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jane
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posted September 20, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message

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posted September 20, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
and it's beautiful!

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posted September 20, 2009 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
My Saturn Return is only a week away. This is my Saturn Return chart:

How's it look to you?

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posted September 20, 2009 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure how to greet Saturn.

Fight him?

Play dead?

Plead for mercy?

Get him drunk and have my way with him?

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posted September 20, 2009 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Now that I've emptied my photobucket account ...

What I'm interested in is have any of you found your Saturn Return charts revealing? Solar Returns supposedly tell us what our year will be like, so does our Saturn Return chart tell us what the next 28 or so years will be like?

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posted September 20, 2009 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
WOW i love your venus on IC and moon/nn conjunct hehe

Moon as chart ruler cj NN could be a year of emotional lessons, seeing as they are spanning both houses?

Pluto in 6th/7th cusp? no idea but looks a bit concerning?...

4th house stellium and cancer ac is very homely and loving.

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posted September 20, 2009 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Lara! I appreciate your fresh eyes. Like we always are with our own stuff, I think I'm too close to it to see it clearly.

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posted September 20, 2009 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
interesting question, especially since my recent saturn return took THREE passes to completion...

i would say best way to meet it is to do the work it throws at you and if possible, have a good time too! i had fun on my return last year, it was more celebration than anything really.

first time around i was working my arse off, but at what i wanted to do, and completing a year's courtship which became a marriage...

but saturn returns are problematic as charts because of the back-and-forth thing, no? and they take longer than a moment...i mean the solar return is ONE specific moment, or are there NO retrograde passes on yours?

but i see POF on the MC and vertex in 5th, maybe your strength is at home but you need to get out and create a niche for yourself in the outside world...

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posted September 20, 2009 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
welcome. Not sure how much help i am but i missed the PART OF FORTUNE on the MC


WOWZER!!!!!!!

THAT must mean a stunningly fortunate year in your career.

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posted September 20, 2009 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Good point. I will check.

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posted September 20, 2009 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
kat -

Looks like Saturn will go retrograde, but will stop before it crosses my n.Saturn again. My Saturn is at 26º17'00" and it switches back to direct at 27.50.

Interesting about home/work conflict. In my natal, I have my SN in my 4th house, NN obviously in the 10th. I'm not someone who's avoided the working world though. I need it, it invigorates me. Probably because my Moon is in my 10th. But I do need to be more driven, definitely.

Lara -
You missed the PoF because it wasn't there, sorry. That first one wasn't the version I meant to post. I reposted, without the original asteroids and with the PoF and Vertex. ETA: And you were a big help - I hadn't even noticed the Moon as the chart ruler until you pointed that out.

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posted September 20, 2009 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
kat -

Doh, just got all of what you meant about needing the exact moment of the return. Yes, this is the exact time when t.Saturn matches my n.Saturn, down to the second. If I make the time one minute earlier, Saturn is at 26º16'59".

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posted September 21, 2009 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
oh jane, you`re killing me!

Sorry, I saw that pic and my brain stopped working.


Interesting idea about the Saturn return being significant for the next 28 years. I will have a look.

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posted September 22, 2009 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn Return will play out over 2 weeks to 2 months, it does not work like a precision Lunar Transit.

Note the most important thing about your Natal Saturn and the Transit: Saturn is exactly square the Galactic Centre in 26 Sag.

Saturn will make you introspect about your Galactic Level Soul Purpose. You may get awareness of your multidimensionality.
An average couch potato soul may actualize this transit by watching "Star Trek", and the dvd will get stuck.
Refined souls are made to think further. You may meet a UFO Junkie. Your friend may see a UFO or discover hidden evidence about advanced civilizations. You yourself may begin to philosophize more on what it would be like to be in an advanced intergalactic level society without taxes, greed and death.


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posted September 22, 2009 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I always wondered if Saturn Returns can be 29 year forecasts myself.

My Saturn Return was on May 31, 2001

Saturn is the most prominent planet in my chart.

My retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th (10th in whole sign house system)
conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini....that also means my Saturn is in a Gauquelin sector.
conjunct my retrograde Varuna (transneptunian dwarf planet candidate) in 3'01 Gemini in 9th (10th in whole sign house system)
oppose my Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd (4th in whole sign house system)
oppose my Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd (4th in whole sign house system)
square my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th (7th in whole sign house system)
quincunx my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd (3rd in whole sign house system)
quincunx my Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd (3rd in whole sign house system)


parallel Mercury - '38 applying
parallel Venus - '52 applying
contraparallel Neptune - '03

I have a Saturn-Neptune occultation


in Right Ascension:

square Moon - '48 separating
square Mars - 4'35 appling
semisquare Eris (transneptunian dwarf planet) - '56 separating
semisextile Sedna - '10 separating

I have Moon semisquare Eris with '07. Therefore I have Moon,Saturn,Eris in 8th harmonic triangle with corresponding midpoint picture of Eris conjunct Moon/Saturn midpoint with 32 mintues of arc.

corresponding midpoint picture of


It was a very challenging Saturn Return period. I don't want to ever have a Saturn Return like that ever again.

Transiting retrograde Pluto was in my 4th house and squaring my Ascendant at the time.

As for my last Saturn Return, ummmmm....it was a bit challenging. I was living with my mom, having a hard time adjusting to civilian life. I was going to a training school to be a pharmacy technician. I dropped the course when my pharmacy teacher confronted me and asked me if I had reading a problem in front of people. It made me feel very stupid. This was a time before I didn't know that I had Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD which I realized that I had in 2003. I just thought I was stupid, and so I felt like the teacher was confirming my stupidity in front of other students.. Work wasn't good either. I had hard time dealing with jobs. The woman that I was very attracted to rejected me for another guy. He was all wrong for her,and it was 2004 when she realized what a real jerk he was. My mother was diagnosed as having diabetes. I had a lot of problems with her too. She and I didn't get along. It was like old times with her. I had an abusive past with her. She wrote checks in my my name and cashed them too. She and I had such an intense argument one time that she threatened to kill me too. She was diagnosed as having diabetes around that time too. She was in pain a lot,and wouldn't go to the doctor. I was in a really depressing,emotionally draining atmosphere.

Raymond

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jane
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posted September 30, 2009 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Replies! Thank you.

DD -
lol. You're the only reason that pic was even in my photobucket account.

iQ -
Thanks for the info.

Interesting you should mention 26º. I recently noticed my prenatal new moon and all my progressed new moons occurring at that degree. (When I was 10, it occurred at 26º Sag.) Have you looked into progressed new moons at all?

(((Raymond))) -
I'm sorry you went through all that.

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