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DD
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posted September 17, 2009 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,

I think ViG was right when she suggested we should move to our own thread.
Let us explore these lives, here.


Well, let me start by being a bit of a wet blanket ( I am sure you remember that about me ), but I think some of the orbs are really too wide, especially using asteroids and outer planets.

But still there is so much that remains....


"We have your Sun/Mer conjunt my Moon/Nept "
Not sure if that isn`t too wide. But the energy of the signs will be there, or is there, definitely.

"Your Moon, Merc, Venus, NN, all fall in my 4th house, that is the domestic energy I am gettin from us.
You feel it too because I make connectios to your IC as well."
Yes, we have strong connections to the IC, which I consider to be the core of the soul, and as Robert Blashke states, true soulmates always will have conjunctions to IC.
I guess we have enough of them.

"there is pattern in our charts and it builds from the initial foundations of your Ascendant conjunct my IC and your DC conjunct Midheaven."
This one really almost knocked me off my feet. Did you see HOW close that conjunction is? Wow!


"How fitting I would meet you when I am moving toward a critical moment in my life as well as my career."
Yes, and as is pretty obvious probably, I have also been in a critical phase in my life, actually I have been t here since joining LL in 2006.


" How curious your interests in Celebrities as well. I will explain why about that later."
What do "celebrities" have to do with it? Except for the fact that you are going to become one yourself.


"First things first going on at this axis.
Your Sun opposes my Karma
My Moon opposes your Karma."
Hmm, at least the Sun-Karma is too wide for my taste. But my DNA is exactly trine your Karma, how about that?


"Karma is conjunct your Kaali and my Kaali sextiles your Karma. "
I still think these are too wide.


"Also my Kaali trines your Atlanis, Neptune, and Mars. The Mars and Kaali show the sexual aspects, but my Ascendant/NN/Saturn squares this."
I think this one is very interesting, especially since it is pretty tight orbed.
BTW my HYPNOS is on 6 Leo.


"and your Karma opposing my Neptune."
Well, this one is definitely interesting. Maybe it signifies either something spiritual or delusional? Have we been completely honest with ourselves?
Or is it just that gentle spiritual compassionate quality?

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posted September 17, 2009 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
"Were an arranged marriage of some sorts."
Yes, we were.
I think, no I feel very clearly, that I was in love with somebody else, whom I wasn`t allowed to marry, and then he went away (and I feel like I am STILL shocked about this).


"ut we learned to love each other and respect each other."
Yes, that is something I feel, too. And I feel like we had a real partnership, do you feel the same?

"We are not twinsouls"
No, we are not, but I agree, soulmates.

"Karma which we have managaged to transmute before reincarnating now. So that we actually are meeting each other because we are no longer bound to our Karmic ties."
That is so interesting that you say that.
Just this morning I have told PA that I have this feeling, that we have transmuted or finished our relationship karma.

But there is a reason that we reconnect here.


" Have you gone through a huge transformation recently?"
LOL
Are you kidding?
YES DEFINITELY.

And I am a bit worried what the transiting Saturn, Sun, Moon - Uranus-opposition will do to me, as it is exactly squaring my Sun and Mercury. (it is only 0 degree and 3 minutes from exact square to my sun).


I am still transforming btw. In major ways. If anything scares me, then it is that more than any psychic or astrological gift I may posess.
But it doesn`t REALLY scare me, it was about time. lol


"You Valentice opposes my persephone.
And my Valentine is cojunct you Persephone."
This one is very, well, it is astounding.
I wonder what IQ would say to this.


"DW Mars conjunct IC's respectively."
Yes, that is very interesting. A very dynamic energy.


"It was almost like an arranged marriage of two prepared human beings, perhaps an experiment in Genetics in the Last Atlantean cycle."
Hmm, let´s not talk about genetical experiments right now. I think we might disagree on these things a bit.

My Logos conjunct your Kaali and Logos, is pretty intriguing.

"that was the next lifeline followed by the Chaldean one where we if I am correct is where the love affair with Astrology begin......"
Yes, it definitely started there.

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posted September 18, 2009 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
DD,
I will have to answer your questions tomorrow. I have got to get in bed, lol I have an early call time tomorrow. But I just wanted to say that even though the orbs are wide.
The energy is there, if that makes any sense, although the energy will not be as profound it must be taken into consideration because the Sun and Moon are such powerful points in charts. I tend to look at the inner planets that way. Because it remains to be said that both of our Karmas are in Gemini and our Sun and Moon are in Sag. Clearly opposing energies even with wide orbs. But I get your take on it too, with so much going on we need to be watch orbs to tell the story correctly.
And for sure I agree about the outer planets, they definitely need to be tight.

That Persephone and Prosephone trine got me as did the Persepho and Valentine...my mind is still reeling...
ok bed time! lol

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posted September 18, 2009 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,

yes the positions in signs alone would point to some "background-compatibility", but it is not very specific.
What I mean, is that this is not necessarily about YOU and ME, cause we would have these energies with many people born in the same month as us.

That is where the tight aspects come into play; they show specifically what has been going on, probably just between the two of us, but not necessarily between you and my neighbour, who may have been born 2 weeks before me.


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BTW have you had a look at our composite?
Did you see that Valentine, Angel conjunction on the ASC, with Angel being exact on ARCTURUS?
Oh and the True Node is also conjunct Angel.

And Sun is exactly conjunct Atlantis and conjunct Sumeria by 1 degree, and Sun/Atlantis/Sumeria trines Angel and True Node and even ASC.

Oh and Mesopotamia is on 27 Sagittarius, and sextiles Sun / Atlantis / Sumeria as well as Angel and True Node. it is on the midpoint of this trine.

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posted September 18, 2009 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
<<Did you see that Valentine, Angel conjunction on the ASC, with Angel being exact on ARCTURUS?
Oh and the True Node is also conjunct Angel.>>

Now this is Significant! Some of the Oldest Souls on Earth are from Arcturus. When I mean old soul, I mean these guys have had very early incarnations on earth. It is not that they are better or worse than others, but the Old Souls are the early starters and pioneers in the Earth Experiment.

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posted September 18, 2009 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I want to add here. ORBM you mentioned around 11 degrees Virgo. My South Node is 11-12 degrees Virgo. I thought/felt there was a connection there.

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posted September 18, 2009 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
So, a configuration like this in our composite (if backed up by other aspects) might signify that we might have had a relationship or encounter pretty much early on?

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posted September 18, 2009 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

PA, we posted simultaneously. Must be my Jupiter exact on your NN.

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posted September 18, 2009 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, DD, that's just typical of us.

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posted September 18, 2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,

I was cutting back the asteroids for the moment and looking with my personal basic set of asteroids at our synastry.

Let me give you the full list:

I used a 3 degree orb, only sometimes expanding to 4 degree

I. Core aspects (Sun, Moon, angles and ruler of angles)

Your Sun trine my Sun
your Moon sextile my Moon
your ASC square my ASC

- did you see we have an interaspect between all of them, even though it is always the same planet connecting

Your IC conjunt my AC
your DC ruler conjunct my DC ruler widely (5)
your DC conjunct my ASC-ruler (now that is a classic one. )
Your Sun trine my DCruler
your ASC square my IC-ruler
your IC conjunct my IC ruler
your ASC trine my MC-ruler

II. aspects with NN, Karma, Destinn

your SNc onjunct my Juno
your NN square my karma
your NN sextile my saturn
your Karma trine my MOon
your Karma square my Juno
your SN conjunct my ASC ruler (5)
your Destinn opposite my DCruler

my Nn trine your Mars
my NN square your Saturn
my NN square your Valentine
my NN square your ASC
my NN conjunct your IC
my Karma opposite your MOon
my Karma trine your Pluto
my Karma sextile your Juno
my Destinn trine your Venus

DW`s:

Saturn/NN
Karma / Moon
Karma / Juno

(and actually there is also a DW of Moon and Juno, so there is a triple chain of DW`s of Karma-Moon-Juno, can it get any more clear?)

III. Saturn, Pluto, Juno, Union

Your Saturn trine my Venus
your Saturn square my Mars
your Saturn square my Neptune

- about the last one I read that it signifies karmic love relationship, and regarding the square the author states: "The square between Saturn-Neptune in the Synastry chart can indicate a karmic lover relationship, but the lovers have not usually lost one another through their love, that is, their relationship didn't cause or contribute to the death of one or both partners as can be the case with the Saturn-Neptune opposition in a karmic house touching a planet or light in both individual nativities. The square more often indicates that there were difficult circumstances in the past that the two individuals failed to handle appropriately and they will once again face a similar situation together. Their incompetence may have cost lives, particularly if they were involved in the medical profession or were military leaders. This configuration can appear when both partners need to work toward a goal that will benefit mankind. It can become a driving force behind a team dedicated to helping others. The square will often be strong enough to hold the two people together if they are able to focus the energy outside the relationship rather than within it. The fear that lingers so deeply with the opposition could manifest within the relationship with the Saturn-Neptune square, but it isn’t likely to be as strong nor focused within the relationship. For instance, meeting the other person could bring up unknown fears and insecurities within each individual, but they will not be fearful of the other person. Instead, they may come to lean on the other to offer support and help them overcome the new fears as they develop. Fear of professional success or health maladies may be brought to the forefront through the connection. For instance, one partner may be scared to take a risk in order to make more money or gain prestige in his or her profession while the other partner develops allergies or begins to worry excessively about cancer or another terrible disease"
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html


your Saturn opposite my Lust
your Saturn oposite my Jupiter
your Saturn square my ASC
your Saturn opposite my ASC-ruler
your Saturn square my ICruler
your Saturn trine my MCruler
(hmm your Saturn looks pretty challenging I must say)


your Pluto trine my Moon
your Pluto square my Saturn
your Juno sextile my Moon
your Juno square my Saturn
your Juno opposite my Aphrodite
your Union opposite my Moon

my Saturn conjunct your Lust
my Pluto opposite your Mars
my Pluto trine your Psyche
my Pluto trine your MC
my Juno square your Moon
my Juno trine your Lust
my Juno square your DESC ruler
my Union opposite your Sun
my Union square your Jupiter
my Unon square your IC-ruler

DW:
Saturn/Lust
Moon / Juno


All in all there seems to be so much Saturn.


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posted September 18, 2009 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
IV. Venus, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Mars, Eros, Lust, Aphrodite

your Venus trine my Eros
your Psyche sextile my Lust
your Psyche sextile my ASC
your Psycthe trine my MC
your Amor trine my Venus
your Valentine oposite my Jupiter
your Valentine square my Neptune
your Valentine opposite my ASCruler

my Venus square your Mars
my Venus trine your ASC
my Psyche sextile your Sun
my Amor trine your Juiter
my Amor trine your IC-ruler
my Amor trine your MC-ruler
my Valentine trine your Jupiter
my Valentine trine your IC-ruler
my Valentine trine your MC-ruler


your Mars trine my Mars
your Mars trine my Lust
your Mars trine my ASC
your Mars conjunct my IC
your Mars trine my IC-ruler
your Eros trine my Aphrodite
your Aphrodite trine my Jupiter
your Aphrodite square my Aphrodite
your Lust conjunct my Eros
your ASC square my Mars
your IC conjunct my Mars
your ASC square my Lust
your IC conjunct my Lust

DW:
Jupiter / Valentine

Mars / ASC
Mars / IC


V. aspects of ruler of 5th, 8th and 12th house

your 5th house ruler (Mars)
trine my Venus, ruler of 5th house
square my Mars, ruler of 4th house
opposite my Jupiter, ruler of ASC
square my Neptune
square my NN
square my Lust
square my ASC


my 5th house ruler (Venus):
square your Mars, ruler of your 8th
trine your Saturn, 5th house ruler
trine your Amor
trine your ASC


your 12th house ruler (Sun)
trine my Sun
trine my DSC-ruler


my 12th house ruler (Pluto)
opposite your Mars, 8th house ruler
trine your Psyche
trine your MC


your 8th house ruler (Mars):
square my Venus, 5th house ruler
trine my Mars, IC-ruler
oposite my Pluto, 12th house ruler
trine my Lust
trine my ASC
conjunct my IC


my 8th house ruler (Moon):
sextile your MOon
sextile your Neptune, DSCruler
trine your Pluto
sextile your Juno
trine your Karma
quinkunx your Lust


DW:
Mars / 5th house ruler
ASC / 5th house ruler
Pluto / 8th house ruler
Lust / 8th house ruler

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posted September 18, 2009 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
There are also some complimentary aspects:

your ASC trine my MC-ruler
my ASC conjunct your IC

your SN conjunct my ASC-ruler
my NN square your DESC


your Union opposite my Moon
my Union opposite your Sun

your Lust conjunct my Eros
my Lust sextile your Psyche

your ASC trine my Venus
my ASC trine your Mars

your 5th house ruler trine my Venus
my 5th house ruler square your Mars

So the -through same planet aspects, DW and complimentary aspects - emphasised spots would be:

Same objects:

Your Sun trine my Sun
your Moon sextile my Moon
your ASC square my ASC
your DESC conjunct my DESC-ruler
your IC conjunct my IC-ruler
your Mars trine my Mars
your Aphrodite square my Aphrodite
your 5th house ruler trine my 5th house ruler


DW`s:
Saturn / NN
Karma / Moon
Karma / Juno
Moon / Juno
Saturn / Lust
Jupiter / Valentine
Mars / ASC
Mars / IC
mars / 5th house ruler
ASC / 5th house ruler
Pluto / 8th house ruler
Lust / 8th house ruler


Complimentary planets:
ASC - IC/MC
NN - ASC / DC
Union - Sun/Moon
Lust - Eros / Psyche
ASC - Venus / Mars
5th house ruler - Venus / Mars

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posted September 18, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,
Carrying your comment from the other thread over here for continuity. (sorry I don't know how to put it in a separate bracket)
__________________________________
VIG,
So can I tell you that there has been something about you that grabbed me from the very first post I read from you, I think it was when you were talking about your Twinsoul, you and I are definitely connected, I can tell you that before I even look at a chart, I can feel when I read something by you, and especially when you address me.
So in a nutshell it will be my honor to discover exactly whats going on between you and I.

Edit:
Oh and I will start a thread with what I find, I just glanced at it and its alot.
First things first I see Karma conjunct Sphinx and Karma opposing Sphinx, and our Kaalis oppose as well.
There is much to be unearth between you and I as well.
Oh and your Isis and Osiris conjunction opposes my Osiris and inconjunct my Isis.
Ok I have to hit the sack because I have a early call time, but I will get back to this sometime tomorrow,
xoxo
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I haven't looked at the charts in detail yet. But wanted to tell you that the first indication is always the "chills" when I read someone's posting on a thread. And then if I see a picture, the soul recognition is usually so strong that I cry. I did see your picture on Venusdeindia's facebook friends list. I am there as well.

And even before I saw your comment, I heard Egypt...and brother.

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posted September 18, 2009 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Wow DD and VIG,
Im kind of fighting emotions here.
In my chart my Karma and Destin exactly oppose my Moon and Neptune, Tameem said that I was destined to learn about myself through the Occult.
Its just overwhelming sometimes to see things as they are unfolding.

DD,
You have the most amazing mind.
Its got to be that Moon in Aquarius!

First things I see in the complimentary listings is a strong compatibility of core energies. I wonder what the Aphrodite is saying. What does Aphrodite as a Asteroid embody?

The DWs are astonding!
The 5th House again is in play.
Did you notice that.

"(and actually there is also a DW of Moon and Juno, so there is a triple chain of DW`s of Karma-Moon-Juno, can it get any more clear?)"

It does not need to get any more clear huh.
Whats funny is you never felt like a stranger, and I found myself from the very start on here seeking out your attention and wanting you to like me. lol
Too funny, that I can admit that to myself now. Remember out first major discusssion and recognition of a connection as over the thread involving the Hanging Gardens in Babylon.

Which brings me to something else.
Do you remember our name Asteroids, well would there be any significance in them being conjunct in Synastry? My name Asteroid is at 4 Pisces in my chart. And its at 2 Pisces in your chart again its conjunct my IC.
And look at this Amystis is at 4 degrees Virgo in my Chart opposing my name in your Chart exactly. Could that be clue?
And consider this your Babel and Babylon astroids are conjunct at 21 and 24 degrees Libra respectively, trining my Karma and Destin Asteriods and sextiling my Moon and Neptune, and opposing my Sun.
Your Amystis trines my name Asteroid and sextiles my Amystis.
My Babylon at 6 Taurus exactly trines your Venus.
OMG! DD!
Look at Amystis, and Chaldea, in your chart they oppose and in my chart they oppose, yours includes your Venus and mine includes my Saturn. Its a little wide for me but spot on for you.
Yours is on a Cardinal Axis in your 1st and 7th house, this Falls in my 4th and 10th house.
Again showing the aspects of being rulers and married.
Mine is in my 7th and 12th House and conjunct my Ascendant and Conjunct your Jupiter, again showing the wealth and happiness. This is your 9th and 3rd house. Showing the aspects of Marriage, Death, travel, philosphy, religion, communication. Could that be the Gardens and Astrology.
We must study the story of Nebuchadnezzar and Amystis.
Look at Ishtar the Goddess of Babylon, yours is exactly, exactly DD, conjunct my DC and Chaldea, opposing my Valentine.
And mine is opposes your Saturn.
Our Mesopotamias also are sextile.

I bet Amystis was given to him in an arranged marriage.
What do you think? And he built those gardens to make her happy, hell I bet he did everything to make her happy because he truly did love her, and he knew that she was not in love with him. Hence the Saturn in my connection and the Venus in yours.
Ok well Im gonna read the story, lol

here is the chart if you want a quick look,
it really is something else just to look at, so precise:
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posted September 18, 2009 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
That just made me look at our Saturns and Venus.
Your Saturn is at 16 degrees Cancer and my Venus is at 22 Pisces, wide but trining.
And my Saturn is at 7 degrees Virgo and your Venus is at 6 Capricorn, spot on.
We have been through alot together.

Tameem is right, old souls who have come together in very difficult times on Earth living very high profile lives. Funny that in our last life, I believe it was much more simple and peaceful though. And then we were done.
Only reunite again.....for what?....
Stay tuned for Part 2 of As the Planets Turn! lol

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posted September 18, 2009 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Peace Angel that is a hotspot in my Chart.
My Saturn is 7 degrees, my Valentine is at 12, my Asc is at 8, Angel is at 11, and Osiris is at 12 Pisces, Sekmet at 5 Pisces, and Name Asteroid at 4 Pisces.
There is more, but you get the point, lol
So your SN is exactly conjunct my Valentine and Angel
So interesting to confirm what you feel, because I have always felt that energy connection to you as well. I feel like I get you, you know. Especially your sense of humor.


DD,
ok I hate to bed a dead dog.
But did you notice that you loosely have your Angel, Valentine, and NN conjunct your Ascendant and so do I.
Just another observation, lol

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posted September 19, 2009 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Whenever you are checking Asteroids, pls check if you have anything on 7-9 degrees Virgo and 20-22 degrees Virgo.

I am having ATLANTIS conj SEKHMET at 8 Virgo
21 Virgo is my Draconic Ascendant.

ORBM has Asc at 8 Virgo and that got me thinking, we should try and identify the major hotspots in the charts.

DD's 7-9 Sagittarius is another example.

Katatonic also pointed out that many Knowflakes have 26 Taurus aspected, so ALGOL is also quite hot here!

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posted September 19, 2009 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,

"You have the most amazing mind.
Its got to be that Moon in Aquarius!"
Thanks.

And maybe the Moon contributes, event hough maybe that urge to categorize things to get down to the core of aspects and not drown in too many details, could also be related to my midpoint picture of Moon= Mercury/Pluto.


"I wonder what the Aphrodite is saying. What does Aphrodite as a Asteroid embody?"
Aphrodite is the Greek counterpart of Venus and it is also said that Ishtar was the babylonian expression of Aphrodite.

Interstingly Venus and Aphrodite are not the same. Aphrodite is more focussed on attraction.

I once read this interpretation of her:
"charisma, attraction, impulsive or fated love, animosity turning to magnetism"

This last part of animosity turning to magnetism always resonated quite strongly with me.


"The DWs are astonding!
The 5th House again is in play.
Did you notice that."
Yes, I did, and I was surprised to see it there, after all this is the house of romance. But then maybe it also signifies our love for creativity, acting and imaginary plays?

"It does not need to get any more clear huh."
No, looks like a past life marriage based on nurturing and caring.


"hats funny is you never felt like a stranger, and I found myself from the very start on here seeking out your attention and wanting you to like me."
You have my attention and my sympathy. And no you did not feel like a stranger either.

" Remember out first major discusssion and recognition of a connection as over the thread involving the Hanging Gardens in Babylon."
Of course I do.


"Do you remember our name Asteroids, well would there be any significance in them being conjunct in Synastry?"
I`m not so good in interpreting name asteroids. But maybe it means that we have similiar traits and therefore there is a certain familiarity?
Even though in my case it is my family name.


"My name Asteroid is at 4 Pisces in my chart"
The degree of my Draconic Siva.


"OMG! DD!
Look at Amystis, and Chaldea, in your chart they oppose and in my chart they oppose, yours includes your Venus and mine includes my Saturn. Its a little wide for me but spot on for you. "
Yes, Amytis is an exciting new find. That is just so WOW.
And my Draco Amytis falls onto my Babylon, which sits on our composite ASC-Angel-conjunction on fixed star Arcturus.
It doesn`t cease to amaze me.


"Look at Ishtar the Goddess of Babylon, yours is exactly, exactly DD, conjunct my DC and Chaldea, opposing my Valentine.
And mine is opposes your Saturn."
Yes, Ishtar is a very significant one for me and in our synastry.
Not just because she is positioned astrologically at that point, but I just always felt so drawn to the Ishtargate.

On Nebukadnezar - I always felt a connection to that name or that man, since I read his name first in the bible.
And it came with a feeling of compassion (?).


"t Amystis was given to him in an arranged marriage."
I think that is true.

Actually I checked wikipedia and it seems to have been exactly this way. She came from Persia (and oh coincidence, I have started dreaming of Persia just a few weeks before we met here. lol)

"hell I bet he did everything to make her happy because he truly did love her, and he knew that she was not in love with him."
*gulps* That rings very true to me, and makes me sad somehow.
But well there are different forms of love. Friendship and respect can be one, too. But if you are talking of romantic or passionate love, then I guess you are right.

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posted September 19, 2009 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Also, the fact that we both have Valentine, Angel and NN so close to our ASC`s, is of course reflected in the composite with that stellium around the ASC, too.


I also agree with IQ, those hot spots are the ones we should pay special attention, too.
And I guess we all have several ones.
Another one for me is around 22-28 Sagittarius or the beginning of Capricorn.


Well, ORBM, what we have been looking at is the chart of present incarnation. I think it would make sense to have a look at the Draco`s, too. I bet there are interesting things to unveil.

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posted September 19, 2009 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
IQ:
Of course you know my Venus is at 22 Degrees Pisces.
Check it out I was just taking a look at the Draconic Synastry becaue DD mentioned it and it is time to look it. (Hold your breathe DD, lol)
Anywho my Ascendant is at 21 Pisces. Dead on Tameem. And your current incarnation Aries Ascendant is conjunct my Isis and Lucifer and opposing my DNA.

DD,
Add this to the list DW Atronomia conjunct Venus. Check it out.
Astrowizard is wide for your taste but conjunct energy wise, and also falling on that hotspot we have have in Sagitarrius near my DC, anything touching that I intuit has to do with our past life as Royalty I am sure of it now, because my King is exactly conjunct my Moon in that connection.
And your King is conjunct your Sun.
So rivetting this story is, if we can every fill in the gaps through ,memory recall, which for sure is next, Im sure we could write books, and tell history as it should be told and not the way it has been told to us.
Also look at our Queens loosely opposing our Saturns, another damn DW involving Saturn.
lol
The orbs are consistantly tight for you and loose for me. To me that means that you have a closer energetic connection to those life lines. Perhaps I have incarnated more than you, and so my Karma has worked farther away from those life lines. I am not sure but that is a clear pattern, spot on orbs for you and loose for me, ........strange.
Maybe becaue we knew you would need more concrete proof or you would put your wet blanket over it. lol Just teasin ......whoa I almost typed "love" ...

Oh I just landed a major speaking part on a B List Television show Pilot yesterday.
13 Episodes are to be shot and the casting Director told my agent I "blew" him away yesterday when I auditoned for my role. Its only for a day player role, but its about 5-10 mins of air time and 6 pages of lines, my most to date. And I landed it off an audition, no "who you know", which gives me confidence in my talent, because hell you can think you have all the talent in the world, but it doesnt matter if others who have the power dont, lol.
But this audition was new for me, to go into an audition, man handle it and then just absolutely nail it, no nerves involved is quite empowering and only because I am more sure than ever that this is what I was meant to do, and there is no power in the Universe that can stop it if it is my lifepath, I know that now, and I believe it, and the believing part has made all the difference. My mind is stronger and so is my energy.
I wonder if its anything to do with the Saturn square Neptune being activated through thoughts.

Tameem I will check out the rest of those hotspots and see what I come up with.


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posted September 19, 2009 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
DD:
I have a few minutes so I wanted to go back through and respond to some of things you said that I have not responded too, just to catch up.

"What do "celebrities" have to do with it? Except for the fact that you are going to become one yourself."
Im not sure, but you have a certain fascination with them that I dont have at all. And yet that is where I am going. And inevitably, as my career expands and I begin to travel, we will be able to develop a physical friendship as well. Perhaps your fascination is that you will be amongst them one day. Who knows anymore. lol Look at you and I, I had an idea, but now I realize I had nooooo clue! lol

"Well, this one is definitely interesting. Maybe it signifies either something spiritual or delusional? Have we been completely honest with ourselves?
Or is it just that gentle spiritual compassionate quality?"

Karma opposing Neptune. Its your Karma opposing my Neptune again in the 4th and 10th houses. My Neptune is conjunct my Moon and King Asteroid. It doesnt feel like deception. Only because in my Chart my Neptune maybe give me rose colored glasses but thats only in day to day situations, keeps me from coming down to other peoples levesl. But I have always been very honest with myself. Perhaps in the Arian and Virgo energy so prevalant in my Nature. And it is in a mutable Axis of energy specifically Gem and Sag. It was the instituion of some form of Worship or a belief system. Thats just my take on it. Its out there, but I have been getting that message quite clear as of late, even before discussing this with you.


"And I am a bit worried what the transiting Saturn, Sun, Moon - Uranus-opposition will do to me, as it is exactly squaring my Sun and Mercury. (it is only 0 degree and 3 minutes from exact square to my sun).


I am still transforming btw. In major ways. If anything scares me, then it is that more than any psychic or astrological gift I may posess.
But it doesn`t REALLY scare me, it was about time. lol"

Maybe that is what I sense about you. Transformation can be at the same time scary and strengthening. You know why? Because part of you is dying. Old thinking patterns are dying and that is scary because its like looking at the monster in the closet. But you will be fine hon, you already know theres not really a monster there at all.

" did you see we have an interaspect between all of them, even though it is always the same planet connecting"
I didnt until you pointed that out. What do you think that means. That the foundation for the connection is solid, and consitant. Because many lifelines of interaction?

IQ:
I m glad you mentioned that about Old Souls.
"Now this is Significant! Some of the Oldest Souls on Earth are from Arcturus. When I mean old soul, I mean these guys have had very early incarnations on earth. It is not that they are better or worse than others, but the Old Souls are the early starters and pioneers in the Earth Experiment."

That is the perfect description of an old soul. You know why? Because it shows that an old soul is just that old. Not better. Wiser maybe because you have learned how to play the game of Life better but thats it.
And there are no losers at this game.
Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. But you never really lose.


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posted September 19, 2009 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
btw where do you find the asteroid number for Arcturus pls?

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posted September 19, 2009 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,

"and also falling on that hotspot we have have in Sagitarrius near my DC, anything touching that I intuit has to do with our past life as Royalty"
It is well possible, it is very near to ANTARES, and that is not only one of the four royal fixed stars, but it was what the Babylonians measured their zodiac against. Or at least it played an important role in the beginning of astrology.


" I am sure of it now, because my King is exactly conjunct my Moon in that connection"
That`s not real!

My King is on 26°36 Sagittarius exactly conjunct my Sun! (and the bunch of other asteroids I have there).


"And your King is conjunct your Sun."
Oh I see. You already checked.


"So rivetting this story is, if we can every fill in the gaps through ,memory recall, which for sure is next, Im sure we could write books, and tell history as it should be told and not the way it has been told to us."
Yes, I am sure of that.
And the hanging gardens definitely existed. It`s like I still can smell the fragrance.

"Also look at our Queens loosely opposing our Saturns, another damn DW involving Saturn."
Karma. Karma. Karma.

"The orbs are consistantly tight for you and loose for me. To me that means that you have a closer energetic connection to those life lines."
That could be.


" Perhaps I have incarnated more than you, and so my Karma has worked farther away from those life lines."
Interesting you say that, cause I have the feeling there was a "break" after my Babylonian lives (there were more than one I guess).


"Just teasin ......whoa I almost typed "love" ..."
No need to be shy now, after a life time of Kaali-Hekate-action. lol
(Don`t know why I said that. But look at that. Your Hekate. On my Karma. Exact. Whoa)

"Oh I just landed a major speaking part on a B List Television show Pilot yesterday. "
That is so great. I was just thinking about when I will be able to see you on TV.
I am so proud of you.
Is there already a title for the show? Or are you not allowed to tell?


"But this audition was new for me, to go into an audition, man handle it and then just absolutely nail it,"
That is so great.

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posted September 19, 2009 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
ORBM,

"Im not sure, but you have a certain fascination with them that I dont have at all."
Well, I`d say I have a fascination with actors and singers. Because they are bringing emotions across as they do, they are expressive, touching people at a deep level.
In a way it is like I am fascinated with music, too.
They fill me with that sense of wonder, like a child, and that is when I can feel most myself. Maybe that is the root of my fascination. That somehow by watching them, I am connecting with myself in an even more profound way. Does that make sense to you?
It is difficult to explain.

And I love life performances much more than the movies. They are a substitute for the experience. I usually can appreciate them on an analytical level, but the theatre performance, that feels so close and emotional to me. A film or a filmactor rarely manages to grip me like that, but if they do, then it is something very special.


" as my career expands and I begin to travel, we will be able to develop a physical friendship as well.
Ever thought about playing something on stage?
I am the perfect audience. REally. I have a true talent for being audience.

" But I have always been very honest with myself
That is very important for me, too.
I think for someone with such strong NeptuneAn, as we both are, it is the only way to not fall into Neptune`s deceptive traps. We MUST be honest with ourselves. Always. No matter how much it hurts.


And then we can get the access to Neptune`s spirituality, this feeling of faith and the creative fantasy.
Probably your Neptune is one of the reason why you are such a good actor. I know I have not seen you yet, but I just KNOW you are.

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posted September 19, 2009 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message

" Transformation can be at the same time scary and strengthening."
Yes, but I really welcome it into my life now.


" You know why? Because part of you is dying. Old thinking patterns are dying"
That is exactly how I see it, how it feels. And then you are surprised that some parts seem to never die. And some cords can`t be cut. It`s an interesting experience actually.

But yes, I transform, and I am thankful for all the things that this universe has been offering me, especially in the last months, when I have been open for it. Things have happened, that are just impossible.
But then I guess almost nothing is impossible.

"I didnt until you pointed that out. What do you think that means. That the foundation for the connection is solid, and consitant. Because many lifelines of interaction?"
Maybe.

It definitely means that there is a connection at the core of our being.
But since it is the same planets that are connected, it might not be so much of Yin-Yang nature, but more familiarity.

"Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. But you never really lose. "
I love that!


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