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Topic: Mastering the Principles of Asteroids
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aquarian/scorpio Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Middle Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 04:49 AM
"I want to point out that the asteroid was named after an astronomer"Ah thanks for information the Raymond  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 05:17 AM
Let me look at some actors:Jude Law: SUN conjunct KAALI and PAVATI widely opposing OSIRIS and VALENTINE Antonio Banderas: SUN conjunct KAALI (both on 18 Leo)
Brad Pitt: SUN conjunct PSYCHE, DESTINN and LILITH
(No conjunction to Kaali, but KAALI sits on his NN) Kyle Schmid: SUN conjunct ISIS, VESTA, JUNO and NESSUS Laurence Olivier: SUN conjunct SHAKESEARE
Kyle Mac Lachlan: SUN widely conjunct Shakespeare (he played Claudius in the Hamlet-film once) also conjunct ANGEL, both on 3°35 Pisces!
Madonna: SUN conjunct HEKATE
Paul Newman: SUN conjunct Shakespeare
Robert Downey Jr: SUn conjunct LILITH
Spencer Tracey: SUN conjunct DESTINN
Katherine Hepburn: SUN conjunct VESTA
Lambert Wilson: SUN conjunct URANUS and PALLAS Paul Kribbe: SUN conjunct ACTOR (both on 16 Aries) and PALLAS STuart Townsend: SUN conjunct BML
BTW wouldn`t the asteroids conjunct MOON, ASC and NN be significant, too?
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pire Knowflake Posts: 549 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 06:27 AM
DD, i think so but in a different way; lutetia (i.e. paris) is 0'02 from my moon and when i am in paris i feel TOTALLY wonderful.i think conjonctions to the sun are an indiscossiable from who we are. in a totally unconscious way. like in a house, they would be part of the elements that make the wall, the structure; bricks or stones or wood. ABC, i know one mars in cap, he's a scorpio and my lust conjunt his sun; we talk about sex only bc he's into girls but what i get is that he's a great fùck. and i trust him *sigh*
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 06:50 AM
Pire, yes that makes sense. I just noticed, that many actors have strA ong conjunctions to their natal Moons, often it will actually be the asteroid "Actor". Like in Keanu Reeves`s case. He has Actor conjunct Moon, Venus and Mars. Oh and yes, I guess, we can`t have everything in life. *sigh* A lesson I am still trying to learn.
But for a Sagittarius it is a real tough one, cause deep inside I believe that everyone deserves everything and can get everything. This whole "Nothing is impossible" feeling, when I know from experience that it is not true. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 06:58 AM
BTW Mars in Cap and Sun in Scorpio sounds really intense and very appealing to my Venus in Cap squaring Pluto. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1784 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 07:06 AM
DDSounds like your Aquarius Moon to me. That whole "don't tell me I can't do that" thing. You want to show them that, well, actually, it can be done. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 07:39 AM
Yes, PA, I guess both signs have that attitude about them. Sag just believes anything is possible, and don`t dare to tell an Aqua that something isn`t. I think Aries could fall into that category, too, and as you know I have a bunch of planets in ARies in Draco zodiac. I just can`t put up with the information: No, you can`t do it. Forget it.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1784 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 07:41 AM
You don't have to tell me, sister. With all my Aries and that Aqua Moon and Uranus opposite Sun & AC, it's like this: "don't tell me what to do" AND "don't tell me what to not do". Got it!  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1493 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 10:40 AM
"BTW wouldn`t the asteroids conjunct MOON, ASC and NN be significant, too?"Yes minor planets conjunct Moon,Ascendant,Descendant,Imum Coeli,and Midheaven would be more significant than the Sun because those depend on birth times, especially if just using 1 degree orbs. They are more personal than the Sun. Even though Winona Ryder and I were born on the same day, she and I wouldn't have the same minor planets conjunct those Moon and the angles within 1 degree because she's born at a different time and place.
I hope that I don't have a 100 minor planets on my Moon. hahahahaha The ones that I find significant are Lancelot and Hermes,and both of those are almost exactly conjunct my Moon. Raymond
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 10:47 AM
Glaucus,"minor planets conjunct Moon,Ascendant,Descendant,Imum Coeli,and Midheaven would be more significant than the Sun because those depend on birth times, especially if just using 1 degree orbs. " My thoughts exactly.  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1493 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 11:28 AM
Thanks to Philip Sedgwick, I have gained interest in Heliocentric Astrology. I have his book, Sun At The Center. In heliocentric astrology, he takes object-object aspects,object-midpoint aspects,object-perihelion/aphelion axis aspects,object-node axis aspects There is no Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli,Lunar Nodes,nor Moon in this system. Definitely no vertex/antivertex used either. Instead of the Sun, the Earth is the focal planet in the heliocentric chart. That's just the exact opposite placement of the Sun in the geocentric chart. Therefore, heliocentric nodes in aspect to the Sun are more significant than heliocentric nodes in aspecting other geocentric planets,angles. the parallels and contraparallels used are the ecliptical latitude coordinates and not the declinations. Those have to be given small orbs than declinations. no more than 15 minutes of arc. I prefer using no more than 10 minutes of arc.
Raymond
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 11:31 AM
Glaucus,have you found the Heliocentric aspects as valid as the geocentric ones? Or are there differences in how intensely they are felt? Do we interprete heliocentric aspects the same way as geocentric ones? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1493 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2009 11:48 AM
I will create a new thread on heliocentric Astrology. I definitely recommend Philip Sedgwick's book for anybody who wants to learn Heliocentric Astrology. Raymond
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DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2009 10:18 AM
Jonnhy has his Sun conjunct Kleopatra and also Sun cj ADONIS  IP: Logged |
squirrel Knowflake Posts: 5 From: Europe Registered: Jul 2009
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posted September 21, 2009 11:58 AM
Hi, sorry to interrupt, but does anyone know something about natal Venus conjunct Apollo ?IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 479 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2009 03:55 PM
Thanks for posting so many updates, will quickly add some points for every individual. And many thanks to Raymond for the Riyal software link.PeaceAngel: I dont know yet of a famous person with Sun conjunct Psyche. Such a person would be a master of feminine emotions and should be able to master the knowledge how a woman in love behaves. MVM: Sun conjunct ISIS would enhance the knowledge of the Divine Feminine Principles represented by goddess ISIS. She is the seeker of the divided Divine Masculine Principles (OSIRIS) and the mother of Justice, Peace and Harmony (HORUS). It is also symbolic of a very strong Egyptian principle. Such a person definitely has a past life in Ancient Egypt and that too in a prominent position. It is kind of cool that you are Egyptian in the present lifeline  VenusinGemini: You can become a very insightful astrologer of 8th House Karmic Principles. You are one of the rare, brave individuals who fearlessly recalls even difficult past lifelines hence you can discover excellent karmic astrology concepts. Unmoved: With Sun conjunct Anubis (0), Midas (1), Proserpina (0), Bach(2), Circe, Reiki and Pythagoras, you will be able to integrate and learn: 1. The Journey of the Soul's experiential riches as it seeks its Soulmate through mathematically/astrologically precise and harmonious spiritual magic. 2. Mastering attraction of prosperity and wealth using occult magical principles like Law of Attraction. ORBM: Very nice interp on Anubis! Mscandeh: Excellent observation on Pachelbel. Had Sun been conjunct "Santana", you would have been drawn to the guitar. NYMPHE in your case gives the transmuted sexual energy for maxmizing your musical skills. The observation of Orwell is not a coincidence either. You will gain insights from his other books too or from his life path. Lara: You are goddess material and may secretly like to be a muse of the secret agent type alpha males  AerialCircus: Sun conj Valentine and Breide is a very powerful boost to marrying a loving soulmate in this lifeline. Pire: Sun conj Heracles(5143) by 0'10 and Indulgentia(90703) by 0'15 bestows a sense of heroism and will help in the undertaking on tough projects and enjoying their positive fruits. DD: Have already interpreted this excellent Hot Spot in your chart. It is a very prominent Past Lifeline, you are Spiritually a royal bloodline. I actually want you to show your picture to the psychically gifted [like Venus in Gemini], they may recall your royal incarnations just by meditating on your picture.
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iQ Knowflake Posts: 479 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2009 03:56 PM
contd:Aqua/Scorp: I have Balam conj Ascendant and Lucifer trine Transylvania exact with Transylvania on the 29 degrees of Capricorn [illuminati] and Lucifer in 0 Libra conjunct Super Galactic Centre. Since I am not the Devil and am not having a few hundred billion pounds stashed in tax havens, it could mean that my parallel lifeline either in this lifeline or in another multiverse is of a very evil scumbag who is near the top of the Illuminati Pyramid. Or Maybe I challenged this scumbag in the 4th Dimension ala "Mortal Kombat" and lost very badly... Songwriter: Sun conj HARMONIA conj ERIS conj CUPIDO conj MC conj ANTEROS conj AMOR, this is an excellent packet of Energy for using love to convert chaotic energy into harmony in your career. DowntoMars: Destinn (orb 1), Karma (orb 1) and Memoria (orb 0) conjunct Sun in the 7th house: Fated to have excellent memory, possibly even past life recalls. Possibly fated to have a great destiny  Katatonic: merlin conj sun , this is the placement to have a magical life of your freewill.
Amowls: PANDORA conj ASC is not good, it indicates plenty of of unwarranted and accidental troubles in life. Sun conj Atlantis is 100% indication of an Atlantean Past Lifeline and the Lilith Opposition here indicates some naughty actvities in that lifeline. Diable: Aphrodite conjunct Sun 0º +Sappho conjunct Sun 0º +Alma conjunct Sun 0º, this is a very very sexy aspect. Your Soul will attract many girls who value the harmony and beauty of the female body and all things feminine. It can indicate a curiosity for Lesbianism as well or maybe you will be hit upon by Lesbians. You may also look as hot as a Showstopping model in Milan fashion week or a Victoria Silvestedt type. Jane: MOIRA ...16.57 (our fate, destiny) CUPID ...16.48 DNA .......15.58 : Fated to be in love withn one who will match your genetic requirements the most. DD: Thanks for the splendid list. Madonna conjunct Hekate is extremely pertinent, she may be a reincarnation of that Astral being. Thats why she has so much human mindspace from relative obscurity and is now into the Kabbalah. She triggered billions with the kiss to Britney Spears. Jude LAw and Banderas show the positive of Sun conjunct Kaali. And yes, conjuncitons to Asc, NN and Moon are significant. I wanted to start the leanring using the Sun, and this will help everyone tap into their respective Asteroid Potential be it conjunct Moon or Mars or Mercury or Venus etc etc. The whole thing is that we see the Asteroid Name Frequency and LAw of Attraction thing at work here when we find the relevant ones out of 100 or so conjunct the Sun. =========================================== P.S: Further questions to the questions thread please, I will interpret the most pertinent aspects when I find time. Cheers all! ------------------ Soul Mate Love Calculator http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2009 03:59 PM
IQ,ViG already knows my picture, actually we have found out not too long ago, that we shared a past life, in which I was her mother. But I don`t think we have been royal then. She even felt a connection to someone I just showed her a pic of (she never has had any connection to him in this life). I hope it is okay that I tell that here, ViG. If not, I will take it off again.
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iQ Knowflake Posts: 479 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2009 06:31 AM
11th May 1998: India conducts the Pokhran 2 Nuclear Test and becomes a full fledged Nuclear Power along with US, Russia, China, Britain, France and Israel. The Operation was named "Shakthi", an epithet of goddess Kaali's positive form of Power.In the Natal Chart of the event, we see: KAALI conjunct Moon KAALI square BHARAT [Bharat is the Hindi name for India] And very interestingly, Asteroid INDIANA is conjunct LUCIFER. Indiana refers to the American State but it is also the only Asteroid with the name INDIA in correct sequence. This shows the effect of Name Frequency Pattern in Asteroids. Interestingly, India's first Nuclear Test was carried our in 18th May 1974 and was named Opeation "Smiling Budda". Asteroid BUDA was trine KAALI that day and INDIANA was square Moon.... IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1784 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2009 08:31 AM
quote: I dont know yet of a famous person with Sun conjunct Psyche. Such a person would be a master of feminine emotions and should be able to master the knowledge how a woman in love behaves.
Thanks for the answer IQ. IP: Logged |
Diabla Knowflake Posts: 126 From: The Stars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2009 02:27 PM
Thanks IQ for the feedback!!  You said: "Diable: this is a very very sexy aspect. Your Soul will attract many girls who value the harmony and beauty of the female body and all things feminine. It can indicate a curiosity for Lesbianism as well or maybe you will be hit upon by Lesbians. You may also look as hot as a Showstopping model in Milan fashion week or a Victoria Silvestedt type." You are right, I have wonderful rapport with women - I have plenty of very feminine and beautiful female friends from all ages. And I'm straight.  All my life I did get along MUCH much better with women than men. (I mean I do have male friends but I make special connection with females). Plus they all seem to come out from nowhere when I'm in need of help. (and I also relate that with my 11th house with neptune and jupiter). Apart from that I think the aspect of Sappho I identified myself with is the creativity. I used to write poetry a lot in my younger years. But not anymore. However I always channel my creative skills for differnt works. =) As far as looks- I think I'm good looking and in shape! - but not the "Model material". Otherwise I would already be exploiting that!  IP: Logged |
songwriter Knowflake Posts: 226 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2009 02:38 PM
"Sun conj HARMONIA conj ERIS conj CUPIDO conj MC conj ANTEROS conj AMOR, this is an excellent packet of Energy for using love to convert chaotic energy into harmony in your career."I'll thoughtfully study their mythologies to understand in what way and how I can use love to convert Eris' discordant energy into harmony in my works. Thanks for the insight, iQ. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2009 03:17 PM
I´ve found some near angles and specially in my 11h Stellium;what does it might indicate pleasE?Pallas(r)cj IC Eros cj MC Aprhodite cj vesta cj PF cj NN Kalliope cj ASC Valentine cj Karma cj Artemis cj Nessus in 11H Atlantis cj Venus cj Asbolus i only have: WISDOM cj Sun and kikx Philosophia
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1493 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2009 03:27 PM
Eris can be other things besides discord and chaos thoughtake Zane Stein's keywords for instance: Loss of innocence, entrance into adulthood; child's trauma being separated from parent; acceptance of unavoidable changes; dying and being reborn (as opposed to Pluto which rules the causes/processes of death and rebirth); internal split causing longing to be whole, the longing of the soul for its other half; the subject/object of a debate, argument, competition, conflict or war...what stirs people to fight or disagree; fighting for one's rights; strife and discord; pitting one side against the other; competition, contests and tournaments; struggles for supremacy; rivalry; a test of skills or abilities; love of fighting or debate; what one has at stake in a competition, dispute or conflict, or one's perspective of what is being fought over; refusing to relinquish one's hold on an ideal, belief, cause, or object...'not budging an inch'; the problems resulting from irreconcilable differences; contrasting different perspectives; comparing thesis and antithesis in the search for truth; contrasting opposing viewpoints to reveal each side more clearly, to seek similarities as well as differences; contrasting logical thought processes to show the limitations of logic; identifying with, or trying to understand, first principles; incongruous juxtapositions to force one to think outside of the box; the ethics connected with one's motives and methods, and the coming to light of less than spotless methods; the roots of one's motivations; piracy, defrauding, swindling; society's ethics; race intent. http://zanestein.com/keywords.html#Eris Eris has a Persephone/Proserpina-like orbit which Eris' co-discoverer Michael Brown pointed out,and so Zane added Persephone/Proserpina symbolism to his keywords.
Michael Brown seemed to give the clue to Eris' meaning
“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/scie nce/15xenacnd.html?ei=5088&en=76e98768560a96c2&ex=1315886400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all When a new object is discovered the International Astronomical Union (IAU) gives it a temporary designation based on the date it was first seen. Thus 2003 UB313 can be decoded to tell you that the data from which the object was discovered was obtained in the second half of October 2003. Next, depending on what the object is, the discoverers propose a certain type of permanent name.
Interestingly, there are no actual rules for how to name a planet (presumably because no one expected there to be more). All of the other planets are named for Greek or Roman gods, so an obvious suggestion is to attempt to find such a name for the new planet. Unfortunately, most of the Greek or Roman god names (particularly those associated with creation, which tend to be the major gods) were used back when the first asteroids were being discovered. If a name is already taken by an asteroid, the IAU would not allow that name to be used again. One such particularly apt name would have been Persephone. In Greek mythology Persephone is the (forcibly abducted) wife of Hades (Roman Pluto) who spends six months each year underground close to Hades. The new planet is on an orbit that could be described in similar terms; half of the time it is in the vicinity of Pluto and half of the time much further away. Sadly, the name Persephone was used in 1895 as a name for the 399th known asteroid. The perhaps more appropriate Roman version of the name, Proserpina, was used even earlier for the 26th known asteroid. The same story can be told for almost any other Greek or Roman god of any consequence. One exception to this name depletion is the Roman god Vulcan (Greek Haphaestus), the god of fire. Astronomers have long reserved that term, however, for a once hypothetical (now known to be nonexistent) planet closer to the sun than Mercury (god of fire, near the sun, good name). We would not want to use such a name to describe such a cold body as our new planet! http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/ the astrological characteristics of Uranus fit with Prometheus more than Uranus/Ouranos and the astrological characteristics of Neptune fit with Bacchus/Dionyssus than Neptune/Poseidon.
Equality stuff fits with Persephone/Proserpina with Pluto/Hades and Demeter/Ceres having to split time with her. It was Eris' discovery that led to Pluto and Ceres being equals as dwarf planets.
Raymond
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1784 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2009 05:29 AM
I'm glad I came back to this thread. Now wouold be a good time to confess having Sun conjunct Eris then. Also conjunct Rockefellia and Ramses for the Egyptian touch.IP: Logged | |