posted September 24, 2009 05:26 PM         

And draconic...

I am going to check the orbs on some of the more intriguing aspects, go ahead and start posting your thoughts!

posted September 24, 2009 05:32 PM         

Glaucus,

I have done some more reading on Ixion and I am thinking you might be onto something with the "fighting for Cuban rights" thing.

Look at this:

Ixion--
Potential themes: Tyranny, control and ownership of the feminine, deceit and attempted annihilation between authoritarian figureheads, the taking of kindred blood.

-AND-

"Ixion brings the theme of dark, abusive and most of all unrepentant behavior. It is the 'unredeemable' aspect of human nature and 'that which we are all capable of'. I am going to presume that Ixion is a kind of ascended master whose job it is to assist us in healing the damage that was done."

-AND-

"Ixion at the least would also seem to be related to the suppression, manipulation, and the exploitation of women. And more specifically about those in authoritarian positions being brought to justice for deeds involving the suppression and manipulation of people, especially women, as well as the the tyrannical destruction of people for one own end. It would also seem to be prominent in malicious and deceptive power-plays between authoritarian figureheads; and drawn out with karmic repercussion."

posted September 24, 2009 05:41 PM         

My Sun conjunct true Black Moon Lilith indicates my strongly liberal, feminist nature

My Sun conjunct South Eris Node indicates strong emphasis on diversity/divergence,equality,and advocacy

one of Zane Stein's keywords for Eris was fighting for one's rights

Zane Stein's keywords for Eris:
Loss of innocence, entrance into adulthood; child's trauma being separated from parent; acceptance of unavoidable changes; dying and being reborn (as opposed to Pluto which rules the causes/processes of death and rebirth); internal split causing longing to be whole, the longing of the soul for its other half; the subject/object of a debate, argument, competition, conflict or war...what stirs people to fight or disagree; fighting for one's rights; strife and discord; pitting one side against the other; competition, contests and tournaments; struggles for supremacy; rivalry; a test of skills or abilities; love of fighting or debate; what one has at stake in a competition, dispute or conflict, or one's perspective of what is being fought over; refusing to relinquish one's hold on an ideal, belief, cause, or object...'not budging an inch'; the problems resulting from irreconcilable differences; contrasting different perspectives; comparing thesis and antithesis in the search for truth; contrasting opposing viewpoints to reveal each side more clearly, to seek similarities as well as differences; contrasting logical thought processes to show the limitations of logic; identifying with, or trying to understand, first principles; incongruous juxtapositions to force one to think outside of the box; the ethics connected with one's motives and methods, and the coming to light of less than spotless methods; the roots of one's motivations; piracy, defrauding, swindling; society's ethics; race intent.

one of Roy MacKinnon's keywords for Eris was power abuse of minorities

Roy MacKinnon's Eris keywords:
Striving to achieve one's goals and refusing to capitulate to the pressure of unjust treatment and discord from abusive authority : with great inner conviction and single-mindedness of purpose following a path of high attainment and enlightenment notwithstanding adversity - alternatively refusing the call to transform with mediocrity and underachievement as consequences: issues around power abuse of minorities, the defenseless, the alien: networks, multinational countries and companies, the world- wide web: piracy, terrorism, clash of ideologies: conflict between desires of personality and pursuit of the inner call: persecution of the spiritually aware person who stands alone courageously acting according to conscience: an outstanding individual ahead of the times.

I already found my life purpose as a neuro-diversity advocate that wants to start a nonprofit neuro-diversity organization. I was told by an intuitive consultant that my life purpose is to help the Indigo/Crystal children which are mainly metaphysically oriented neuro-divergents.

I am a member of NOW (National Organization for Women) which was founded on my birthday but 5 years before I was born. It has Sun conjunct South Eris Node too.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 24, 2009 06:01 PM         

Here's what I see in Whole Sign:
(all orbs within guidelines for soulmates)

Tropical
Her Sun conj his Juno (1)
His Sun conj her Venus (0)
His Sun quincunx her Psyche (0)
His Sun conjunct her true Lilith (0)
His Sun opp her Sedna (1)

Her Moon opp his Mercury (2)
Her Moon conj his PoF (0)
Her Moon trine his AC (2)
His Moon trine her Venus (2)
His Moon conj her AC (2)
His Moon trine her true Lilith (1)
*double whammy Moon/AC

Her Venus conj his true Lilith (0)
Her Venus conj his Ixion (0)
Her Venus sextile his Psyche (0)
Her Venus square his Amor (0)
His Venus opp her Chiron (0)
His Venus square her Psyche (1)
His Venus opp her Eros (0)
*double whammy Venus/Psyche

Her Mars trine his Jupiter (1)
Her Mars conj his South Node (0)
Her Mars trine his Chiron (0)
Her Mars sextile his MC (1)
His Mars square her Uranus (0)
His Mars trine her Pluto (2)
His Mars conj her Valentine (1)
His Mars sextile her Karma (0)

Her Jupiter conj his Uranus (0)
Her Jupiter conj his mean Black Moon Lilith (1)
Her Jupiter sextile his Ceres (1)
His Jupiter trine her Mars (1)

Her Saturn trine his True Node (0)
Her Saturn opp his Chiron (0)
Her Saturn opp his Eris (1)

Her Uranus sextile his Juno (0)
Her Uranus trine his Valentine (0)
His Uranus opp her Eris (0)
His Uranus quincunx her Orcus (0)
His Uranus trine her Varuna (1)

His Neptune conj her mean Black Moon Lilith (2)
His Neptune trine her True Node (1)
His Neptune trine her Orcus (1)
His Neptune square her Pallas (0)
His Neptune square her AC (0)

Her Pluto square his Orcus (0)
His Pluto sextile her mean Black Moon Lilith (1)
His Pluto sextile her True Node (0)
His Pluto quincunx her MC (0)

Her Chiron sextile his Orcus (0)

His Eris trine her MC (0)

Her Ixion sextile his AC (0)

Her Quaoar sextile his AC (0)

His Pallas square her AC (1)

Her Psyche quincunx his MC (0)

His Eros trine her AC (1)

Her Amor trine his AC (1)

Her AC trine his Quaoar (1)
His AC square her MC (0)

His Ceres trine her MC (1)

His MC opp her MC (1)

Draconic

Her dSun sextile his dSaturn (0)
Her dSun opp his dKarma (1)
Her dSun trine his dAmor (0)
His dSun trine her dNeptune (2)
His dSun opp her dPluto (1)
His dSun trine her dKarma (0)
*double whammy dSun/dKarma

Her dMoon square his dMars (0)
Her dMoon trine his dValentine (0)
His dMoon sextile her dMercury (2)
His dMoon trine her dNeptune (0)
His dMoon sextile her dPluto (0)
His dMoon square her dChiron (0)
His dMoon sextile her dPoF (0)
His dMoon sextile her dVesta (0)
His dMoon conj her dPsyche (0)
His dMoon square her dEros (1)

Her dMercury opp his dEros (1)
His dMercury opp her dVenus (2)
His dMercury square her dMars (1)
His dMercury opp her dJuno (1)
His dMercury conj her dSedna (0)

Her dVenus conj his dPoF (0)
Her dVenus trine his dAC (2)
His dVenus square her dMars (1)
His dVenus conj her dAmor (0)
His dVenus opp her dQuaoar (1)

Her dMars quincunx his dJupiter (0)
His dMars sextile her dJupiter (0)
His dMars trine her dUnion (1)
His dMars trine her dEris (0)
His dMars square her dIxion (1)
*double whammy Mars/Jupiter

His dJupiter opp her dUranus (1)
His dJupiter opp her dBlack Moon Lilith (1)
His dJupiter square her dValentine (0)
His dJupiter square her dAC (2)

His dSaturn conj her dUranus (2)
His dSaturn sextile her dCeres (1)
His dSaturn square her dPsyche (1)

Her dUranus square his dPsyche (1)
His dUranus quincunx her dVaruna (0)

Her dNeptune square his dPluto (1)
Her dNeptune square his dKarma (0)
His dNeptune conj her dChiron (1)
His dNeptune square her dPsyche (1)
His dNeptune conj her dEros (0)

Her dPluto square his dVesta (0)
Her dPluto trine his dPsyche (0)
Her dPluto square his dAmor (0)
His dPluto sextile her dEros (1)

Her dTrue Node sextile his dChiron (0)
Her dTrue Node trine his dMC (0)

Her dChiron opp his dPallas (0)
Her dChiron sextile his dVesta (0)
Her dChiron sextile his dKarma (0)
His dChiron sextile her dBlack Moon Lilith (0)
His dChiron quincunx her dMC (0)

Her dBlack Moon Lilith conj his dMC (1)

Her dPallas opp his dAC (1)
Her dPallas square his dMC (0)

Her dtrue Lilith trine his dAC (1)

His dPsyche quincunx her dMC (0)

Her dAC conj his dAC (2)
Her dAC square his dMC (0)

posted September 24, 2009 06:53 PM         

I was born at 3:20 AM

My Midheaven is in 11'14 Gemini
Sabian Symbol for 11-12 Gemini
A NEGRO GIRL FIGHTS FOR INDEPENDENCE IN THE CITY
'liberation from the ghosts of the past'

my Ascendant is in 13'27 Virgo
Sabian Symbol for 13 - 14 Virgo
AN ARISTOCRATIC FAMILY TREE
'a deep reliance upon the ancestral roots of individual nature'

my Vertex is in 14'58 Aquarius
Sabian Symbol for 14-15 Aquarius
TWO LOVEBIRDS SITTING ON A FENCE AND SINGING HAPPILY
'the blessing bestowed upon personal achievements by the spiritually fulfilled consciousness of the soul'

My Moon in 3'11 Pisces conjuncts your Ascendant in 3'32 Pisces with only 21 minutes of arc.
Our Moon-Ascendant conjunction is aligned with alpha Pisces Australis star,Fomalhaut (mine is 3'28 Pisces, and yours is 3'36 Pisces) and alpha Aquarius star,Sadalmelek (mine is in 3'22 Pisces and yours is in 3'30 Pisces. It is also in alignment with Ancha (mine is in 2'52 Pisces and yours is in 3'00 Pisces)
Sabian Symbol for 3-4 Pisces
HEAVY CAR TRAFFIC ON A NARROW ISTHMUS LINKING TWO SEASHORE RESORTS
'the mobility and intensity of interchanges which make possible and characterize complex social processes'

I guess you're using mean Black Moon Lilith,
your Venus in 5'46 Scorpio is conjunct my true Black Moon Lilith in 5'42 Scorpio with 4 minutes of arc as well as my Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio
Sabian Symbol for 5-6 Scorpio
THE GOLD RUSH TEARS MEN AWAY FROM THEIR NATIVE SOIL
'the passionate search for new values which,at any level,promise a more abundant life'

I am blown away by our connections!

what's your birthdata?

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 24, 2009 09:18 PM         

You have our Midheavens in opposition to 1 degree, but they actually are in opposition more than 3 degrees.

That's why I was suspecting that you were using the wrong birth time.

Thanks for your birthdata.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 24, 2009 09:24 PM         

I am confused

the chart that you have in your link has Ascendant in 3'32 Pisces

with the birthdata that you gave me, I calculated it on Solar Fire with the ascendant being 0'54 Pisces.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 24, 2009 09:32 PM         

I also added additional objects to my aspects posting above.

Using the correct AC, the Moon/AC orb is close enough to be counted (less than 3 degrees conjunction) but not as close as you originally thought. I'm not sure that it remains close enough to be counted as conjunct to the fixed stars you mentioned--don't fixed star conjunctions have to be exact? It would be nice if we could count that though.

Astro has your tMC at 11'14 Sagittarius, & mine is at 12'53 Sagittarius. Is that 11'14 Sagittarius wrong? That was calculated using the 3:20 AM birthtime and the whole house system.

posted September 24, 2009 10:33 PM         

quote:

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I already found my life purpose as a neuro-diversity advocate that wants to start a nonprofit neuro-diversity organization. I was told by an intuitive consultant that my life purpose is to help the Indigo/Crystal children which are mainly metaphysically oriented neuro-divergents.

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This sounds really interesting...I am familiar with the concept of Indigo/Crystal children but not neuro-diversity. What does that mean?

posted September 25, 2009 12:43 AM         

No.....it's not close enough. Fixed star conjunctions are usually giving orbs of no more than 1 degrees Certains stars like the brightest stars and the royal stars do tend to have larger orbs, especially when they involve the Sun and Moon.

"Astro has your tMC at 11'14 Sagittarius, & mine is at 12'53 Sagittarius. Is that 11'14 Sagittarius wrong? That was calculated using the 3:20 AM birthtime and the whole house system"

I wonder if you read it wrong. 11'14 Sagittarius is my IC. 11'14 Gemini is my MC. In house systems, Ascendant/Descendant axis and Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis stay the same. Doesn't matter what house system that it is.

"This sounds really interesting...I am familiar with the concept of Indigo/Crystal children but not neuro-diversity. What does that mean?"

Neuro-Diversity refers to the spectrum of neurological profiles describing how effective an individual is in processing information. This information comes in many forms, including written and spoken language, sounds, visual images, light, temperature, touch, texture and taste - as well as movement and co-ordination signals from the brain. The processing of all these things includes not only receiving and interpreting, but also transmitting, concentrating on and storing information. For most people, i.e., the Neuro-Typical (NT), the cognitive profile is relatively smooth, with little variation in effectiveness of information processing. This is in line with their general level of intellectual and reasoning ability.

In contrast, a minority of people, i.e. the Neuro-Diverse (NDs), have a cognitive profile, which shows many peaks and troughs, denoting significant disparity between the best and worst of their information processing (NB This is different from the case of having a uniform low level of performance throughout). The processing differences are present from birth, and are independent of any basic physical malfunctions, for example, of eyes, ears or limbs. It is thought that 10% of the population are significantly ND, with many more having some degree of neuro-divergence.

Put simply, ND people have had a condition from birth, which gives them difficulties in some basic skills areas, which cannot be explained by any physical disability or by their level of intellectual or reasoning ability. Specific Learning Difficulties and the, possibly more preferred term, Multi-Specific Processing Difficulties, are other ways of describing these problems.

NDs are more likely to be 'extreme machines' than NTs, that is, they are either brilliant or useless at things and rarely mediocre. They may, on occasion, appear to be average at some tasks. However, this may be due to brilliance at one aspect being cancelled out by being useless at another aspect of the same activity.

The rules of easy and difficult tend not to work for NDs, and in many cases are actually reversed. For some, complex mathematical analysis is 'a walk in the park', whereas an actual walk in the park (if they have to cross a busy road to get there and then cannot find the exit, when they remember that they should have been somewhere else half an hour ago, and the temperature is too hot for them to cope with) can be a nightmare.
http://www.danda.org.uk/pages/neuro-diversity.php

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 25, 2009 09:46 PM         

Here is my (very amateur--LOL) analysis of these aspects. Maybe someone who is skilled at interpreting past lives and soulmate connections will pop in to confirm or dispel these theories.

In the tropical, there is clearly evidence of a very heavy and intense emotional connection. This is evidenced by the double-whammy Moon/AC and the double-whammy Venus/Psyche. Both imply an ease of emotional communication, a willingness to be open and share, and a deep love, openness, and respect for each other. There is a danger of becoming too dependent on one another for emotional support. A soul connection and a willingness to delve into the past is also present. Based on these aspects, it is certain that we are past life soulmates.

While there are several true love aspects, I don't see any Saturn connections to personal planets or evidence of a strong sexual/physical attraction, so in this life, this relationship is not meant to develop into a romantic connection.

However, the draconic chart tells another story. I see an intense love with sexual aspects. It is likely that I was in love with you and you broke my heart. A heavy and lingering karmic tie remains from this lifeline. My instinctive feeling about some of these aspects is that we had a passionate affair, but you would not marry me. I may have felt deceived and victimized by this decision (perhaps I was a virgin?). I may have become very obsessed with you, maybe even stalked you.

That is all without me looking at the Transneptunians, because you know a lot more about that than I do. I can tell you where I am getting some of my interpretations if you want.

What do you think?

By the way, that information about the neuro-divergent is fascinating. It reminds me of some of the research that has been done on the inner brilliance of the autistic, etc. I'll have to some more research on Crystal/Indigo children to delve into why there would be such a high rate of ND among them. Thanks!

posted September 26, 2009 02:18 AM         

I read the book, THE CARE AND FEEDING OF THE INDIGO CHILD, and I did a critique on it at amazon.com. The more I read the book, the more that I was convinced that it was just neuro-divergence but put into New Age terms.
The only differences is that there was metaphysical,psychic abilities mentioned,and those aren't known characteristics of neuro-divergents. Those things would get neuro-divergents labeled as being psychotic. Many neuro-divergents have been diagnosed as having psychotic disorders like bipolar and schizophrenia. Learning disabilities and oversensitivity to environmental influences were listed as one of the common symptoms and traits of bipolar children in the book,THE BIPOLAR CHILD. There are many neuro-divergents tha tkeep psychic,metaphysical abilities to themselves to keep themselves from being diagnosed as psychotics. That's how I am. I am very private when it comes to this stuff. I don't even talk about this stuff in the forum. My Saturn makes hard aspects to my Neptune and all my waterplanets,and so that can indicate my refraining from being open about this stuff. From my experience,there are lot of neuro-divergents that are into metaphysical stuff. My shaman healer friend is a neuro-divergent like me,and he was in special education like me too. He told me that he can relate to the Indigo/Crystal stuff. Both my parents were neuro-divergents,and they are metaphysically oriented too.

as for no sexual,physical attraction, I disagree. Your Venus (planet of love,sensuality,attraction) is conjunct my Sun with 28 minutes of arc,and the conjunction is in the intense,sexual sign of Scorpio. Futhermore, I have a 5 minute Sun-Ixion conjunction aka cazimi (in the heart of the Sun). Ixion is a plutino which means that it has 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune. That means for every 3 times, Neptune orbits the Sun,plutinos orbit the Sun twice. Ixion's orbital period is 249.95 years, and Pluto's orbital period is 248.09 years. So Ixion's orbit is slightly slower than Pluto. Pluto is considered the largest of the plutinos followed by Orcus and Ixion. So you see, Ixion is very similar to Pluto astronomically. As a rule, astronomers name all plutinos after Underworld characters.

Ixion was king of the Lapiths which was the most ancient tribe in Thessaly. He was the first murderer in Greek mythology. He was the son of Ares.. He killed his father-in-law to avoid paying a marriage dowry. Nobody would purify him, but Zeus agreed to purify Ixion. Ixion came onto Hera,and she told Zeus about. Zeus decided to test Ixion,and so he created a fake Hera out of a cloud called Nephele. Ixion took the bait,and he he had sexual intercourse with who he thought was Hera. Later on, Ixion was bragging about having sex with the Queen of the Gods. Zeus had Hermes take Ixion to Tartarus which is the punishment area in the Underworld. Ixion was bound to a fiery wheel to spin forever. Out of the union of Ixion and Nephele,came Centaurus. Centaurus mated with a mare,and the centaurs were born. The centaurs were lusty just like their grandfather,Ixion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28978_Ixion

so yeah, Ixion is very lusty,sexual.

Your Venus conjunct my Ixion with 23 minutes of arc. That's like having Venus conjunct Pluto because Ixion is a plutino like Pluto.

My true Black Moon Lilith is in 5'42 Scorpio retrograde,and that conjuncts my Sun with 22 minutes of arc. From what I read, Black Moon has sexual,occult nature in connection to the Lilith myth. It is also a shadow lunar influence because it is the lunar apogee which means the distant point of the Moon's orbit from the Earth. So it has to do with emotions,sensitivity,intuition,unconscious,and women. Your Venus is conjunct my true Black Moon Lilith with 4 minutes of arc.

more information about true Black Moon Lilith is here. the astronomy behind it makes a lot of sense too.

"Astronomically, the Black Moon is an isolated point, a point of neglect, repression, fermentation, and "magical" transformations that belong to a phantasmal, nocturnal, and instinctive/erotic world. It contains all the more instinctual energies (including the atavistic wisdom and clairvoyance, which is dependent on bodily functions) deep within the psyche, of which sexuality is of course paramount, and which manifest themselves in fairy tales and in primitive lunar symbolism: the night, the mystery, the magic, the danger, the secret, the fear, that which is forbidden..." http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html

so yeah, Your Venus conjunct my Sun-Ixion-true Black Moon Lilith conjunction could be a very strong indicator for sexual,physical attraction,and it could feel a bit scary because of the intensity and passion that I have. My Saturn in 5'08 Gemini quincunxes that too,and so I could end up being reserved too. My Saturn is square Moon,opposes Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius for a t-square. My Saturn forms a mystic triangle with my Sun trine Moon. I am a person that is very reserved and shy, and I intend to underestimate my own physical,sexual attractiveness. My Saturn contraparallels my Mercury in Scorpio and my Venus in Scorpio.

Your Saturn trines my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini and my North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius. That also means that your Saturn is opposes my Node/MC midpoint.
I don't think that I would like your Saturn in opposition to my Chiron in 10'32 Aries. Magi Society calls that "The Heartbreak Clash". They say that Saturn person has control over the Chiron person breaks the Chiron's person's heart. I am not into Magi Society,and so I don't believe that. However,the Saturn person could be controlling,restricting,reserved which could lead the Chiron person to be hurt in some way. Your Saturn trine my Midheaven and my North Lunar Node is not bad, and that has to be figured into it. I have Chiron sextile my Midheaven and my North Lunar Node,and so your Saturn aspects that configuration. It can be highly karmic synastry configuration. Your Mars is conjunct my South Lunar Node in 10'30 Leo in 12th,and it trines my Chiron,sextiles my Midheaven. The configuration of your Saturn sextile Mars and Midheaven aspects my Chiron sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis and Lunar Nodes.
You have Mars square Juno with your Mars on my South Lunar Node and your Juno square my Lunar Nodes. You might have been a pastlife spouse that was very angry,violent with me. I have Aries on the 8th house cusp,and so Mars is the ruler of my 8th house. Mars is the dispositor of my retrograde Chiron and retrograde Eris too. My Juno in 26'26 Virgo conjuncts your Sun in 24'54 Virgo, and that could the possibility that we had a committed relationship in the past. You have Sun sextile Uranus in Scorpio, and so your Uranus sextiles my Juno which indicates a committed relationship that involved being unconventional and independent but not too unstable nor unpredictable that it would cause problems. Is it any wonder that transiting dwarf planet, Makemake in 25'28 Virgo is currently in a shared experience conjunction transit to our Sun-Juno conjunction? My Mars in 25'54 Aquarius quincunxes our Sun-Juno conjunction and squares your Uranus in 26'53 Scorpio, and so that could indicate the possibility of impatience,aggression,violence in the past.
I might have been too impulsive for you and you were probably too independent for me. My Mars is in Aquarius though,and so it's a bit tricky. Your Uranus square my Mars could just enhance my own Uranian nature of my Mars. Your Jupiter in 15'07 Libra conjuncting my Uranus in 15'17 Libra could point to a strong freedom,independent connection that could go either way.

My Venus in 21'47 Scorpio opposes your retrograde Chiron in 22'38 Taurus, and that could possibly being attracted to healing qualities that you have, but there can be the potential of you hurting me, but I also activate some old wounds of yours.

According to Douglas Bloch and Demetra George from page 123 - 124 of ASTROLOGY FOR YOURSELF:

How do you determine this quality of connectedness? In oder to be connected to someone, you must have one of your planets or angles in the same or opposte degree as one of their planets or angles. From an energy perspective, the reasoning behind this theory is that each of the 360 degrees of the Zodiac vibraes to a particular frequency. Because of the law of magnetism, you will be attracted to those individuals who have planets (denoting parts of personality) that resonate to the same frequencies as your own. Because each pair of opposite degrees signifies the two poles of the same energy line, either degree will work.

In determining if planets are connected, we use a small range of plus or minus 2 degrees. For example, if your Sun is at 5 degrees Scorpio and your partner's Venus is 3,4,5,6,7 degrees Scorpio, the Sun and Venus are connected. Similarly if your partner's Venus were located at 3-7 degrees of Taurus (opposite Scorpio) your Sun and Venus would again be connected

These contacts are the glue or bonding that holds the relationship together. The more of these contact points that you share, the more connected you are. The planets involved will also the indicate the nature of your relationship. Moon or Ceres contacts signifiy emotional,nurturing,or
parental interactions;Juno, Venus,and Mars point to sexual or mating relationships;Saturn can indicate parental or authority figures involved in relationships etc.

Once a connection has been clearly established, the ensuing relationship will be flowing or stressful,depending on the nature of the planets involved. If the connected planets have a natural affinity (e.g. Venus and the Moon),the interaction will be easier than if a more volatile planetary connection is established (e.g. the fiery Mars and the changeable Uranus).

For those who consider the reincarnation model, it is further suggested that these connections represent karmic contact points. The planets involved indicate what kinds of relationships you had in previous lives, whose karma , or unresolved issues, are now being further enacted in this current life. For example, Moon or Ceres contacts indicate a parent-child interaction. In the current life you may be involved ina husband-wife relationship, but if there exists a strong Moon-Ceres connection, it will be the nurturing,dependency,and parental themes that will become major issues.

Other connections may signify the following: Juno contacts may portray previous marriage partners or mates. Venus and Mars contacts indicate prior sexual connections. Jupiter and Mercury contacts could show prior teacher-student interactions.

In our case:

My Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conjunct your Venus in 5'47 Scorpio, and that could indicate prior sexual,mating,love,romantic connection

Your Venus in 5'46 Scorpio conjunct my Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio, and that could indicate prior sexual or mating connection. Ixion put more emphasis on sexuality,lust but also can indicate deeply karmic,transformative qualitiy to it. evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences. the Scorpio does put more emphasis on sex,transformation and also death.

with our Sun-Venus-Ixion conjunction conjunct the South Eris Node, there could have been collective karma involving diversity/divergence,ideology,controversy,equality matters

When you were born, the heliocentric Eris Nodes were in 5'33 Taurus/Scorpio, and so your Venus in 5'47 Scorpio were opposing/conjuncting them.

When I was born,the heliocentric Eris Nodes were in 5'30 Taurus/Scorpio, and so my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio,my Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio,and my true Black Moon Lilith in 5'42 Scorpio were opposing/conjuncting them.

Heliocentric Nodes move up to 1 degree per century,and so they are very slow moving. Therefore, they have to do with the collective. if there is a personal planet,angle involved, there is a strong connection to that collective energy.

My retrograde Eris is in Aries in 8th, and my Sun conjunct South Eris Node in Scorpio.
So I have a strong Eris-Mars/Pluto/8th house theme. With your Venus closely conjunct my Sun, you might have been involved in my pastlife karma involving that.

Philip Sedgwick says that transneptunian dwarf planets are evolutionary intensified objects.

"Evolutionary Intensified Objects. Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations."

so with your Venus conjunct my Ixion, it could indicate love,relationship connections involves evolutionary intensified experiences/lessons. even more so with our Sun-Venus conjunction conjunct the South Eris Node.

Your retrograde Saturn in 10'36 Libra oppose my retrograde Chiron in 10'32 Aries could indicate you being an authority,parent to me in a pastlife, and I could have been a teacher,healer to you in a pastlife.

My Venus in 21'47 Scorpio oppose your Chiron in 22'38 Capricorn, and that could indicate prior sexual/mating connection as well as teacher/healer connection. The teacher/healer connection is repeated.

Your Sun in 24'54 Virgo conjunct my Juno in 26'26 Virgo, and that could indicate prior partners or mates. With my Juno conjunct your Sun, I don't think that I refused to marry you in pastlife. I was probably very committed and faithful to you.

Your Jupiter in 15'06 Libra conjunct my Uranus in 15'17 Libra. This indicates a pastlife teacher/student relationship. It could also be a reformer,revolutionary relationship. Maybe we were both part of a revolt against tyrants of some kind.

Your Midheaven in 12'53 Sagittarius oppose my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini (Midheavens conjunct each other's Imum Coeli's) could prior career,and family connections.
Robert Blascke pointed out that conjunctions to the Imum Coeli could indicate pastlfe family connections.
Cosmobiologists,Uranian Astrologers consider the Midheaven as the "I", the soul, ego-consciousness . Therefore,our Midheaven-Midheaven opposition could be a strong soul connection.

not only that Your Midheaven contraparallels my Midheaven (Midheavens parallel each other's Imum Coeli) with 13 minutes of arc.

So our Midheaven/Imum Coeli axises occult each other!

so the Midheaven/Imum Coeli oppose Midheaven Imum Coeli is much stronger.

very strong connection

My Ascendant/Descendant axis squares your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with 33 minutes of arc, but that's because my Ascendant/Descendant axis squares my Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis. Your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis in angular aspects to both my angle axises is a very significant connection

Very interesting

Our big 3 are all compatible too

My Sun in Scorpio is compatible with your Sun in Virgo
My Moon in Pisces is compatibile with your Moon in Taurus which trines my Ascendant
My Ascendant in Virgo is compatibile with your Ascendant in Pisces (Ascendant in the same sign as the Descendant) which conjuncts my Moon.

My Sun conjunct your Venus is the closest aspect in our synastry in regards to just the regular stuff. That would indicate the most dominant theme in the chart too.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 26, 2009 02:29 AM         

Solar Fire can do Right Ascension Equatorial Longitude zodiac equivalent charts

In Right Ascension:

My Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
Your Venus in 3'09 Scorpio

We have closer Sun-Venus conjunction Right Ascension. 7 minutes of arc.

Your Ascendant in 2'57 Pisces
My Moon in 3'11 Pisces

We have closer Moon-Ascendant conjunction in Right Ascension. 14 minutes of arc. That's a definitely connection. That can signify emotional,nurturing,or parental interactions. It can indicate pastlife parent-child interaction. I like my Sun trine your Ascendant with 5 minutes of arc. Thats a nice,harmonious relationship,vitality aspect.

Your Sun is in 25'19 Virgo
Your Ceres is in 27'13 Virgo
My Juno is in 26'11 Virgo

We have Ceres-Juno conjunction. That's a connection. That can signify emotional,nurturing,or parental interactions. It can indicate pastlife parent-child interaction as well as a pastlife marriage partner or mate connection. We have a closer Sun-Juno conjunction. 1'18 orb.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 26, 2009 02:00 PM         

Maybe we had pastlife love,relationship connection on a planet in the Arcturian star system. hahahahaha

in my Right Ascension chart:
Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
Arcturus in 3'35 Scorpio

as you see, I have Sun conjunct Arcturus in Right Ascension. That also means that Sun and Arcturus culminated together on the day of my birth.

in your Right Ascension chart:
Venus in 3'09 Scorpio
Arcturus in 3'42 Scorpio

as you see, you have Venus conjunct Arcturus in Right Ascension. That also means that Venus and Arcturus culminated together on your day of birth.

you can confirm at this site: http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/

check RA box for Right Ascension

Arcturus (α Boo / α Boötis / Alpha Boötis) is the brightest star in the constellation Boötes. With a visual magnitude of −0.05, it is also the third brightest star in the night sky, after Sirius and Canopus. It is, however, fainter than the combined light of the two main components of Alpha Centauri, which are too close together for the eye to resolve as separate sources of light, making Arcturus appear to be the fourth brightest. It is the second brightest star visible from northern latitudes and the brightest star in the northern celestial hemisphere. The star is in the Local Interstellar Cloud. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcturus

Alpha (α Bootes, Arcturus, is a golden red star situated on the left knee of the Herdsman, the 4th brightest in the sky.

Arcturus has been an object of the highest interest and admiration to all observant mankind from the earliest times, and doubtless was one of the first stars to be named; for from Hesiod's day to the present it thus appears throughout all literature, although often confounded with the Greater Bear (Ursa Major). Indeed Hesiod's use of the word probably was for that constellation (Bootes), except in two cases, already quoted, where he unquestionably referred to this star, mentioning its rising fifty days after the winter solstice, the first allusion that we have to that celestial point. And it is popularly supposed that {p.99} our Arcturus is that of the Book of Job, xxxviii, 32; but there it merely is one of the early titles of Ursa Major, the Revised Version correctly rendering it "the Bear." Still, even now, the Standard Dictionary quotes for the star the Authorized Version's

"Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons ?"

The astrological influences of the star Arcturus

According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mars and Jupiter, but Alvidas substitutes Venus and Mercury conjoined. It gives riches, honors, high renown, self-determination and prosperity by navigation and voyages. [Robson*, p.139.]

"Bear leader-guardian", meaning observer of the "Great Bear", or "The Saucepan" or "Big Dipper" respectively. Main star of constellation Bootes (= driver of oxen), has a Jupiter-Mars nature, and a reputation of achieving "justice through power". It therefore makes the native belligerent and quarrelsome, especially if attached to Mars and Jupiter by conjunction. A really go-ahead and enterprising spirit is here the rule, as indicated by Jupiter-Mars. Lasting success is promised if further good aspects are present. If critically aspected, the good influence will be hampered or made into a real handicap. If involved in legal action, such a native may lose all. [Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928, p.63.]
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Arcturus.html

the following is from Bernadette Brady's STAR AND PLANET COMBINATIONS:

Bootes,the Hunter and Farmer
The Athenians saw this constellation as the leader of a people who had fallen on difficult times. In order to help them, Bootes, their leader, invented the plow, thereby becoming one of the great benefactors of his tribe, and thus of humankind. Bootes still stands in the sky holding weapons and farming tools. The alpha star of Bootes is Arcturus. This is probably one of the first stars ever named, as it appears in most ancient literature on the sky. It was used in the agricultural calendar, as its acronychal and heliacal risings once corresponded to the important dates in the farming year.

The principle of Arcturus, the hunter who now farms, a pathfinder

This star symbolizes the transition from the nomadic hunter-gatherer to the herder-cultivator-ploughman-villager. It appears to embody the wisdom and vision require for this fundamental shift in human consciousness from the hunter to the farmer, as it embraces the concepts of guarding,learning,teaching,and leading. This star represents one who can lead the way, one who has the vision or the spirit to take the first step.

Sun-Arcturus:
a pathfinder,to break new ground and be willing to explore unheard-of options. On who either embody this spirit of adventure or be drawn to those that do. Strong or new leadership emerges.

Venus-Arcturus:
A leader in the arts or in humanist politics. A willingness to explore the difficult or unusual in friendships,art,and social events. a successful artist if profiled.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 26, 2009 02:09 PM         

that is a really impressive interpretation and giving out of information.
I am absolutely fascinated, especially with that quote about the connectedness of planets (conj. and opp. within 2 degree orb), which of course is just to my taste.

So Ixion would have a Plutonic feel? But all Plutinos would have?
But I guess his lustiness also comes from the myth, right?
I wonder, wouldn`t it make sense to check Hera in aspect to Ixion.
Could that be another aspect of unrequited lust (on Ixion`s part)?

posted September 26, 2009 02:39 PM         

that is a really impressive interpretation and giving out of information."

Thank you.

"I am absolutely fascinated, especially with that quote about the connectedness of planets (conj. and opp. within 2 degree orb), which of course is just to my taste."

Yeah, I had that book since 1999. Therefore,I read about that back then. It made a lot of sense to me too.

"So Ixion would have a Plutonic feel? But all Plutinos would have?"

Yes, Ixion would have a Plutonic feel because it's a plutino with its 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune just like Pluto is.
All plutinos would have that plutonic feel. Pluto is considered the largest of the plutinos. Then Orcus. Then Ixion. Then Huya.
Astronomers give official Underworld character names to plutinos as a rule.

I am not even certain about my Sun in Scorpio. It's aspected to 3 plutinos.
conjunction to Ixion with 5 minutes of arc
contraparallel to Orcus with 1 minute of arc
contraparalllel to Pluto with 46 minutes of arc.

Interestingly,I have 2 Egyptian asteroids conjunct my Sun with my Athor (love,fertility goddess) in 6'15 Scorpio and my Selquet (Scorpion goddess) in 4'44 Scorpio. I have Aigyptios (Egyptian) in 5'38 Aquarius. So Sun-Athor-Selqet square Aigyptios.

"But I guess his lustiness also comes from the myth, right?"
Most definitely, he was ultimately punished for not the crime of killing his father-in-law but for trying to get it on with the Queen of the Gods who was actually his paternal grandmother for Aries was his father! Ixion was so damned lusty that he wanted to get it on with his grandmother. He had sex with what he thought was his grandmother,and that resulted in a son leading to Ixion's equally lusty grandchildren,the centaurs. Then he had the audacity to brag about it. He was ungrateful. After all,Zeus/Jupiter agreed to purify him, and he returned that with an attempt to covet Zeus/Jupiter's wife. He blew his second chance.

in mythology, there is nothing that suggests Hades/Pluto was lusty,sexual. He kidnapped Persephone/Proserpina to make her his queen and that was it. Heck, he even asked her father,Zeus/Jupiter for his permission too. Of course,Demeter/Ceres didn't know about it. In the myths, Hades/Pluto had no known children. He only had 1 wife. Zeus/Jupiter was the ultimate philanderer who was having sex with so many women (mortal and immortal) that it made Hera/Juno very jealous. Hera/Juno was justified in her jealousy too. In mythology,she never got involved with other men. She was very faithful. She was the archetypal wife. She was the goddess of marriage.

I believe that astrologers made Pluto out to be sexual because of its assignment as modern ruler of Scorpio. I always had problems seeing Pluto as being sexual. I could see that Venus-Pluto,Mars-Pluto aspects could be sexual though.

imho, Ixion is more sexual,lusty than Pluto. It's theme fits it big time. Venus-Ixion,Mars-Ixion aspects would seem more sexual than Venus-Pluto,Mars-Pluto aspects.

"I wonder, wouldn`t it make sense to check Hera in aspect to Ixion.
Could that be another aspect of unrequited lust (on Ixion`s part)?"

I don't see why not. It really does make sense. But there is also the grandmother/grandson relationship too. Maybe it could relate to incest too. hahahahaha

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 26, 2009 03:50 PM         

"Pluto is considered the largest of the plutinos. Then Orcus. Then Ixion. Then Huya."
Who is Huya? What did (s)he do?

"about my Sun in Scorpio. It's aspected to 3 plutinos.
conjunction to Ixion with 5 minutes of arc
contraparallel to Orcus with 1 minute of arc
contraparalllel to Pluto with 46 minutes of arc."
That sounds very "underworld-ly".

"Interestingly,I have 2 Egyptian asteroids conjunct my Sun with my Athor (love,fertility goddess) in 6'15 Scorpio and my Selquet (Scorpion goddess) in 4'44 Scorpio. I have Aigyptios (Egyptian) in 5'38 Aquarius. So Sun-Athor-Selqet square Aigyptios."
What do you think this means? A past life in Egypt?
The concept of love and death especially strong in your chart?

Interesting. My Aigyptios is on 5°51 Taurus.

"in mythology, there is nothing that suggests Hades/Pluto was lusty,sexual. He kidnapped Persephone/Proserpina to make her his queen and that was it."
Well, I don`t agree completely.
Actually Hades / Pluto kidnapped Persephone not only because he wanted a queen, but he was driven by lust, too.
Of course this was because of Eros / Amor / Cupid, who struck him with his arrow, and then when he saw Persephone, he fell in lust with her and kidnapped her, and probably also raped her (at least that is one line of interpretation).

Ovid actually writes in the metamorphose about Orpheus and Eurydike, how Orpheus is pleading for his wife before Pluto and Proserpina, reminding them that "Amor vos iunxit.", which could either mean that "love has bound you together" or "Amor (the god) has bound you together". Of course it could also be just flattering words for the rulers of the unerworld.

But yes Pluto DID as his brother that he might keep Proserpina as his wife, and Jupiter agreed, without letting Demeter know. Actually I find Jupiter to be a rather annoying, selfish and amoral figure in mythology.
It is also said that Persephone had to stay with Pluto, cause she had eaten 6 seeds of a certain fruit, and people who ate in the underworld, had to stay there.
This is interpreted in the light that she had "accepted Pluto`s seed", literally.

Oh well, I think I got carried away, but I really am fascinated with this myth.

of course one problem with all these myths, especially this one is, that there might be variation in different deliveries.

2It's theme fits it big time. Venus-Ixion,Mars-Ixion aspects would seem more sexual than Venus-Pluto,Mars-Pluto aspects."
I agree that would be interesting to look at.
As my Ixion is on 9 Scorpio, I will keep this in mind and take note, if I shall meet men with Venus or Mars around 9 Scorpio, Taurus, Aquarius or Leo.

"But there is also the grandmother/grandson relationship too. Maybe it could relate to incest too. hahahahaha"
Maybe this kind of lust that knows no limits, no moral, just the urge to satisfy this lust?
That of course could lead to such sinister things as incest, of course.

posted September 28, 2009 01:09 PM         

Well, see, I am glad that you added the transneptunians to our analysis because that puts a whole new spin on things. I wasn't aware that you could really treat each plutino as having the same kind of energy as Pluto...wow, that is really intense! As if we weren't Plutonian enough already!

The mythology behind Ixion is really interesting. That Venus-Ixion conjunction is very powerful and can't be underestimated. Do you feel that it should be given the same, if not more weight, than a Venus-Pluto conjunction?

As far as the Lilith aspect, I have heard that when a man's Lilith contacts a woman's personal planets then there is some aspect of her that he views as his anima--the ideal or ultimate female. What do you think? It's especially interesting that it is hitting my Venus!

DD--I checked the Hera/Ixion aspects and didn't see anything, but that might not be a bad thing!

So, Raymond, as far as the connectedness of planets, can these conjunctions substitute for the "glue" of Saturn? That was really where I was getting my theory of being a "loving and romantic connection that was not meant to materialize"...because of the lack of Saturn aspects. However, if you feel the connectedness of these planets symbolizes both karma and "glue", then that is very interesting indeed!

As far as how we interacted in the past lifeline...do you feel more connected to the teacher/student, parent/child, or spouse/lover theory? I tend to go with my instincts on these things...spouse/lover feels more familiar, especially with the intensity involved.

quote:

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You might have been a pastlife spouse that was very angry,violent with me.

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This rings true! I skirted around as much with my earlier analysis, implying a kind of dark obsession. Maybe you were a wonderful husband but for some reason I always doubted you? Perhaps there was some external interference in the relationship of some kind--someone causing me to have doubts about you or to question your love? Or, when you say that Ixion can be connected to ideology/controversy/revolution...perhaps a situation like a war? Civil war? Interracial relationship? (that is what popped into my head while I was contemplating this--I am Black in this life and you are biracial, yes?)

Hmmmmm....

The Arcturus connection is very interesting too. I had a Brady fixed star report done not too long ago and saw that this star featured heavily in my life but I didn't realize the significance of it conjuncting such a personal planet and/or being a shared conjunction with someone else. What is even more ironic is that I've been researching star systems for the book I'm writing and Arcturus is one of them!

Now THAT is synchronicity...

posted September 28, 2009 10:25 PM         

Who is Huya? What did (s)he do?

38628 Huya is a trans-Neptunian object (TNO). It was discovered in March 2000 by Ignacio Ferrin and announced on 24 October 2000. It is classified as a plutino[1] with a 2:3 mean motion resonance with Neptune. It was assigned the name Huya, after Juyá, the Wayuu rain god, in August 2003 by the International Astronomical Union (IAU).

At the time of its discovery, Huya was the biggest and brightest Trans-Neptunian object found since Pluto. It was found using data collected by at the CIDA Observatory in Venezuela. The Spitzer Space Telescope has estimated Huya to be about 530 km in diameter with a low albedo of around 0.05.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/38628_Huya

CARACAS, Sep 4 (IPS) - A "mini-planet" far out in our solar system, discovered by astronomers at a Venezuelan observatory, will bear the name Huya (Juyá), the rain god of the Wayúu Indians who live on the arid Guajira Peninsula of northern Venezuela and Colombia.

The Wayúu hope that their god, from his new vantage point in the company of Neptune and Pluto, will work some miracle to alleviate the thirst their lands have suffered for several generations.

Juyá measures some 600 km in diameter and is composed of rock and ice. It is located in the outer reaches of the band of celestial bodies beyond Neptune, known as the Kuiper Belt, after the man who discovered it in 1951, Dutch-U.S. astronomer Gerard Kuiper.

Larger than the asteroids in its group, it is a tiny planet, barely a quarter the size of Pluto, the smallest of the nine in the solar system.

It was discovered "the night of March 14-15 in 2000 by researcher Ignacio Ferrín, using the Schmidt telescope with a 100-cm lens, at the University of the Andes Astronomy Research Centre," the research team's spokesman, Johnny Cova, told Tierramérica.

"It was named Object 2000-EB173, until recently, when the International Astronomical Union (IAU) accepted its new name," publishing it in an official list Jul. 7, said Cova.

It takes Juyá 243 years to complete its orbit around the Sun, a path that is an elongated ellipse. The possibility of life on the little planet has been ruled out, as its surface temperature is 180 degrees below zero Celsius, according to Ferrín.

The planet was formed by a shower of rocks, as occurred in the formation of Earth, says the scientist. He pursued a name that would represent the place from where the planet was discovered - Venezuela - and its native peoples, while also evoking the idea of rain.

"There was consensus that it should be an indigenous name. But that wasn't enough, because it needed literary or mythological references and to have traits in common with the mini-planet," Ferrín said.

It could have been named María Lionza, mythical native princess that protects the flora and fauna of central-western Venezuela. But that option was ruled out because the name represents a cult object for hundreds of thousands of people.

Ferrín finally turned to the Wayúu because they are the largest indigenous group in the country.

The name Juyá was chosen from among more than 20 names considered by astronomers, anthropologists and Wayúu leaders, headed by Jorge Pocaterra. Juyá - god of rain, a warrior, hunter, seducer and inhabitant of "the place beyond the Sun".

To facilitate its pronunciation in English, the spelling has been altered to "Huya".

"It is a new recognition for our people and a reminder to the world about our existence and our demands," Wayúu leader Noelí Pocaterra, vice-president of the Venezuelan parliament, said in a conversation with Tierramérica.

The Wayúu, also known as "Guajiros" after the land where they live, are the most numerous of the 31 indigenous nations of Venezuela: some 200,000 out of a total 511,000 Indians in this country of 24 million people.

Another 150,000 Wayúu live on the Colombian side of the border. Their language is of the Arawak family.

The Wayúu are goat herders, weavers, fisherfolk, salt miners and merchants - and there are even known to be smugglers among them.

Pocaterra recognises that since 1999, when President Hugo Chávez first took office, indigenous rights have been reinforced, such as the constitutional provision that Venezuela's Indians have the right to enjoy the riches of their lands.

But in the sun-beaten Guajira Peninsula, there is a dire need for development. "One of our demands is the demarcation of our territory. There was a time when the entire Guajira belonged to us. Now we have been granted just a few dry parcels, so water shortages are a pressing problem," said the Wayúu leader.

"The lack of water is the biggest problem. Whether through rain, the construction of lagoons or the activation of desalinisation plants, we hope that Juyá, god of the rains now recognised the world over, will perform the miracle of water," she said.

(* Humberto Márquez is an IPS correspondent. Originally published Aug. 30 by Latin American newspapers that are part of the Tierramérica network. Tierramérica is a specialised news service produced by IPS with the backing of the United Nations Development Programme and the United Nations Environment Programme.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/38628_Huya

Then there is Huya (provisional name 2000 EB173, catalogue number 38628, orbital period of 251 years). Huya is a Plutino discovered in 2000 by Venezuelan astronomers. They proposed the name Huya (Juya with a little accent on the 'a') after the rain god of the Wayuu Indians who live on the arid Guajira Peninsula of northern Venezuela and Colombia. Juya was god of rain; a warrior, hunter, seducer and inhabitant of "the place beyond the Sun." The lack of water is the biggest problem on the Guajira Peninsula and the locals hoped that Juya, god of the rains now recognized the world over, would perform the miracle of water.

There is a second mythological Huya, an Egyptian underworld entity. Based on this mythology, some associate Huya with rites, rituals and offerings to the dead, an association I've witnessed personally in client work. "The Egyptians saw Huya as an underworld deity and great care was taken to offer her food and water in the tombs so she would not be forgotten," Philip Sedgwick wrote in the Galactic Times at the time of the naming. According to the "Tour Egypt" web site, Huya, or Yuya, was the steward of Queen Tiyi, the queen mother and wife of Amenhotep III. However, the intentional naming properties all appear to be associated with the Venezuelan version of the myth.

It is interesting that Huya has two entirely different mythologies, a hint that in delineation, she may represent a point in the chart were there are two different expressions, both of which are true. http://planetwaves.net/astrology/waterworlds.html

According to Philip Sedgwick:
Huya: Egyptian underworld deity, Yaqui and other indigenous lore. Orbital Period: 248.84 yr.

Positive - focused, dedicated, attentive

Negative - fretful, worrying and obsessive

Mundane - attention to detail, religious or spiritual ritual - especially of a repetitive nature.

Ceremonial - capitulation and clearing ceremonies, offerings to spirits, especially those perceived to oversee the underworld

My Huya in 24'25 Leo
oppose my Mars in 25'54 Aquarius
square Venus in 21'47 Scorpio
parallel Ascendant - '28

Thanks for good points about the myth of Hades/Pluto.

I enjoy talking with you about Astrology too.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 28, 2009 11:31 PM         

I would give it about the same weight as a Venus-Pluto conjunction. Ixion is a dwarf planet candidate,and will join Pluto as dwarf planet.
The Ixion myth suggests that Ixion is more sexual,lusty than Pluto"

"As far as the Lilith aspect, I have heard that when a man's Lilith contacts a woman's personal planets then there is some aspect of her that he views as his anima--the ideal or ultimate female. What do you think? It's especially interesting that it is hitting my Venus!"

I agree with that. It makes sense. My Venus is in Scorpio too,and so true Black Moon in Lilith in Scorpio just adds more to the theme that I like women with Scorpion traits.

As you see, tight conjunctions to my Sun are more intense than average because of my Sun closely conjunct Ixion and True Black Moon Lilith.

"So, Raymond, as far as the connectedness of planets, can these conjunctions substitute for the "glue" of Saturn? That was really where I was getting my theory of being a "loving and romantic connection that was not meant to materialize"...because of the lack of Saturn aspects. However, if you feel the connectedness of these planets symbolizes both karma and "glue", then that is very interesting indeed!"

Yeah,

but there is no lack of Saturn aspects.
Your Saturn in close trine to my North Lunar Node and Midheaven are significant though.

according to Reinhold Ebertin's COSMIC MARRIAGE,

Your Saturn in 10'36 Libra
trine my North Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius
- Desire to maintain relationship

Your Saturn in 10'36 Libra
trine my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
Saturn trine Midheaven - Desire to overcome difficulties together

Your Saturn in 10'36 Libra
oppose My Midheaven/Node midpoint in 10'51 Aries
because of your Saturn in a narrow orbed to trine with my narrow orbed North Node trine Midheaven

according to Ruth Brummond's Rulebook:
Saturn oppose Midheaven/Node midpoint -
+ focused. serious. disciplined. discreet. self-restrained. reserved. socially withdrawn. slow but steady. retrospective; interested in historical factors. pragmatic.
To consolidate my connections. To distinguish oneself from others. Problems shared. Departure from or with associates.
- inhibited. restricted. difficult to contact. shunned. suppressed. boring. sluggish. stymied. stuck in the past. hard. cold.
Postponement of personal contact. Restraint or inhibition in relationships. Difficulties in making contact. Separation of associates. To make contacts under problematic circumstances.

The Midheaven/Node midpoint is an important relationship midpoint in Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology:
MC.NO.*
+ Personal association. Inner connection. My relationship. Contacts. To be personally bonded. Personal encounter. Alliance. Communion.

"As far as how we interacted in the past lifeline...do you feel more connected to the teacher/student, parent/child, or spouse/lover theory? I tend to go with my instincts on these things...spouse/lover feels more familiar, especially with the intensity involved."

It could be both. There is a possible of knowing each other in more than one lifetime. I am believer that many people have numerous pastlives. Actually,I've been told that I am very old soul by more than one psychic,metaphysical reader. My shaman healer friend also told me that I am one of the very old souls that has an original soul contract like he is one too. I don't know about any of that,but I keep an open mind. I focus only on this life. I don't really talk about this stuff to others. I can't help thinking that I have strong connections to Greece and Rome because of my strong interest in Greek,Roman mythology and how I learned it early and quickly. I also have a strong fascination for England too. Ever since I was a kid, I had a "Knights of The Round Table" mentality. I loved reading about King Arthur,knights,sword fighting,jousting,defending one's honor,duels,saving damsels in distress,(I have a strong Arthurian Legend asteroid influence too!). As a kid, I was fascinated about reading about the crusades,and so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if I had at least one pastlife that I fought as a knight in the crusades,and I actually been told that. I have been told that I had pastlives as a druid, a Native American medicine man assistant,aborigine healer,Spanish Inquisition torturer,and hawaiian healer. I probably had a strong female pastlife history with that Sun conjunct retrograde true Black Moon Lilith. I've been told that I had some female pastlives. I believe that all of us had pastlives as the opposite gender. I also couldn't help wondering if I have pastlives in Mesopotamia that include Babylonia and Sumer.
I was very interested in Norse mythology too,and so I had strong fascination with the Vikings too. Maybe I had pastlives involving those things too.

"Or, when you say that Ixion can be connected to ideology/controversy/revolution...perhaps a situation like a war? Civil war? Interracial relationship?"

Actually I said that about the Eris Nodes.
Yeah, it could be all those things. It could also fit with religious differences too. Those seem like ideological beliefs that tend to separate people. "My religion is righteous and yours is heathen,and so my people are better than your people"

(that is what popped into my head while I was contemplating this--I am Black in this life and you are biracial, yes?)

yeah.....well I'd consider myself multiracial. My mom is actually Portuguese,English,German,French,Italian,and Puerto Rican. My dad was Black,French,Native American (actually a Black Creole man born in New Orleans,Louisiana)

because of my very mixed bloodlines, I could have numerous pastlives that could be strongly connected to my ancestors.

check out the composition of the Portuguese:

The ancestry of modern Portuguese has been influenced by the many people which have passed on its territory throughout history. These people include the Pre-Indo-European people of Iberia, Proto-Celts and Celts (such as the Lusitanians, Calaicians, Celtici, Cynetes and other Pre-Roman People of the Iberian Peninsula, such as other minor local tribes as the Bracari, Coelerni, Equaesi, Grovii, Interamici, Leuni, Luanqui, Limici, Narbasi, Nemetati, Paesuri, Quaquerni, Seurbi, Tamagani, Tapoli, Turduli, Turduli Veteres, Turdulorum Oppida, Turodi and Zoelae), Phoenicians (Punics), Carthaginians, Romans, Vandals, Suebi, Visigoths, Alans, Buri, Vikings, Byzantines, Saqaliba (Slavs), Berbers and Arabs (Moors), and Jews (Sephardim or Marranos). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

the composition of the Spanish:

Nonetheless, the ancestry of modern Spaniards has also been influenced in a smaller degree by the many peoples which have passed on its territory throughout history. These peoples include Iberians, Celts, Celtiberians, Phoenicians (Punics or Carthaginians), Greeks (Ancient and Byzantine), Romans, Germanic tribes (Vandals, Suebi, and Visigoths), Saqalibas (Slavs), Alans, Jews (Sephardim) or Marranos, Berbers and Arabs (Moors) and in Andalucia the Roma people (Gitanos). There was also a repopulation of Northern Andalusia with Germans in the 18th century[8] due to a royal decree of Charles III. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_people

"The Arcturus connection is very interesting too. I had a Brady fixed star report done not too long ago and saw that this star featured heavily in my life but I didn't realize the significance of it conjuncting such a personal planet and/or being a shared conjunction with someone else. What is even more ironic is that I've been researching star systems for the book I'm writing and Arcturus is one of them!"

Bernadette Brady's stuff is cool. I have her Starlight program that does the fixed star paran calculations/reports.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 29, 2009 04:33 AM         

thanks for the stuff on Huya, so another Egyptian goddess.
Even though not Egyptian alone.

BTW your Huya is trine my Sun, even though not within 1 degree orb. But your Mars is very exactly sextile my Sun. My Sun is on 25°56 Sagittarius.

I am fascinated with the tight orbs you have with StarrofVenusGirl, especially if you consider the nature of the connected planets, asteroids and Dwarfplanets.

Actually I start thinking that even a very exact sextile or quinkunx could become more meaningful than a wide orbed conjunction. Of course the nature of the aspect would colour the connection.

Like in the case of your Mars sextile my Sun with 2 minutes of orb and sextile my Mercury with 51 minutes of orb; it could indicate this nonthreatening and nonargumentative, yet inspiring communication about astrology we have here, what do you think?

In my chart Huya is retograde on 29°18 Leo in 9th house (no matter which housessystem )

Interestingly it doesn`t make any close aspects to the major planets unless we count the sextile to Uranus on 1°21 Scorpio.

But it
opposes Nefertiti on 27°58 Aquarius
quinkunx Anubis on 28°14 Capricorn

Regarding the past lives, well, it seems, that we have had some past lives in the same "areas", as I have also a very strong resonance with Greek and Roman mythology. Actually when I started learning Latin it was almost like I was "remembering" instead of really learning. Not the grammar though, but the words, the vocabulary and the knowledge about the myths. So familiar. Even more so than the Norse, even though I read that, too.
And England, the Arthurian times, Avalon, the Druids definitely resonates, too. Actually I dreamed of Canterbury as well as the Chalice Hill of Glastonbury long before I knew that it was that that I had dreamed of and that Glastonbury is said to be the entrance to Avalon.

Another past life I am pretty sure about is tied to Babylon.

And then there is one during the 2nd world war here in Germany. But I do not like to remember that one.

Anyway I always found it odd, that the Egyptians asteroids in my chart are so strongly intervowen with tight aspects, yet despite my affinity to Egyptian culture, I do not remember anything about it.
WEll that is not entirely true, I was having two very short glimpses or flashbacks, but way too short to make a real picture out of it.

posted September 29, 2009 12:50 PM         

I have always been fascinated by Greek & Roman mythology and history. This is a time period to which I feel very connected, more so to the Empire and not the Republic. I read Shakespeare's Caesar in the 6th grade and used to always envision myself living in those times.

I'm also an Anglophile. Britain and British history can consume me at times. The times I feel most connected to are the Britain of Roman times, and the 16th century. Again, I was studying the Tudor dynasty in elementary school.

And of course, my recent feelings that I really did have a past life in ancient Babylonia...that's the only one I've done the asteriod research on so far, but I do feel strongly connected to that time period as well.

Ancient Egypt is another one and I know for sure I'll have to do asteriod study on that...I share DD's feelings of sometimes "remembering" things in Ancient Eypt and not necessarily learning them, such as with hieroglyphics.

Perhaps Glaucus was right when he said that perhaps everyone on this board is a soulmate of some sort. I think even iQ has confirmed that theory...

More thoughts later.