posted September 30, 2009 03:35 AM         

The Chiron/Moon/Uranus stuff really feels like it defines a lot of how I receive love, and I just wonder how much there is to HOW we receive it via the 11th house.

posted September 30, 2009 04:21 AM         

Aquarius 11th house, ruler Uranus on 0 Cap, conjunct Mercury, Saturn and Neptune

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I receive love in a highly erratic way, I feel, or not at all.

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I blamed the transits of Neptune and Chiron for that.

posted September 30, 2009 04:22 AM         

Bill Herbst in Houses of the Horoscope writes of Uranus in 11th "expected the unexpected in love", and "some of your highest experiences are brief", for the receiving love element of this house.

It's the house of friends, and this figures in my experiences.

On my chart Uranus is part of a Grand Trine with Sun and Mars. The cuspal ruler is Venus, who is on the Descendant in the 7th house in Taurus.

posted September 30, 2009 04:29 AM         

I can relate. I have Aqua 11th house too. Though, my Moon is in there. I can easily give love, but have trouble receiving it. It's not like I don't want it - but I'm very guarded. In truth, I think there's something wrong with someone who would want to love me. I guess, if I cut through all the crap, at the core, it's a self-belief of being (or feeling) unlovable.

posted September 30, 2009 04:46 AM         

And wow - interesting to see others with 11th house Aqua/Uranus influence
Blue Moon - that description from Herbst kind of gave me the chills... feels like it makes sense for me too.

Wheels - we have some similarities in our charts! I've got Saturn in Cancer too (3rd house tho) conjunct my SN .... yeowch. It seems like a theme for me, as I was also thinking of my Saturn placements when I wrote the original post.

posted September 30, 2009 06:19 AM         

If I use whole sign houses I have Libra in 11th house with Pluto in there.

So I guess no matter where I turn I cannot escape Pluto.

I`m not even sure I understand what it means to "receive" love. Is it how others show affection to you? Is it the kind of feelings you become aware of?

Well, with Pluto there, I think it is either all or nothing, and most of the times they are so secretive I don`t even know.

Would that mean that I am drawn to Plutonic or Uranian people (or Venusian in the Whole sign house system)? Or are these people drawn to me?

posted September 30, 2009 07:21 AM         

I really don't see how having Jupiter in the 11th house is manifested in my life as "love received".

posted September 30, 2009 08:06 AM         

the 8th is all about your partner's worth, values, money etc and your rel with all that.

do you feel loved when you recive gifts? when an important/powerful/rich person appreciates you? when they give you financial or emotional support to accomplish your goals?

in order to understand houses, you need to take under account both houses on an axis. the 11th balances the 5th. (and the 8th balances the 2nd - what you earn, from money to selfesteem, selfworth, etc).

the 11th is also the 2nd from your 10th - it is what your career and public standing earns you. the more authority you assume and exercit with succes, the more acclaim you get from a larger audience. a plain worker relates to their colleagues (the 6th) and recives feedback (ie 'love') from their boss (the 10th hs). their proffesional status (the 10th) will earn them more or less in terms of roles in the group, powerful friends, outreach in life (goals, dreams, etc). a CEO has diff friends and goals in life than a gardner. not better, ust different. also success in what you do (the 10th) has a direct effect on what you can dream of and reaching those dreams.

the 11th is also 5th from the 7th - as in 'love given'=5th by "the public"=7th.
so when you 'create' something - the 5th (an art work, a child, etc) you receive a response to it: applause, critics, acclaim, or 'love' etc. - the 11th. your public will appalaud; your child will love you; etc.

posted September 30, 2009 10:46 AM         

11th House Ruler = Sun (Leo Cusp)
11th House tenants = Sun, Venus (in Virgo)

In love, or affection, I tend to have a sense of entitlement to being treated like I am indispensable. [Sometimes I really wonder about my ego at times, because when it seems to be average, this sense of entitlement comes up from nowhere.] If I don't get treated in a way that makes me feel valued, I feel that I am unwanted and I just usually leave without making a fuss. I also expect friendship in all my relationships, from business to romance- I can't be dealing an wheeling in any capacity if there isn't a rapport of friendship and respect.

I used to be very guarded, but now I am not so much. I used to be afraid of rejection more than I am now. Now, I act as if the other person's love doesn't matter, that I will love them anyway, regardless of how they feel- and I don't feel bad or lame because love is not returned. For me though, looking at what everyone said, the challenge is not in accepting love, but it is in finding enough inspiration to also love another.

posted September 30, 2009 01:15 PM         

I have Scorpio on my 11th house cusp...in the Placidus system, my Saggie Neptune (trine Venus 7th, square Mars 8th) falls into my 11th too...in the Equal House system, Neptune falls into my 12th, which the more I think about it is probably more accurate.

The ways I receive love. This feels complicated. I almost feel like I should post my chart.

-When I am really in love with someone/love someone and they thrill and gratify me to the very core or my poor little Leo heart by doing something very romantic in a deep, intense, un-cliched way--something that is very special to me--I freeze up and put an ice wall around my heart and get cold with them in a way I can't help, like having a panic attack or like seasickness. I can't react the way I want to, except occasionally years later. [Cap Rising opposite 7th house Moon-Saturn-DC conjunction in Cancer, squared Pluto. 7th house Cancer Venus squared Chiron.]

-Most people like and love me. I easily make friends and fit in in new situations.

-BUT, despite that, I sometimes have a masochistic tendency to search far and wide for negative feedback...I will do things like, after a performance, ignore the fact that 70 people said I was brilliant or beautiful and obsess about the boy I have a crush on not showing up. I am of course trying to outgrow that.

-Doing lots of humanitarian work for people who can actually use my help goes a long way in helping me learn to receive love. Because it isn't all about my ego--"do they love me? am I good enough?", all my need for external validation. I just offer my REAL self up and the love we exchange is more at the soul level.

-I am lucky and people often want to give me things, buy me things, take me on trips, treat me to things (Pisces Jupiter in 2nd, although 3rd in Equal House system)

-BUT I feel an agonized lack of ability to get the love/help I want most from particular people...in my career or romantic life. I am sooooo good at receiving love if I'm not invested. But I freeze up receiving love when it really gets closest to what I dream of, what I want and need most.

posted September 30, 2009 04:09 PM         

AG, as I was saying, there's obviously more factors to it than the 11th house alone, but I feel it does figure into the equation a bit. Nor do I think the moon alone is going to give the whole story.

posted September 30, 2009 09:46 PM         

Get out of my head! The past few days, I've been thinking about the 11th house and love received. I started on that track after the 5th house thread I posted.

posted September 30, 2009 10:25 PM         

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 01, 2009 01:11 AM         

I do understand about the axis, I have a very strong 2nd house and the 2-8 house axis is dominant in my chart. To simplify, the 2nd house is what you have for yourself (what you can give), the 8th house is what you share with others (what they give you, not just materially, but on every other level). To receive is always a two-way street.

I don't agree that the 11th house is about "love received". My 11th house with Jupiter in Gemini is more about interests, acquaintances, activities. It manifests itself in my life in quite an impersonal way.
Maybe the word "love" is not a good one to use here? Could be more about "attention", "favors" etc.

posted October 01, 2009 02:24 AM         

I when I was younger had lots of friends on the crappy side of Neptune - friends with drug problems, friends who were unreliable, users, cheaters, dreamers. Now I still have tons of acquaintances and make friends easily but I really keep people at a distance and I am better off doing that (thanks to the Pluto transit lots of baddies left my life).

posted October 01, 2009 02:41 AM         

"Plan for the future for if you won't, who will? How often have you heard that statement? This house always brings up the question of Fate versus Free will, are we fated or do we have free will? We are all 'fated' in one-way or another yet, well possess free will (which very few people exercise). Look at it this way a person who is over 6 foot would not make a good jockey - likewise, someone who was just over 5 feet in height would not make a good basketball player. Sure, both could try to be either but it would feel like being 'fated' to fail if competition from those more suited kept on defeating you. Catch my drift? When the Sun enters this house each year question of our long-term future come into focus for this is the house of long term planning and the house of your wishes and dreams. Keeping in mind, in order for wishes to be granted they have to be specific. This house also gives us a sense of purpose for Aries will ask: " who am I" Taurus will ask: "what is my worth" Gemini will wonder: "how can I learn" Cancer will ponder: "where do I belong" Leo will ask: " what is my importance" Virgo will ask: "how can I adapt" Libra will ponder: "how can I relate better" Scorpio will ask the question:" what can I change" Sagittarius will wonder: "how far can I go" Capricorn must ask the question: "what is my social role" Aquarius will wonder: "what more can I do" and Pisces will ask the question: "is it really possible."
The sign on the cusp of the 11th will give you clues as to what you can expect in the future. Planets contained in the 11th will tell you the kind of people you need in your life (like-minded) in order to feel a sense of 'belonging'. The 11th house offers information regarding stepchildren, foster children and adopted children (being the 5th from your 7th). It also offers information regarding New Age interests such as Astrology, Numerology, Tarot, etc. Any planets or aspects to the 11th can indicate organ donations, transplants, etc. Look at the element on the cusp of the 11th for the Fire signs are usually filled with enthusiasm, independence, anticipation and excitement. The Earth signs seek stability, composure, safety and financial security for the long term. The Air signs need a future filled with communications, stimulation, conversation, friendships and curiosity. The Water signs hope and pray that the future will bring love and the good things in life, emotional harmony and stability...
The 11th house asks that you focus your thinking on the possibilities of the future; it asks that every so often you update your plans, for resting on your laurels leads to stagnation and frustration. Wishes in order to be granted need to be defined so look this house for any planets or aspects in order to bring about your wishes and dreams. Look to the ruler of this house and see where it's located on your chart and you'll discover more information on how to understand and use this house. Remember, it belongs to the self-improvement area on the chart. The 11th house shows your capacity for friendships, your attitude towards your friends and acquaintances and all non-emotional relationships! Funnily enough it also tells you about the love you receive from others. Another way of looking at this house is to consider it the 2nd from the 10th (your career, business or profession) for it'll gives clues as to any money received. Your humanitarian, social awareness and any interests in the world at large will be shown here for in the 11th house we find and your interests in organisations such as the Red Cross and other world-wide groups of people. We all need to feel we 'belong' and the 11th house will tell you, particularly planets in the 11th for in some cases no matter how we try we are often thwarted in 'belonging.' Just remember this one basic fact of life: "you are a PART of the universe not APART from it." No matter what you think you 'belong' to the human race. Fate versus fee will is a concept we must all understand for our hopes and dreams, our wishes for the future are constantly being modified, adjusted and revised by circumstances seemingly beyond our control (what happens in another part of the world affects us more than we know)..."

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