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blue moon
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posted October 16, 2009 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Thought I would share this as I was reading

http://astroqueer.tripod.com/charts/tomrobinson.html

and found this thought-provoking:-

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Prominent Venus & Pluto: Early Love & Sexuality Issues

At age 16, Venus (love) had progressed 16 degrees by Solar Arc to the 16th degree of Taurus, thus squaring Robinson's natal Pluto (sexuality) in his 1st House (facing death). At a time when homosexual acts between males in Britain remained punishable by prison sentences, the former choirboy had fallen "hopelessly (and unrequitedly) in love with another boy at school" and was "[w]racked with shame and selfhatred," thus attempting suicide. Two characters, both typically Plutonic & Leonine, then shaped the direction of his life henceforth. Firstly a head teacher transferred him to a "pioneering therapeutic community for disturbed adolescents." Secondly, he entered the presence of Alexis Korner, the legendary blues rocker and "supreme communicator," an acoustic guitar player who sang about raw human experiences (love, poverty, and racism). With progressed Venus in Taurus in his 10th House (of vocation) squaring his natal Pluto in Leo, Robinson was mesmerised by the charasmatic Korner, and the "whole direction of his own future life and career became suddenly clear."


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hanakin
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posted October 16, 2009 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think sexuality can be seen in a chart.
it's like saying you're an aquarian you're blonde...

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blue moon
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posted October 16, 2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
His sexuality is only background information in an explanation of how the Solar Arc acted out, at least that was how I read it.

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hanakin
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posted October 16, 2009 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
Ok i get your point now....
i don't know.... ill have to think about it.

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Diana
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posted October 16, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
>>>>it's like saying you're an aquarian you're blonde...>>>>>

haha, but this is usually true!

I think aspects can bring out latent feelings and produce action if the tendency is already there. That goes for everything, and not just sex.

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scrappydog
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posted October 16, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
I think sexuality can most definately be seen in the natal.

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Belage
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posted October 16, 2009 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
It would be cool to analize Tom Robinson's chart. He was a gay man who made the famous song I am glad to be gay, only to fall in love with a woman in the 80s or 90s. That was an interesting case and I would love to see the chart he has with that woman, Sue Breardley (sp?).

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Belage
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posted October 16, 2009 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, I went back and read the entire article instead of just glancing at it, and I see that it did a very good job of analyzing Robinson's chart. Very good job. This is such a fascinating subject. People tend to think that people are either gay or straight, but there are people who are both, especially when as in Robinson's case, they have such a mutable chart.

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katatonic
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posted October 16, 2009 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i'm sure lots of aquarians are blonde. like abraham lincoln, yoko ono, janice dickinson, peter gabriel, jane seymour,john travolta, malcolm mclaren and alice cooper - and several of my aqua friends, they are just very STRANGE blondes who happen to be VERY dark.

or john rottin' lydon, who is blonde at the moment...

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Belage
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posted October 16, 2009 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
LOL at Katatonic.

I have never heard the blonde thing with Aqua either, and none of the Aqua I know are blondes...

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Diana
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posted October 16, 2009 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
A lot of aquas are blondes. I am one of them. Every aqua I know is blonde.

I can't think of too many celebrities off the top of my head, but: J. Aniston, Lauren Conrad, Bridgette Fonda, Christie Brinkley, Cybill Shephard, Farrah Fawcett, Heather Graham, Paris Hilton...those are just the women. Obviously, not ALL will be blonde, but most are, in my experience.

Linda Goodman even says they are usually blonde, I think. It's actually something I've observed in real life. No need to get pissy about it either....

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