square in comp). But I think this looks like some beautiful interaction, potentially life-changing.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:47 PM         

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And his IC on your AC shows that with you he's learning to be truly himself in a relationship. For him, a purpose of this relationship is to relate to a woman completely authentically.

Basically, for both people, this relationship is about being truly intimate with a romantic partner.

Disclaimer: I don't consider myself an experienced astrologer. But my three-year long LL addiction has taught me a thing or two about astrology.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:51 PM         

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Hey Jane,

Before I respond I want to tell you I am the one on the outside. So, it's my IC and his AC. I am so stupid for not saying who I was...

Thanks, btw. Now I will reread what you wrote and then respond.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:52 PM         

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No problem.

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posted September 16, 2009 09:59 PM         

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posted September 16, 2009 09:59 PM         

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posted September 16, 2009 09:59 PM         

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I didn't know the 6th house was one of healing....

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posted September 16, 2009 10:01 PM         

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Intersting what you said about the angle connection. He said he's never been this honest with anyone. hmmmm.

We are CONSTANTLY in contact. We have to be talking all the time. I was never like before. What the hell is going on? Can anyone see this in the charts?

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posted September 16, 2009 10:04 PM         

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That could be the comp Sun ruling the 3rd house and placed in the 9th house. Both houses like to talk. And the comp Moon is cnj Mercury. That's in the 8th house, and its ruler is square the Sun, which could bring a sense of urgency and pressure to live out that house's activities.

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posted September 16, 2009 10:07 PM         

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The 6th is often referred to as the house of service. I think the aim of that service is to purify (Virgo energy), to make something more whole and functional.

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posted September 16, 2009 10:12 PM         

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I guess....it's all just so weird.

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posted September 16, 2009 10:28 PM         

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hmmm
i agree the saturn square sun cast a repressive feeling to begin with .and the pluto square to venus implies this relationship is based on sex alone though the venus/mars midpoint is conjunct the sedcendant which shows a overt emotional/physical attraction.
but with the chiron/pluto midpoint opposed to venus, it seems in addition to a extreme carnal direction that there is a strong domineering impuse also.
to be fair the moon/merxcury conjuct sextile to the jupiter/neptune conjunction shows there is a great intellectual rapport and a compassionate emotional connection.
but with the mars/uranus midpoint square the moon/sun midpoint ,most likely this relationship will not sustain itaelf unless so much freedom is given that one would have to question if it is a relationship at all.this could describe a "open" relationship but then the synastry might be more descriptive of the dynamics.the neptunje/jupiter conjuction makes me think that there is a cultural or religious difference portrayed here.in that case,the negativity may not be so destructive as it could just be conflicting cultural values.

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posted September 16, 2009 10:29 PM         

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The relationship is weird, or how it's translated into astrology is weird? (No pressure if you don't want to get more particular.)

In my experience, relationships with hard Saturn aspects can feel weird in the sense that they're so real...issues and deep longings we've had inside for a long time, are now right there outside us in the real world. We can't relate with the other person without feeling transparent (even if we're, in fact, enigmatic to them).

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posted September 16, 2009 10:35 PM         

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Todd,

I hope it's not just sexual. We are very attracted to one another, but that's not what I want. We have no cultural or religious differences at all. We grew up in the same neighnorhood and have known one another sincfe we were kids.

Jane,

How I feel and how fast it's moving is weird.

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posted September 16, 2009 10:50 PM         

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Weird can be wonderfully liberating.

But if it's going too fast, don't be afraid to tell that Saturn square to step back so you can have a breather. People often talk about how Saturn delays and restricts, but I've also read (and experienced) it as a force that bonds people quickly. I think it was Arroyo's Karma and Transformation where I read that. (He was talking about synastry though, not comps.) Saturn seduces couples into feeling so at ease with one another, that they commit. Then when they're cozy and committed, Saturn throws all the work at them they have to do together. The comp square doesn't necessarily mean that the experience will be painful, just that there will likely be work to do - issues to work through.

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posted September 16, 2009 10:54 PM         

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It can be great.

I really think that our saturn square is that - going too fast. But we are taking it slowly sexually. We haven't done anything yet. I am trying to slow it all down, but it's hard, because I really feel drawn to him.

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posted September 17, 2009 12:14 AM         

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That's an interesting analysis of Saturn, Jane. I agree with you. Saturn contact makes people feel all safe so they can really drop their guard and then commit lol

As for the other stuff.... Diana, I don't think the aspects alone say what a relationship could be between two people. The way one couple handles a Pluto/Venus square varies from another couple. It totally depends on the two people, right? The aspects aren't going to make them one way or another

I think you guys have a great synastry too.
And as for the honesty thing, I think with all the planets in the 11th, including Mercury, there's a 'friends first' feeling that can also tie in beautifully, making things feel so right on all kinds of levels

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posted September 17, 2009 04:43 PM         

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MVM,

Yeah, I definitely feel the pluto, i'm guessing it's the pluto. I feel obsesssed and I'm pretty sure he does too. It's very scary at times, but I am not really scared -- even though I should be.

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