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Topic: Advantage with venus, pluto DW
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popcorn
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posted October 04, 2009 12:28 AM
 
I've only read about venus pluto in DW in synastry as an aspect which caused problem like obsession, control, pain and so on. Many people had also problems to get of that relationship. I have not reading somewhere about people with an venus,pluto DW synastryaspect in relationship which come out succesful. There must be some kind of advantage to be in an realtionship with that strong karmic tie.Are there out nobody who have experience of happily relationship with pluto,venus DW?
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MsCandeh
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posted October 04, 2009 01:03 AM
When you say double whammy.. do you mean the aspects have to be the same? Or can you have say Venus opposing Pluto and Venus quincunx Pluto .. I am currently going through this with someone now lol and the aspects are exact.... so no happy endings on this end unfortunately (at the moment) You're right, extremely hard to get out of. I think if both partners are willing to succumb to the relationship then there can be a happy ending ... IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted October 04, 2009 01:34 AM
Yes, exact. DW venus, pluto in aspect to each other both way. I try to find out why people just find it so bad and not positive. I can't belevie it's so bad. It must be more deeply and positive in some way.
I'm so intrested to see if someone have that aspect to each other and beeing very happy togheter. I'm looking at my friends chart and cant find no one who have that karmic strong connection.IP: Logged |
Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted October 04, 2009 04:49 AM
I experienced Venus-Pluto DW in the past 4 months, and im very greateful for this relationship.He's Sun-Venus conjunction exactly conjunct my Pluto (in scorpio) and my Venus exactly quincunkx his Pluto. For us its manifestated in a way, that we're pretty much sexually and physically obsessed with each other, but some days ago he admitted that he didnt feel enough love to continue... (it was a LDR from the start, so we didnt spend too much time together) But we were sleeping in each others arms on our second night, and honestly, it felt like the most natural thing on Earth to do so... And there were really strong emotions involved, especially when i had to go home after visiting him...i will never forget how hard we were crying at the airport. At the moment we are taking a kind of break, and i dont know yet how hard it will be. But im almost sure that our story is not ended yet (we have lots of saturn aspects to personal planets in synastry) and i plan to move to his city in some months time, so we will see. All in all, i enjoyed every moment with him, and he had a very profound and positive influence on me on every level...
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DD
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posted October 04, 2009 05:14 AM
Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward had a DW of Venus Pluto (trine at 1 degree, opposition at 3 degrees) and they seemed to have managed okay.But of course they had numerous other stabilizing aspects, too.
So I would look at the whole synastry, not just these two aspects. And also I would check if the people have natally or in progressions / directions or transits a Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto aspect.
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Lucia23
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posted October 04, 2009 05:12 PM
It also depends on how you define "successful." I don't think of relationships as successful or un-...each is unique.I have a friendship with a Venus-Pluto DW (tight square and wide conjunction), and I feel like all the Venus-Pluto business would make it next to impossible for us to have a happy, healthy, ongoing daily connection where we tried to merge our lives together. There's lots of obsessive, controlling energy where I get all fragile/tender (Venus in the exact square) and he gets all intense/overbearing and comes on too strong (Pluto in the tight square). However, we also don't have strong other synastry. In synastry between two people who have very strong binding aspects (Newman and Woodward), I bet it might just add to the sexual attraction in an otherwise solid relationship. Same could for a couple that was very much in love. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25
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posted October 04, 2009 05:19 PM
depends on the aspects too...we have a sextile and semi sextile.i havent found in our relationship anything obssessive or manipulation,so i guess these are soft aspects that might add some powerful intimacy,but without the negative part? DD I think that the hardest is the conjunction maybe? IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted October 04, 2009 05:30 PM
Diandra, I think the SQUARE and opposition are less fun than the conjunction...the conjunction (in my experience of it in a different relationship, and judging from friend's experiences) increases the chance of a lot of really hot sexual attraction if it is a mutual romantic relationship, as far as I can tell. It also of course depends on the Venus-Pluto situation in each natal chart.IP: Logged |
DD
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posted October 04, 2009 06:14 PM
Diandra,generally I agree with Lucia, that the square and opposition might be the most challenging. Especially the square.
BUT it also depends on the natals involved. The other planets aspecting this Venus-Pluto-aspect.
If the people have Venus-Pluto aspects in their natal charts and so on.
I have Venus - Pluto square natally. My best friend has Venus-Pluto-conjunction (pluto Mars-Pltuo-conjunction plus Mercury-Pluto-conjunction plus Moon-Pluto-opposition) natally. My Pluto conjuncts her Venus, (Mercury, Mars) and squares her ASC.
No, we haven`t killed each other so far. I experience her to be very demanding at times, but more in a philosophical context. She has HIGH expectations at moral, behaviour, social standards and and can seem a bit intolerant at times.
WE both have that urge to dig deep, love psycchological analysis of especially relationships including ours and we both have been having anxiety attacks and are prone to developing fears if we feel we haven`t been working hard enough, have not immersed ourselves as we feel we should have.
In our case the fact that we both have these weak spots makes it easier to understand ourselves. I think if only one of us had this Venus-Pluto-aspect, it could have become insufferable over time. But we are pretty similiar in this regard and are very open about that.
And through our discussions and "therapeutic talks" both of us have learned to deal way better with these complexes (even though they never completely disappear). And both of us have found the depth and truthfulness (even though it sometimes hurts) and loyalty we seek and need in a friendship. So I think in this case it actually was a good thing that we both share this aspect. It is something that is very close to our personalities. Of course sexual attraction never played a role here. Maybe it is more complicated between man and woman. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25
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posted October 04, 2009 06:37 PM
oh i see!as i never quite experienced this type of aspect,i really thought the cj would be the most intense...
it is good to see that the DW have some good things about it though 
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DD
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posted October 04, 2009 06:41 PM
Well, the most intense isn`t necessarily the most challenging one. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25
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posted October 04, 2009 06:44 PM
 in this matter,so it seems!! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted October 04, 2009 07:07 PM
1-love
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popcorn
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posted October 05, 2009 06:29 AM
Thank you for the answer.Lucia: You and your friend DW venus, pluto conj and square. I think it must be different to beeing friends. Maybe we can have an ide of what it can involve. I had a romance once a time with a man. We had tight venus, pluto conj and square (His pluto in square to my venus). I was shakey in my feelings . I feel me unsure and insecure. I don't trust him in any way. It was hot sexual attraction. I feel I will be hurt to be with him. We also had many other squares. Maybe it been better feelings without the other squares in our synastrys. It was a short romance. DD. I think as you between man and woman it's more complicated. Perheps intense people get more advantage and be happier togheter with that aspect. Maybe the positive and negative togheter makes DW working out good. Maybe the positive DW working out better. I don't know. Diandra: Maybe only positive /soft DW are a more happy aspect and more easy to handle. Laura: Super glue. I often see people go off the relationship with that aspect. Many people here on lindaland also talking about venus pluto in DW. Hard and painful to brake but all the same they brake. I can't find so many people who stay togheter in many many year with that aspect. IP: Logged |
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