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Topic: Davidson w. transits & progressed
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DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2009 05:30 PM
hmmmm i never looked at it!is it accurate?what are your experiences on it? this is ours: with transits Progressed
what are your general takes on it? later im gonna comment and see if your description fits! share your thoughts with me !comme on! hihihi IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2009 05:40 PM
what about this?is it possible to analyse a relationship chart with the solar return of it? if this is odd or stupid - please DO TELL ME! im curious to know if these also corroborates what was analysed few time ago in my solar return IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2009 05:55 PM
- SR AC cj D.IC.focus on the core of relationship.- SR Pluto (2nd h)falling into the 5Th:somekind of transformation on 5th issues. -SR NN cj D.Ceres ath conected to nurturing/mothering.SR Jup cj D.Amor. - SR Kiron/Nept approaching DSC.(possible hurt/illusion or spiritual conection in the committed relationship) - SR Boda cj D.DSC - SR IC cj Mars falls into 7H:so again a focus on the committed area.mars there might speed things?:P - SR Sun/Uranus(4th) cj D.Sun:the heart of the relationship might suffer changes,related to family/home issues? - sr venus(6th) CJ D.Mars:high attraction and erotic energies at play? -SR DSC is cj D.MC and KARMA - SR AMOR(7h) cj D.Valentine! - SR Bried cj D.NN -SR CERES cj D.ASC - more ceres things...hmmm! IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1285 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2009 06:15 PM
This seems like really grasping at straws to me...I think a much more accurate way to look at the current state of the relationship would be to look at transits to the synastry--that is, where transiting planets hit each natal chart, and how that intersects.For example, let's say in synastry, A's natal Venus is conjunct B's natal Mars (2)...and now transiting Pluto is conjunct A's Venus (0) and B's Mars (2)...the couple will REALLY feel that. It will effect A in his/her Venus house and B in his/her Mars house. You could also look at exact aspects from planets to asteroids or between asteroids this way (exact conjunctions/oppositions only), but they will be less evident than tight transits involving the major planets. Looking at solar returns to a Davison chart and stuff like that, with a heavy focus on asteroids, seems to me to be just a grasp for validation that something exciting and meaningful will be happening that both partners in the couple with feel...the more different types of charts you compare and the more asteroids you use, the likelier you are to find SOMETHING that looks promising, some conjunction or something hitting the 5th house.... But I think it's much more accurate and true to look at the basics. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2009 06:33 PM
thank you Luciaim just really playing around it is an interesting way of trying to see different perspectives on astrology. asteroids for me are really important.only the ones i deeply studied with the help of IQ and DD and others. i already know that is probable that in the next year or the one after it,we will committ to eah other and form a family so i was just seeing if the Davidson can be studied like the regular composite. as in ASTRO says that it is useful to look at Davidson using solar return,transits and progressions,i thought "Why not?" IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1584 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2009 05:38 AM
Diandra,as always it depends on what you have found to be valid. Don`t let anyone tell you this is "grasping for straws" or this is "fool-prove method"; you have to find out for yourself. Just look at past Davisons and see if you can relate to them. Some people say Davision are the relationship charts that really are valid and expressive. I am not a good one to give you advice about relationship charts, as on some days they seem to make a lot of sense to me, but on most days I donŽt really relate.
Synastry and natal is for me what really works. But others will say the composite or Davison is. Maybe both work and it is just a matter of perspective and what you have been working with mainly. I stay open in this subject. But if you find Davison to be valid, you can of course do everything with them you can do with natals.
Regarding to the asteroids, my (present) opinion is, that we should not start with the asteroid, as this could give a distorted picture. First we have to access the "skeletton", which in my opinion consists very much of the angles, their ruler, Sun, Moon, NN, maybe Venus, Mars, Saturn and Pluto (I am still in the researching phase though).
Then (or actually even before that) we have to consider what might be "hot spots" for the involved people, shown natally. Do they have a Venus-Pluto-aspect natally, they will probably react very strongly, if it reappears anywhere, be it in synastry, progressed, transits, relationship charts whatever. And after that, if we have a clear picture of the skelletton, I would look at the asteroids, to see the details of the "story". The skeletton might say that there is a connection (at least a possible one regarding astrology), but the asteroids and other planets could tell you more about the quality / energy / kind of connection there is. You know, with strong Valentine and Amor, it might be more about love or loving, with strong Lust and Eros, it might be more sexually loaded and so on.
BTW have you done a rectification with the trutine of Hermes on your chart? I would be interesting with what ASC-degree this would come up for you. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2009 06:13 AM
DD i have found it to be accurate really:times ago JANE was a dear and helped me analyse the Davidson. She was very good at it and i found out that this kind of relationship chart is really good on expressing the influences on the relationship! as im yet not very good at these kind of charts.i thought to have a look,trying from different perspectives. but yup - you are right on that:1st look at the patterns that might appear regarding only the planets and angles. i remember VIG saying that Pluto was hitting their relationship chart IC and that was probable that they were moving,so it works for other people too. hmmm i dont have a clue of what you are talking about regarding trutine of hermes hihihihih :P IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1584 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2009 08:45 AM
The trutine of hermes has the premise: The ASC of your conception date chart is the same degree as your natal Moon. The Moon of your conception date chart is the same degree as your natal ASC.
http://altairastrology.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/getting-started-with-rectification-trutine-of-hermes-and-animodar/ http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/ IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1285 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2009 02:05 PM
quote: i already know that is probable that in the next year or the one after it,we will committ to eah other and form a family
Out of curiosity re: the case study behind the astrology--why aren't you making this commitment NOW, instead of next year or the year after? Given that it sounds like you've already decided that's what you want to do with this person. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2009 05:10 PM
due to exterior circunstances in spirit we are already married hihihi but looks like within a year or two we will already have the right conditions to make this a reality. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1285 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2009 08:22 PM
So you are engaged? Congratulations!A real-life proposal--"Will you marry me?"-- is worth a thousand asteroid conjunctions! IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2009 07:52 AM
lucia thank you,but well..he has not proposed to me directly...afterall he is a libra...hihihi he is checking the ground so to speack;but he says things like:"why dont we have a baby?" or " i would make an excellent husband..." or "on what age do you want to dress your wedding dress..." thos things you know... i usually say that im still young and not mature enough,first i wanna have my own independence and then.,,think about that!i dont want to have a baby untill we are actually living in the same place,as we are now long-distance. that is why i am seeing that only within a year or two we will make that big step. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1285 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2009 05:35 PM
Well, sounds like it is a fun and romantic stage in the relationship!IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2009 06:26 PM
so it seems... it is on that particular stage when the two start thinking really ahead hihihihi his most deares dream is to form is own family.he is rushing cause he thinks im gettin old to have babies ( im 26) :P i already told him if he wants to switch and have a baby for me IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1285 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2009 07:21 PM
Hah, you're a youngster! MORE than enough time to have a family in the future.Those Libra men, when they find the right person, just LOVE to pair up forever and ever. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2009 07:29 PM
lucia yes!!!it is exactly like that!seems that he is afraid that iŽll run away with another charming prince hihihihih he is like a scared princess,awaiting for the prince to come and take her to the castle,and live forever happily after!not without passing throug some incredible challenges firts of course hihihi IP: Logged |