posted October 08, 2009 10:05 PM            

Apparently my fellow Leo Popcorn has this conjunct Sun, if I read correctly.

I also have Makemake and Mercury quintile my MC. I'm a writer, so to me that makes sense.

posted October 08, 2009 10:05 PM            

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Makemake is a transneptunian dwarf planet and classical kuiper belt object aka cubewano. 1992 QB1 was the 2nd transneptunian discovered,and it was the first classical kuiper belt object/cubewano to be discovered.

It's the 3rd largest dwarf planet after Eris (the largest) and Pluto (the 2nd largest) with its diamater 3/4 the size of Pluto

It has an orbit of 308 years,and so its orbit is longer than Pluto's 248 years.

Its aphelion is 53 astronomical units,and its perihelion is 38.5 astronomical units,and so it is more distant than Pluto whose aphelion is 49.3 astronomical units and perihelion is 29.6 astronomical units.

It's named after the Rapanui creation/fertility god that was worshiped on Easter Island.

It was discovered on March 31, 2005. It was announced to the public on July 29, 2005.
In July 2008, it was named. On June 11, 2008, the astronomers came up with a subclass dwarf planet called Plutoid. This was classification had to do with all transneptunian dwarf planets. Therefore, Eris,Pluto,Makemake,and Haumea are plutoids.

It has no satellites like Eris,Pluto,and Haumea do.

Makemake was only 2 degrees off the ecliptic when Pluto was discovered in 1930.

It's current latitude is 28'22 degrees North,and so very far away from the ecliptic that it's not in any of the zodiac constellations.

The astronomy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_%28dwarf_planet%29

the mythology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_%28mythology%29

keywords from Philip Sedgwick:

Orbital Period 309.00 yr., 2nd brightest KBO (Pluto #1), 1,250 km diameter? From Rapa Nui. Pronounced maki-maki.

Positive: Articulate and ultra-communicative. Self-assuredness, especially by verbal means. Clever, quick-witted and interested in invoking insight and inspiration with speech. Quick to report findings, regardless of impact. Courageous, possessing the willfulness to confront the peril required for discovery or spiritual evolution. Conscious of family security and safety. Protection of the brood.

Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.

Mundane: Data collection to support a doctrine or cause. Books, especially those of multi-cultural interest. Translation especially with a cross-cultural theme. Cultural synthesis. Integration of tasks. Computer iterations and/or algorithms. Dissemination of information whether true or false. Split second decisions. Lightning fast assessment. Fertility and fertility procedures. Birds. Fans. Eggs. Creeds. Documents of self declaration - affirmation statements, bios or autobiographies, a feather in one’s cap, selecting a safe location for nesting.

Ceremonial: Incantations. Oral remedies for healing. Meditations to unify the minds of several. Isolation for ceremonial purposes. Shamanic retreat. Cave ceremonies. Ceremonies involving hair cutting. Personal acceptance of one’s cause and karma. Ceremonies involving the use of feathers or eggs (feather fans, Eagle feather cleansing, the egg diagnostics of curanderos and curanderas - common in Ecuador, one of Rapa Nui’s neighbors). http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

as you see,
Makemake is a transneptunian that orbits beyond Pluto, has a longer orbit
Therefore, it's more metaphysically oriented than Pluto.
It could be intense,transformational in its effects than Pluto.
The evolutionary intensified lessons/experience from Makemake can be more profound

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posted October 08, 2009 10:09 PM            

I love that because experimentation, and experimenting with communication, are two of my favorite things in the whole world.

posted October 08, 2009 10:22 PM            

I like to see others starting transneptunians threads.

Thank you.

yeah..that Mercury conjunct Makemake yours is an awesome aspect. Some astrologers say that Makemake is connected to genius too. Philip Sedgwick emphasizes the creativity of it,and so he mentions Thomas Edison had Mercury conjunct Makemake within 1 degree.
He had it with 42 minutes of arc.

In my Ecliptic Longitude chart:
using whole sign houses

Makemake is in 16'20 Leo R in 12th
conjunct Ceres in 13'57 Leo in 12th
oppose/conjunct Antivertex in 14'58 Aquarius/Leo in 6th and 12th
square Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd
sextile Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd
semisquare Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 2nd - '28 applying
quintile Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 10th - '47 applying

Sabian symbol for 17 Leo
A Volunteer Church Choir Singing Religious Hymns
'the feeling of togetherness which unites men and woman in their dedication to a collective ideal'

in Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude coordinates that astronomers use instead of ecliptic longitude that astrologers use:

My Makemake is in 28'02 Leo
oppose Mars in 29'01 Aquarius
square Neptune in 0'02 Sagittarius
(T-Square)

You can get your Right Ascension positions as well as overall positions here:

check RA for Right Ascension
http://www.true-node.com/pos/

here is another link on Makemake
http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/makemake_great_sea_spirit_of_easter_islan d.html

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 09, 2009 01:30 AM            

Sabian for natal MakeMake:

26-27 Leo
The Luminescence Of Dawn In The Eastern Sky

posted October 09, 2009 02:09 AM            

I like that we are adding Sabians to the mix but:
Totally Concentrated Upon Inner Spiritual Attainment, A Man Is Sitting In A State Of Complete Neglect Of Bodily Appearance And Cleanliness

posted October 09, 2009 02:57 AM            

your Makemake is even more closely opposing my Moon than my own.

Makemake 19°30 Leo
Cupido 19°54 Leo

Moon: 17°06 Aquarius

Chiron: 20°02 Aries

Sabian of 20 Leo
Zuni Indians Perform A Ritual To The Sun

I love that Sabian.

BTW I have been thinking on starting a thread about relationships and transits involving Transneptunians, but haven`t had the time yet (your thread last year inspired me).

But what orbs can we allow for Transneptunians like Eris, Ixion, Orcus, Chaos, Makemake, Haumea etc.

posted October 09, 2009 03:06 AM            

your Makemake is even more closely opposing my Moon than my own."

wow...cool

"BTW I have been thinking on starting a thread about relationships and transits involving Transneptunians, but haven`t had the time yet (your thread last year inspired me)."

That would be great. I forgot all about that thread.

"But what orbs can we allow for Transneptunians like Eris, Ixion, Orcus, Chaos, Makemake, Haumea etc."

no more than 1 degree orb except for Eris. I think maybe 30 or 40 minutes of arc because of its 560 yr orbit.

As plutinos,Orcus,Ixion are only a year apart from Pluto,and using the same orb for Pluto makes sense to me.

"I think SEdna is different, as itis REALLY far away."

5 minutes of arc.

I'd look at only the major aspects
but I'd use slighly smaller orbs with sextile unless it involves the angles,lunar nodes,vertex/antivertex axis

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 09, 2009 04:14 AM            

how would an opposition of Moon and Makemake in natal or synastry manifest?
I am starting to become intrigued with these Transneptunian, but have not really a good grasp on their meaning.

So you are using an orb of only 1 degree for Pluto in synastry?

Hmm, you are even more strict than I am.

EDIT:

For the Transneptunian I have these keywords in mind:

Orcus: transformation, oathes
Makemake: communication skills (?)
Haumea: procreation, fertility
Chaos: ???
Ixion: Lust, stubbornness (as not wanting to learn and use second chances)
Quaoar: Creation, maybe creative skills (?)
Eris: diversity (?), arguments (?)
Sedna: betrayal, victimisation, possible abuse

posted October 09, 2009 05:58 AM            

My Makemake 14'38 Leo
My South Node 14'35 Leo

posted October 09, 2009 05:58 AM            

that is interesting. Your placements are aspecting some of my planets / angles.

Your Makemake trines my ASC on 7°01 Sagittarius

your Moon is conjunct my Draco Moon on 6°57 Gemini and also conjuncts my DESC on 7°01 Gemini and opposes my Mars on 5°10 Sag

posted October 09, 2009 10:53 AM            

Ummm...yeah. I would say so!

wow...pretty cool

with it being a transneptunian dwarf planet, there could be some evolutionary intensifed lessons in regards to your aim of life as well as foundations for the year.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 13, 2009 10:38 PM            

Sabian - AFTER THE HEAVY STORM, A RAINBOW.

KEYNOTE: Linking above and below, the Covenant with one's divine nature, promise of immortality.