posted October 15, 2009 10:53 AM         

to me it seems like John beat the other one up in self defense.
No I am not justifying violence, no way. But the other one had an iron rod with him. If John hadn`t defended himself, what do yout think would have happened?
I guess you doNīt really want to think about it.

So I really think he didn`t have a choice but to defend himself, as it seems the other guy was so pumped with adrenaline hew ouldn`t have listened to calming words anyway.

BUT of course my thoughts on this situation also depends on just how much did John beat him up? Did he stop when he had the upper hand and the other man couldNīt hurt him anymore?
Did he even realize that point, when his action of self defense maybe became aggression?

posted October 15, 2009 10:58 AM         

That is what it is tormenting me!

as you know im not always with Jonnhy,and when i asked how much he beated the guy he managed to chage the subject.he just said that he wasnt looking as good as himself.and that the police grabbed the man away saying that it was recurrent for the guy to arrange trouble.

I know that it was self-defence but...how much really did he beat up the guy?did it passed onto agression?cause honestly..these times He has been having very stressful events at job and that might make him want to release the stress...in these violent ways..

posted October 15, 2009 11:23 AM         

Also it's not my mother-language so with this dictionary near me - I'm aware of this handicap myself - it became totally clear what you meant by 'iron rod' I

posted October 15, 2009 12:17 PM         

well i talked with him again.he said he broke one ribb of the man and a couple of teeth.

so it was not as bad as i thought off...fortunately.but now he is a bit angry with me cause he said i didnt asked how he was,instead i was with pitty of the other guy....

seems that they guy was ready to beat John in the head and that was why he had to kick his ass fast.

posted October 15, 2009 07:03 PM         

yeah i know im feeling stupid and wondering why i reacted that way...when he was telling me at firts,he didnt said that the man was trying to hit him,he just said that he took the iron rod from out of his backseat and then my bf grabbed him.

oon that moment i even didnt thought that the man wanted to beat my bf up,i thought that he went just to pick up the thing to scare John away..but how stupid i was...

when i asked John how much the guy was beaten up,he didnt specified and it was when i felt that it might have turned to agressions and not self-defense,you know??

but now that I made him speak up the details,only now i know that the man really tried to hit my bf in the head,and if it wasnt his fast skills,and grabb him by his neck,i now know that probably John would be or in come or worse....

and now he doesnt really talk to me and he is right to do so...i guess that my head just concentrated on details.not to make me think on what might have happened...an uncouscious thing...?

he must be feeling very hurt and asking himself why....

posted October 15, 2009 07:56 PM         

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"The only way out is through" ---Robert Frost

posted October 16, 2009 06:34 AM         

well he sent me an email ( weīre long distance and only see each other at weekends..)

he is very down,and hurt.he said he hopes that in the next decisions i have to make,in order for us to be toegther,that he hopes that i dont panic or drift away...away from him.

thatīs it.he said he didnt called me when it happened cause he felt very alone,and realized that,not to feel so alone,he was also THE ONE that HAD to make the call...that he is ALL alone really.

im feeling something strange,like an intuition sayin that somehting has changed.for worse.

posted October 17, 2009 10:10 PM         

I have "Planets in Transit", by Robert Hand:

Mars conjunct Ascendant

The symbolism of this transit is self-assertion with regard to others. It is not enough that you are yourself and able to do your thing. With this transit, you have to show other people that you are someone to be reckoned with. Or you may have to defend yourself against an attack from someone, whether or not you have provoked it. This transit is most likely to produce conflicts, anger and resentment. The best thing to do, if a conflict situation arises, is to have it out immediately. If you try to keep things cool for the sake of propriety, you may only create a fund of resentment in yourself, or the other person that will boil over at an even less convenient time. But if you deal with it now, the air will clear.

On the other hand, you also have the chance to show the world what you can do. You may have the opportunity to direct others in some kind of joint project. And as long as you pay attention to the feelings of the people you work with and try to win them over to your group aims, you will be very successful at such endeavors. But if you merely try to dominate the other people in such a situation, which is a danger with this transit, you will foul it up completely and create anger and disputes.

If you do not find a satisfactory outlet for your energies at this time, you will be easily angered, resentful, irritable and quick to take offense. If you must blow up at somebody, make sure that you understand the real source of conflict, so that it can be aired. All too often, conflicts occur over phony issues that are only symbols of a much more profound problem.

Rarely, this transit will signify an illness or accident, especially if you do not have an adequate outlet for your energies. You should indulge in vigorous physical activity and avoid physically debilitating situations. Avoid overstraining yourself, either now or especially before this transit. If you are in good physical condition as you come into this transit, your health will be all right during it.

posted October 18, 2009 07:31 AM         

HOW are you doing?and your man?

wow - that is extremely accurate...i wish i found also a transit i was having,to make me react the way i did!...JOhn is now better.but i know he will not forget this reaction of mine..afterall...he is cancer asc.and they never forget what hurted them isnst it?

i thank GOD that he is safe now and nothing bad happened to him,i dont know what i would do if something had happened...dont want to think about it either!

but your description is 100%right - im gonna send this to him!maybe it helps for him to understand a bit better the situation.