posted October 16, 2009 04:42 AM         

Personaly I dont see how it plays out. I think that I could be confusing my 8th house sun placement with my venus in scorpio.I have so many Scorpio-related positions, I can't see clearly the influence of my house positions from planetary configurations.

I have venus, saturn and Pluto in scorpio.
I have sun, jupiter, uranus and Neptune in 8th house. Vertex is also in 8th and so is my South node(if that is relevant).

I know that Neptune aspects a lot of my personal/outer planets and asteroids i.e Sun,mars, Jupiter,uranus,Pluto and asteroids Chiron, Ceres, Juno, Eros etc.

I see this so readily in my character as I don't like to see people suffer and often literaly run from conditions that I feel will turn violent/ confrontational. I think I have a gift for healing that is still suppressed but I don't know. I may be letting my imagination run away with me....

Maybe my sun in 8th house shows up where I seem to have authority and a lot of "know-how"(Sagittarius sun) on esoteric/ paranormal issues(8th house). My interest in the above subjects is unlimited.

posted October 16, 2009 05:29 AM         

i see traits of both houses in my sun expressed.

but i feel like the 1st house expressions were more noticeable in my young years lol.

i can still be a bold sun, arien.. but i have an aries moon so its hard to split it down and see if its the moon being responsible most the time.

posted October 16, 2009 07:56 AM         

Though on LL this is a popular house as relationships are a key topic, it has taken me a while to appreciate having 4 planets live here.

Deepen the definition of this house to relating to other people, then yes, it starts to be something with which I can identify. Public perception, I think Geocosmic Valentine said. It's more something I can indentify with than 'the house of marriage'.

I am a Sun Gemini, the Sun is in a Grand Trine with Uranus in the 11th and Mars in Aqua in the 3rd. Unsurprisingly I talk a lot, write a lot, communicate a lot.

I dug up this from dkfoundation....your own will be on there if you follow the links to the houses. It makes for interesting reading.

http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse7.htm

quote:

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Sun in House 7

The Sun in the 7th House indicates that consciousness is being balanced and expanded by interpersonal relating. The sign and position of the Moon will indicate whether the area of Relative consciousness is a new field of experience or whether there has been previous experience of relating but from a position of dominance or subservience. The 7th House experience leads a person eventually to accept nothing less than equality.

As the relationships he forms during his lifetime are the very means of his self-discovery it is common for a person with the Sun in H7 to start out with a very weak sense of identity. In his early years he commonly expe­riences difficulty in giving one lifestyle preference over another: intel­lectually he understands that, unless they involve the exploitation of others, they are equally valid. Often the way out of the impasse is to bring a sense of direction into his life by means of an ambitious partner whom he supports and, to an extent, gets an identity from. It will not be long however, before the influence of this area of the horoscope causes him to react against the inequality of the relationship and the expectations his partner has of him. Then he will strike out with a clearer sense of direction and purpose.

This process may have to happen a number of times before a 7th House person is able to define what he perceives himself to be. What he learns of himself through his experiences adds to his understanding of others: if he becomes aware of his own distinctiveness he has to acknowledge that of others; and if he acknowledges how different is the reality of each person then this calls into question the desirability of trying to fit with another in a binding, long-term commitment.

Surprisingly, perhaps, the Sun in the House of Venus may produce tolerant and reasonable people but it does not produce willing candidates for marriage. It is notable that 7th House people of both sexes tend to marry late - if at all. Women with the Sun in the H7, in particular, possibly as a reaction to experiences with dominant partners early in their lives, tend to feel that they stand to lose too much of themselves in a conventional marriage and become very self-sufficient.

People with the Sun in the 7th House tend to be happy in work in which there is plenty of scope for personal interaction, and in personnel, public relations and counseling work in particular. As teachers they tend to owe their effec­tiveness to their willingness to relate to their pupils as equals.

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posted October 16, 2009 09:27 AM         

I have Sun in 3rd house in Whole Sign House system. Communications is the central theme in my life.

I have switched to Whole Sign House system now,and so I consider myself as having Sun in 3rd house. Scorpio is my whole 3rd house, and so my Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in that house.

also if considering the transneptunians (mainly the big ones), I have Sun-Ixion-Quaoar conjunction in 3rd house. That would indicate evolutionary intensified lessons are a central theme in communications. Sun conjunct South Eris Node in Scorpio in 3rd can also indicate a central theme of diversity/equality/controversy/discord from the past in communications.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 16, 2009 10:32 AM         

I wonder though, with everyone talking about their house positions being so detectible, perhaps the house position is clearer to us than the sun position?

If we change to the draconic charts, my planetary positions become unrecognizable whilst if I use indian astrology, my sun sign becomes Scorpio/sag cusp....hmmm
The only thing that remain constant are my house positions.

Perhaps the house positions are the gateway to your character as everyone's birth time is different, the planetary positions(and their respective house placements) during your birth time become even more telling?

I have moon in 3rd which heavily influences my need to jab on constantly whilst my 9th house mercury has me using BIG terms to explain something that other people call simple.

posted October 16, 2009 11:26 AM         

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 16, 2009 12:21 PM         

I don't know about my channeling spirits.

I was told by a few astrologers that I should stay away from that because I am too sensitive to the spiritual realm with Moon in Pisces square Neptune with 1'23 orb. My Moon is in 7th and Neptune in 4th. the strong transneptunian energy adds more to it.

I think that I am meant to be more grounded with North Lunar Node in 6th because I might have a history of pastlives being ungrounded with South Lunar Node in 12th. But the South Neptune Node conjunct the North Lunar Node in 6th and North Neptune Node conjunct South Lunar Node in 12th complicates matters. Chiron sextile North Lunar Node,trine South Lunar Node seems to indicate that I am here to be a healer.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 16, 2009 05:24 PM         

wow, just wow. That link was freakishly accurate.

Everything about it, from childhood, to marriage to work. weird.

posted October 16, 2009 05:34 PM         

The 7th house link works more for me than I find easy to accept. Just like it says.

posted October 16, 2009 05:44 PM         

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It's in the 7th house, along with 3 other planets.

Though on LL this is a popular house as relationships are a key topic, it has taken me a while to appreciate having 4 planets live here.

Deepen the definition of this house to relating to other people, then yes, it starts to be something with which I can identify. Public perception, I think Geocosmic Valentine said. It's more something I can indentify with than 'the house of marriage'.

I am a Sun Gemini, the Sun is in a Grand Trine with Uranus in the 11th and Mars in Aqua in the 3rd. Unsurprisingly I talk a lot, write a lot, communicate a lot.

I dug up this from dkfoundation....your own will be on there if you follow the links to the houses. It makes for interesting reading.

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In numerology the # 7 is ruled by Neptune. In my experience 7 people & places have an illusionary/slippery quality to them.

Being 7 designated I know this house is part ruled by Neptune.

posted October 16, 2009 05:56 PM         

Sextile Moon/Pluto, Opposite Saturn, Square M.C, Quintile Mars.

posted October 16, 2009 06:47 PM         

also my Sun conjuncts 2 transneptunians,Quaoar and Ixion. Sun conjunct Ixion is only 5 minutes of arc. In Right Ascension,my Sun opposes Sedna under 1 degree.
I also have Sun contraparallel 2 transneptunians,Pluto and Orcus. Sun contraparallel Orcus is only 1 minute of arc.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 17, 2009 03:33 AM         

also once you get past Neptune, you get into the transneptunian region which signifies "the unknown"

I have Ixion,Quaoar,Pluto,Orcus,and Sedna making aspects to my Sun. There is also Sun quincunx Varuna with 5 minutes of arc in Right Ascension too.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 17, 2009 03:28 PM         

I have the Sun in Aries in the 4th house.
Other than Neptune I lack planets in the water signs but having the Sun in the 4th house
(and Uranus/8th and Jupiter/12th)
makes up for that lack of water.

posted October 19, 2009 05:38 AM         

Perhaps the energy(sign where the house cusp is found) is what you easily use to tackle the subject(house number)on a specific level of conciousness(planet).

Example: I always think that the BIG 3 are very telling about the individuals nature.

Usualy the other personal/outer asteroids make aspects either by degree or by sign(which I think is still heavily under-estimated and even ignored at times) with atleast one of these; and this merely extends to what is already there within the person.

I have Asc in Taurus, Sun in Sag and moon in Cancer.

Sun is 8th and Moon is in 3rd.

The moon is who we are on an every day, habitual and unconscious level. The moon is usualy the first recognisable thing about me and so I'll use the moon because I really recognise the moon position extensively.

With my moon in 3rd;

I use the energy(cancer/cardinal water) to express, on a daily basis and habitualy(moon) , words and ideas in one-on-one conversations(3rd house).

I have noticed that people in my life who have moon in 3rd house are usualy very talkative.When I spend time with them, these people seem to have knowledge that is unending. They usualy express interest in many unrelated subjects. A gemini-like approach to conversing is recognisable. The only diffrence may be the way(sign) that they are expressing it.

A leo moon in 3rd house that I know doesn't like to be interrupted when talking and can be "matter of fact" about her opinion.

Another pisces moon in 3rd house I know can be incoherent with trying to find connections in many things that (on the surface) seem unrelated. After a while ofcourse, they become successful in convincing me to see the relation.