posted October 11, 2009 06:30 AM            

I have not a problem at all with him. He is the best son you can get.

posted October 11, 2009 06:37 AM            

But having said that my brother is born in 1983, and even though he is not crazy, he certainly is out of the norm. He probably fits the term "Indigo Children" a bit, who are said to have been born during that time, if I remember it right.

He has Sun and ASC in Pisces, Mercury in Aquarius, Venus and Mars in Aries and a Moon-Jupiter-Uranus-stellium in Sagittarius.

He is very idealistic, courageous and "socially mature"; he also is very astute in his perception of society and politics and very uncompromising.

posted October 11, 2009 08:10 AM            

I fit with the Indigo/Crystal stuff too,and I was born in 1971. I was outside the norm that I was in special education for 3 years including 1 year with the mentally retarded. It was actually preschool,I was identified as being unusual. People thought I was weird,odd when I was in my teens and in the navy. As a male, I didn't fit with male stereotypes. Gay rumors about me because of that. I had few friends. I was really into mythology by 5th grade. I enjoyed reading mythology,arthurian legengds. I kept to myself a lot, a shy,reserved introvert loner. When I was the navy, I tended to keep to myself. I didn't date nor had sexual intercourse until I was 22 years old. That was after I joined the navy when I was 19 years old.

from what my mom told me, my father was just like me. He was born in 1941. He was highly superstitious,and he believed in Voodoo,magick,spirits. Those were things that his grandmother believed in. She was the one that raised him. He was from Louisiana (born in New Orleans,raised in Lake Charles),and those were common black culture beliefs in that area. My mom always tells me that I am so much like him even though I never knew him. I grew up in a dysfunctional household.

I think my mom's side of family has a lot of craziness,etc. It's like a ADHD family.

my exgf was born in 1983 and her sister was born in 1984. They were raised by a mother that's into New Age things any way. My exgf was into her mom's Linda Goodman Astrology books at 13 years old, but she wasn't so serious into Astrology that she studied it in depth. all 3 of them are strong in outerplanet/transneptunian energies. my exgf's sister was in special classes for her Dyslexia.

there was a lot of craziness back in the 1960's when the Hippies came out. hahahaaha

There are a lot of strange,unconventional people in every generation. Many of them just keep their stuff to themselves too.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 11, 2009 10:05 AM            

The weird thing is, I was born in 1983 but the only 83 born friends I had were born on 31 Dec- so it could count as 84..

I think I know another guy too but I don't know what he is up to lately. The people I went to school with were almost all born in 1984- at least those I knew-, my boyfriends were born in 82, 86 etc

I have gone through some really stressful situations for the past 10 years, but especially for the past 5 years or so..

However ! I've got good news !

I kind of feel much better now when compared to the past 10 years and it feels like some huge cloud of stress has just left my sky !

I hope other people born in 83 feel better as well <3

posted October 11, 2009 10:32 AM            

My son and his friends have pluto entered in scorpio and I can't se nothing special like that. His pluto 2,07 in scorpio.

When I'm looking backwards when he going at school you have right in some way. When the class 6 was finnished the teacher must splinter it because there was so much chaos in there. The teacher said she never experienced something like that before. It was an old teacher.

When class 7 started...All in the class divide up in group and they get put in new class. Everyone get a new chanse.

I don't know if it's because they born when pluto enter scorpio or something else. I cant in the end se there are something wrong or crazines like 1940 carrer 1950 flowerpower...1960 hippie...1970...

But who know what's end up from 1980 and forward

posted October 11, 2009 02:11 PM              

my daughter is an early 83 baby, and that P/S conjunction squares her moon and venus in a T...plus she has a jupiter/uranus conj which trines sun and moon and therefore ties into the t-square...

she has had plenty of relationships but this conjunction is in her third and she DOES meet it in the everyday comings and goings and communications, in a big way...power struggles with management not necessarily her "fault" but often to do with her very BIG energy and self-direction.

and her close relationships are mostly fraught with challenges of the plutonian/saturnian kind too...in fact she is just now coming through the worst of this i think.

her classmates at school were "difficult" for teachers...VERY STRONG-WILLED.

posted October 11, 2009 03:37 PM            

I was born in 83, and I have Pluto at 27 Libra and Saturn at 0 Scorpio. High energy, yes, power struggles sure. Unique? Totally.

posted October 11, 2009 04:21 PM              

i think it may also be more emphasized in those who have the mutual reception, like enchantress and my daughter, sat in scorp and pluto in libra...

interestingly my grandson's mars and venus are ALSO in mutual reception conjunct his mother's conjunction!

posted October 11, 2009 08:20 PM            

this aspect is talked about as one that defines a generation (in terms of its transit):

-conj in Libra in the early 1980s when AIDS was starting to creep into the mainstream, becomes finally acknowledged by the CDC when they have for a time refused to test the blood in the banks thus infecting many hemophyliacs/patients needing blood transfusions., etc. redefining relationships/sexuality (as pluto moves on into the early degrees of scorpio), and adding restrictions
-you can contrast the conjunction with the also intense opposition, say, from Saturn in Pisces to Pluto in Virgo and what this meant for the mid 1960s and that rebellion (but keep in mind this had extra force as Uranus was conj Pluto at the time)
-Saturn in Gemini opp Pluto in Sagittarius and what 9/11 meant, and the resulting wars

hard Saturn/Pluto aspects define generations, among other players, and of course the people who are born at the time of that transit, they have that natal energy. there's intensity and upheaval in what they're born into, it's reflected in the chart, and if it's angular or making hard aspects to personal planets then yes it will be stronger.

that's why people are paying a lot of attention to the upcoming pluto saturn square, especially with the forthcoming uranus in aries, which will be the final hard aspect before we move into another huge conjunction of saturn/pluto in capricorn (the conjunction in Libra was the last) do you assume they'll be strange too?

posted October 11, 2009 09:21 PM            

exactly

even more so with the transneptunians because they orbit beyond Neptune, and so they are more generational, especially Sedna which has the slowest orbit of any object.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 12, 2009 05:31 PM            

Also, I was thinking. I wonder if there is anyone here on this forum who doesn`t think of themselves as "different". Isn`t the fact that we are immersed in astrology already something that sets us apart from most or at least several other people?

But apart from that, yes Saturn-Pluto definitely is a big one.

Strange, I just realize now that my brother has been born with Saturn-Pluto-conjunction and I have been born with Jupiter-Neptune-square, like two ends of a scale.

posted October 12, 2009 05:51 PM              

i was born in 1983,august.i have pluto on 27 libra and saturn at 0 scorpio.both in end of 1st house...does this make me crazy?

i dont know...but im with DD-each one of us is special and unique.

strange?

posted October 12, 2009 11:30 PM              

We are unique, original and free spirits combined with responsibility. We are in no way weird or unusual. I happen to think that the emo generatiön that are antisocial and the guys that are so feminine from the 89-90 generation are a bit different but i wouldnt be dissing them calling them weird and strange. Thats where and why my generation with (uranus cnj jupiter) accepts that and enjoys unique and different people and can accept society changing and evolving..

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•Venus• Leo

posted August 10, 2017 06:56 PM            

from what my mom told me, my father was just like me. He was born in 1941. He was highly superstitious,and he believed in Voodoo,magick,spirits. Those were things that his grandmother believed in. She was the one that raised him. He was from Louisiana (born in New Orleans,raised in Lake Charles),and those were common black culture beliefs in that area. My mom always tells me that I am so much like him even though I never knew him. I grew up in a dysfunctional household.

I think my mom's side of family has a lot of craziness,etc. It's like a ADHD family.

my exgf was born in 1983 and her sister was born in 1984. They were raised by a mother that's into New Age things any way. My exgf was into her mom's Linda Goodman Astrology books at 13 years old, but she wasn't so serious into Astrology that she studied it in depth. all 3 of them are strong in outerplanet/transneptunian energies. my exgf's sister was in special classes for her Dyslexia.

there was a lot of craziness back in the 1960's when the Hippies came out. hahahaaha

There are a lot of strange,unconventional people in every generation. Many of them just keep their stuff to themselves too.

Raymond"

1971 is within the time period of the indigos... Quaoar in Scorpio. It was in Scorpio from roughly 1970-1993, which is a big part of the traditional timeframe of the indigos. Quaoar was in Sagittarius from 1994 until around this year, fitting the crystal children timeframe. Not everybody born during those years are indigos or crystals, but there is a different energy between those Quaoar generations and Quaoar in Libra, which the hippies of Pluto in Leo were, as a lot of them stopped the Hippie stuff when they received higher status (Leo).

posted August 15, 2017 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
There's craziness in every generation, and it can last a lifetime. But then we live in crazy societies. Of course many crazy people can recognize craziness in other people even if they don't recognize it in themselves, be it among their peers or people of another generation. Likewise, they can mistake something resembling sanity for lunacy as well.

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