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winter
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posted October 12, 2009 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
As per the heading –
I decided to take a different look at these two charts and try and decipher which one is the biggest commitment-phobe.

The trust and loyalty is there, there are no doubts on that. But to take it to the next level ie: living together, it's like a battle of the wills in the style of “groundhog day”. When one reaches out to the other, the other runs and then vice versa. Been going on for a long time, can't seem to stay together, can't stay apart.

I find the mirrored planetary configurations intriguing though, looking at the individual charts both Suns are well aspected and part of a grand trine. Both have Moon and Venus conjunct AND involved in a t-square with Saturn and Neptune. Mars and Uranus in hard aspect. Rulers of houses 1 and 7 squared.

Would Aqua moon run faster than the Venus Uranus conjunction or is it a tie? Is it Moon & Venus in a toughy with Saturn and Neptune that keeps the running shoes nearby? Or is it the rulers of 1 and 7 squared that don't want to be fenced in? Those belligerent Mars and Uranus hard aspects ensures paybacks are nasty!

Would love to hear different views from different eyes.


In the draconics just briefly there is
her DR Sun conjunct his natal Venus
her DR Pluto conjunct his DR Venus (this aspect is also conjunct her natal Asc)
both the above aspects are exact.

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Belage
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posted October 12, 2009 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
I don't use Draconics.

I'd say based on the 7th house that he might have a harder time committing, with its ruler moon in Aqua square Saturn...

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DD
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posted October 13, 2009 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I think, DRaconics are interesting, but usually the tropical charts very clearly describe the HERE and NOW.

Also I say with the ruler of her 8th house squaring Uranus, it is not easy to commit for her either. Even though Mars is in Taurus, so there is also a wish to commit.

Actually I see this theme in both charts, there is simultaneous a wish and the fear to commit.

Maybe it is even one of the attracting factors, as the other one can understand this inner conflict, and they can "act out" both roles at different times.

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scrappydog
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posted October 13, 2009 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
I don't use draconics either, but natally I would say the air signs and saggattarius and uranus in hard aspect to venus and/or mars, but especially venus.

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LuvinU
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posted October 13, 2009 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvinU     Edit/Delete Message
Well - you'd have to take several things into consideration like their upbringing - parents relationship, etc.

For hers - I would say depending on her parents relationship, I like vertex in this chart and the feeling of "winning" that I get from other areas of her chart. Feeling powerless or as though they "lost" is not for them. I don't know whether to say that they have to have the upper hand but they'd like to think they do. Maybe to them - someone has to be the chump and someone has to be the alpha - she wants to be the alpha.

For him - I like the moon for this one - they may be exposed to or know a lot of people but no one special in the commitment department but it also depends on timing with this person - maybe they are the type of person who goes from relationship to relationship that mirror their circumstances but since they have this feeling that their circumstances can change any day - they hang on loosely to the relationships because they too will change with the circumstances.

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winter
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posted October 15, 2009 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
I’m not that familiar with draconics myself but thought if I put those couple of aspects in it may be indicative of the compulsion to be together in spite of the fact the Nike’s are always at the ready.

I checked out progressions looking for answers to the current upheaval and at a glance I see the following exact aspects:

Hers: P Sun conjunct natal Uranus
His: P Venus opposite natal Uranus

What a freaking roller-coaster.
Thanks to everyone who responded, I shall ponder this some more.

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