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JChristine
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posted October 04, 2009 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JChristine     Edit/Delete Message
I have this intensely strong affinity to two cities (Athens & Rio de Janiero) despite never visiting them in this lifetime. I decided to take a peek at my chart to see if there was any connection to either of these two places and the results we're pretty interesting.

Athens is located in my 4th house, conjunct my IC exactly trine my Sun in the 12th

Rio is exactly conjunct my Chiron in the 6th and exactly trine my Jupiter in the 2nd house

I'm curious to know if Rio held any traumatic events for me since its right on my Chiron, or if I can access healing by going there.

Would Athens be home to me now, or would I share any of its values?

I also checked aspects to these two places in the charts of my immediate family, closest friends & my partner and we all have very tight aspects with them, usually conjoining a planet or conjoining each other. My partner has Athens in the 4th just like me with Rio in the 5th conjunct Venus.

Any thoughts? Do you share any aspects to the place you adore the most?

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oneruledbymars
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posted October 04, 2009 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Have your checked your Draconic chart with those Asteroids?
That would be more telling with past lives, or should be at least.

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JChristine
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posted October 04, 2009 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JChristine     Edit/Delete Message
The Draconic chart is the same as the natal, the house placements & aspects remain the same only the sign changes. So I have it in the Draconic chart as well.

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EighthMoon
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posted October 04, 2009 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I saw a book many years ago that had a chart for each city by its birthdate, I guess the date and time that it became official. All I remember was that CA was a Virgo and Los Angeles a Leo...go figure.

But it's worth trying to find if you'd like to compare your chart or look at the Draconics of the city. No idea what the name of it was.

8th

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katatonic
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posted October 04, 2009 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
try the astrocartography section in astro.com...you may find some more interesting correlations there with those cities...

i have a strong connection to the british isles, also oregon (where i loved living for 6 years in THIS life) - the arthurian asteroids are all over my chart in significant ways...and the venus and jupiter lines on the astrocartograph run through...western england and ireland, and the pacific northwest of the us...

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jane
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posted October 04, 2009 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Now I'm in the mood to go backpacking.

I'd rather not name the city (because I'm crazy like that ). But I've mentioned here before about a city in Spain that felt intensely familiar to both my SO and me.

In our natals, I have that city's asteroid conjunct my 8th house ruler; he has it opposite his 8th house ruler.

Both of our relocation charts for that place have our luminaries in water houses.

And we later learned that I have a non-astrological connection with that city, a connection neither of us knew about when we first visited.

About Rio...even if it held traumatic events, the set-up now sounds like a place of healing. Athens, with its connection with your IC and 12th house Sun, sounds like a place from the past that you hold within you. The 12th is making me think the bond you feel is more a connection with the collective -perhaps ancient Athenian culture? - than a specific life's details.

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Glaucus
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posted October 04, 2009 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
South Rio Node might be something to check out too

Nodes are just orbital interfaces

therefore, all objects have nodes.

not just the Moon


you can calculate heliocentric nodes and geocentric nodes of objects

heliocentric nodes move very slow up to 1 degree per century,and so they have to do with collective matters

geocentric nodes move relatively quickly ,
Mercury,Venus,Mars,and asteroid nodes move quickly
the nodes of Jupiter and objects beyond move slowly,and so they are like generational or even collective.

geocentric asteroid nodes - personal karma
heliocentric asteroid nodes - collective karma


you can calculate them here:
http://www.true-node.com/pos/

you have to add them first http://www.true-node.com/add/


for example

I loved Perth, Western Australia. I went there when I was in the navy on WESTPAC deployment,and I loved it. I felt so connected to the city. I really wanted to live there. That was back in November 1993.


In my chart:

Perth in 11'32 Scorpio in 3rd
sextile/trine Asc/Desc in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
square True Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo in 6th and 12th
square Mean Lunar Nodes in 10'00 Aquarius/Leo in 6th and 12th
Gemini/Sagittarius
quincunx Chiron in 10'32 Aries R in 8th
quincunx Eris in 12'15 Aries R in 8th
quincunx/semisextile MC/IC in 11'14

Geocentric North Perth Node in 0'45 Virgo in 1st
square Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 4th


Geocentric South Perth Node in 11'43 Capricorn in 5th
sextile Perth in 11'32 Scorpio in 3rd


Heliocentric Perth Nodes in 9'06 Leo/Aquarius in 12th and 6th
oppose Mean Lunar Nodes in 10'00 Aquarius/Leo in 6th and 12th
trine/sextile 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 4th

Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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oneruledbymars
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posted October 05, 2009 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
JChristine.
Sorry I was thinking in Synastry for some reason, lol.
Im so blonde....

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jane
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posted October 06, 2009 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! I checked out that link Glaucus provided. I looked up that Spanish city I mentioned. (For ease in reading, I'll just refer to the city asteroid as "Spain".)

My SO's Spain SN is exactly opp my Spain NN.

There's more!

I looked at midpoint configs with that asteroid.

In our natals:
I have Chiron = Pluto/Spain
He has Pluto = Saturn/Spain

In synastry:
My Karma = his Vertex/Spain
His Karma = my Vertex/Spain

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iQ
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posted October 07, 2009 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent discoveries!

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