posted October 14, 2009 04:20 AM            

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Caput Algol *
The Gorgon's Head
† Behenian Star Primitive female sexuality; strangulation, beheading, danger to throat and neck, murder, violence, mass catastrophe, the "Evil One", the Demon Star; passionate; intense; hysterical. More on Caput Algol. 26° Taurus 10 Very Unfortunate Saturn/ Jupiter

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http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html

posted October 14, 2009 05:13 AM            

Amor 26,27 in sag
Wertex 26,38 in sag

Valentine 26,58 in libra
Siva 27,24 inlibra
Ixion 27,20 in libra

Jupiter 23,17 in taurus
Varuna 23,48 in taurus
Algol 26,10 in taurus

Maybe the orb are to big from jupiter/varuna conj to algol and the other 26 degree yod aspect. I don't think it's count in the Yod.

I just say one thing. I am happy I am as old as I am. I don't think that's aspect have an effect on my life in a big way.

It is not a special with me.

posted October 14, 2009 11:14 AM            

EDIT: I have been fascinated with this star for quite some time, so for those who are interested, here's a history of Algol (lots of catastrophes are connected to this most malefic of stars) and towards the end some famous (and infamous) people who were unfortunate enough to have this star prominently placed in their charts.

posted October 14, 2009 01:34 PM            

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These examples demonstrate that having Algol represented on a chart does not necessarily mean that you will inflict, or be the victim of, horror and mayhem...but that you will be aware of the depths of suffering that can occur, whether through human depravity or "Acts of God"; and you will not be able to ignore suffering and horror, or brush it aside; your life path will require that you come to terms with that level of experience...The Algol placement on a chart insists upon a confrontation and assimilation of these harsh aspects of human experience in this lifetime. The polarities of bigotry or tolerance, violence or kindness, cruelty or compassion, war or peace are issues that are unavoidable and must be dealt with under Medusa.

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posted October 14, 2009 02:16 PM              

but understanding of those facets of life, yes, i've done that one.

however i almost see this as a fortunate influence, when you look at it that way...it has made the sad and bad moments easier to understand and integrate than some people find.

posted October 14, 2009 02:43 PM            

Bernadette Brady believes in using star parans instead of projecting stars onto the ecliptic. She said that was the old way of using fixed stars. The star ecliptic projections happened after Ptolemy recorded the ecliptic longitude of the stars and assigned planetary characteristics to the stars.

Algol is located in the constellation of Perseus,and so it's not in a zodiac constellation. Therefore,it's not on the ecliptic.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 14, 2009 02:48 PM            

Here's what www.constellationofwords.com has to say about planets in proximity to Algol:

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If culminating: Murder, sudden death, beheading, prone to murder and mischief. If at the same time in conjunction with Sun, Moon or Jupiter, gives victory over others in war.

With the Hyleg and angular, decapitation or a murderer who meets with a violent death.

With Fortuna or its dispositor, poverty.

With Sun: Violent death or extreme sickness. If also in no aspect to a benefic, or there is no benefic in the 8th house, and the dispositor of the Sun in a day nativity or if the Moon in the night one is in square or opposition to Mars, the native will be beheaded; if the luminary culminate he will be maimed, mangled, wounded or torn to pieces alive; and if Mars is at the same time in Gemini or Pisces his hands or feet will be cut off.

With Moon: Violent death or extreme sickness.

With Mars: or if Mars be elevated above the luminaries when Algol is angular, the native will be a murderer who will come to an untimely end. The same is caused by Algol angular or with the hyleg.

With Mars or Saturn: and the Moon at the same time with Sadalmelik (2 Pisces), hanging or decapitation by royal command; if the Moon is with Denebola (20 Virgo), death by judicial sentence; and, if the Moon is with Alfard (26 Leo) death by water or poison.

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They seem to be getting their interpretations from the book, "Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology", Vivian E. Robson, 1923.

posted October 14, 2009 02:55 PM            

Mars-Algol
Encountering crisis situations through actions motivated by one's intense passion. An obsession which may lead to a destructive situation but can also yield great creativity. A constructive, but also destructive, situation emerges.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 14, 2009 02:58 PM            

therefore,I wouldn't think Algol conjunct Chiron would be anything to be concerned about.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 14, 2009 02:59 PM            

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Bernadette Brady believes in using star parans instead of projecting stars onto the ecliptic. She said that was the old way of using fixed stars. The star ecliptic projections happened after Ptolemy recorded the ecliptic longitude of the stars and assigned planetary characteristics to the stars.

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glaucus, can you explain a bit here, i get lost

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using star parans instead of projecting stars onto the ecliptic

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posted October 14, 2009 03:03 PM            

I certainly doubt my dear Glaucus is going to be executed by royal decree anytime soon!

posted October 14, 2009 03:13 PM            

when two objects are on an angle at the same time. It doesn't have to be the same angle.

"I certainly doubt my dear Glaucus is going to be executed by royal decree anytime soon!"

Yeah...My Moon is conjunct Sadalmelik too! They are also in paran.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 14, 2009 03:25 PM            

I agree with you.

That's why Bernadette Brady approaches Fixed Star Astrology differently. She takes the mythology into account. She doesn't bother with the planetary associations with the fixed stars. Like I said before, she uses the oldest method of using stars and not the projecting stars onto the ecliptic which occurred because Ptolemy recorded the stars' ecliptic longitude projection positions.

He published the listing of the stars in not his astrological book,Tetrabiblos, but his astronomical book,The Amagest. He developed the listing as an astronomer, for astronomical needs.

for centuries, astrologers have been changing,confusing,and distorting stuff.

they did it with the house systems too. The equal house system was associated with Ptolemy when he actually used the whole sign house system. There were translation errors in his book.

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 14, 2009 03:37 PM            

This is where I got mine: http://www.zyntara.com/starlight_natal.html

posted October 14, 2009 03:41 PM            

page 11 from Brady's Book of Fixed Stars

"The projected ecliptic degrees of Ptolemy were based on the poles of the ecliptic.
His list of 1022 stars and their PED were then precessed through the ages, with each generation of astrologers adding the current rate of precession to find the current ecliptical position of any star in their time. Ptolemy's star catalog was used in this manner for well over a thousand years until the time of Ulugh Beg (1394-1449), a Mongolian-Turkish ruler and astronomer who developed the Fahkri sextant, and that of Regiomantanus (1436-1476). These two astronomes re-plotted all of Ptolemy's star catalog, which laid the foundation of Albrecht Durer (1471-1528) to produce star maps based on the poles of the equator (rather than in the manner of Ptolemy who based his measurements on the poles of the ecliptic. using this new method of projection, each of the 1022 stars of Ptolemy's list was given a new ecliptical position. The astrologers at the time of Ulugh Beg and Regiomontanus seemed to accept this change in the position of the fixed stars without question. Since that day, astrologers and astronomers alike have used the poles of the equator rather than of the ecliptic for such projections. So first the astrological world accepted Ptolemy's astronomical work, which in turn led to the decline in the use of the older system of parans. And if that was a valid step to take, then we have to question why the astrological community accepted the work done by Ulugh Beg, for it changed the ecliptical position of every fixed star by Ptolemy:

to put it into short terms

the stars projections that we're using now aren't even based on Ptolemy's original listing. They are based on a modified listing.

so there is question which projected ecliptic method to use

based on poles of the equator (Ptolemy)

or

based on poles of the ecliptic (Ulug Beg and Regiomontanus)

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"