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Mannequin
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posted October 17, 2009 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
i don't know how to deal with it, hold my head u high, and move on. my venus is in scorpio conjunct pluto. i need revenge, i want to torture this person. i keep going back to them and giving them chances. i don't know how to cope.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted October 17, 2009 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
I understand how you feel. I am a vengeful person in matters of love myself (gotta love that Venus in Scorpio!).

I will tell you this though...everytime I went after revenge, I ended up hurting myself more than the other person. Sounds so cliche, but it's true. It's just not worth it.

The best thing to do is brood as long as you need to brood, and then move on. Happiness and success is always the best revenge anyway.

EDIT: I also wanted to add, that a person can't hurt you unless you give them the power to hurt you. You're going to have to find the strength inside yourself to let go. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. Your indifference is your most powerful tool. If you stop caring, they lose the power to hurt you anymore. So work on that--stop caring, stop letting them in your life. Easier said than done but I know you can do it.

(((Mannequin)))

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blue moon
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posted October 17, 2009 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
'living well is the best revenge'

I live on the opposite side of the zodiac with Venus in Taurus. It's a slow burner. When chances run out, I would be more cutting that person out of my life than plotting revenge. Mercury is Conjunct Venus on my chart, also in Taurus, so around this time my mind will be made up alongside. The hooves will dig in, all over.

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Mannequin
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posted October 17, 2009 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
they have alot of sexual power over me (mars in taurus exactly opposing my venus, plus pluto/venus connections on either side). this is my main problem. i found out they cheated on me, but i went back to them 'cause the sex is powerful... healing... amazing. they've done it again, betrayed me compleletely, no regard of my feelings, and i don't want them to have that kind of power over me.

the power is so strong, i get aroused by thinking of them having sex with that person, it's that vile and sick. it's overbearing. i wish they never existed in my life.

i need to be indifferent, but there was sio much love from my side. my venus loved more than imaginable. i gave all of myself to them, my mind, body, soul. literally. they had it in their pocket. to use and abuse whenever they like.

it's my fault, but i've realised my mistakes. the hard part is letting this power control stop. the betrayal is too much to handle. i hope he suffers eternally, for what he has done to me. whenever i see him in my mind, i see him burning in a fire of my grief, being tortured, being burnt, just like i was. i want him scarred, like how he has scarred me. i want him on his knees, crying his life out, begging, begging for forgiveness, realising what he has lost. he lost the best thing that has ever happened to him, and i want him to grieve for that, to yearn me. i deserve atleast that much.

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Glaucus
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posted October 17, 2009 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
shrugs

this tends to be common with many females in physical and/or emotional abusive relationships as well as relationships that just involve the man cheating.

the best thing to do is just to let go and move on with your life without the guy.

That also involves forgiving him too.


what got you involved with this the guy in the first place? What did you see in this guy that made you want to be wit him? That is something to go over. Then you can avoid being with other guys that are like him that will likely end up hurting you.


Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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Mannequin
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posted October 17, 2009 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
i can never forgive him.

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Mannequin
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posted October 17, 2009 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
i was with him because he had lied to me about his true self. put on an act that he would be loyal, honest, commited. he lied. i should've seen the signs, but love blinds it all. but don't think i wasn't aware, or suspicious, and questioned him vigorously about my feelings of paranoia i would get. i could sense whenever i felt something was not right. i would have dreams of catching him with another woman. of course he would say "you just need to trust me... you can trust me... i love you", and promise me of happy futures to come, so i kept letting it go.

we go on well too, we had different interests, but had respect for each other's. we laughed, we had sex that was out of this world, we had passion, arguments. it just felt right with him.

he took care of me, i looked after him. it was just perfect. we called each other that. "for me, you are perfect".

to just think, that for him, it was all an act, is heartwrenching. i want him to pain severely. i can never forgive him.

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Glaucus
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posted October 17, 2009 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

That seems like the common thing that many males do to females.


when you first got involved with him,

did you have any hard Neptune transits to your natal?

and/or

also any Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc personal planets,angles in hard aspect to your Neptune?


especially involving Sun,Mars(the planets associated with the animus), Venus (love,relationships), Ascendant/Descendant (personal interaction with others axis)?


Raymond

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Peri
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posted October 20, 2009 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Mannequin, what transits are you going through?

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letram
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posted October 20, 2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
i don't really understand..

why are you still obsessing over this ex of yours who's been an absolute c*nt towards you,

when you've met a lovely leo you seemed to have a perfect connection with, what happened? you are hopeless.

also, you need to take some responsibility - its clearly established the person is a user/abuser/womanizer/cheater. You have to take responsibility for the fact that you've given this person chance after chance, and then when they don't prove them self's, you start having another break down over it.

how about You cut him off completely, no contact, nothing. stop giving him chances, another chance to him, is another victory, and your loss. and if i have this right, you've given him not one chance, not Two chances, but a THIRD chance? what does it take for you to realize it doesn't work?

you have an unhealthy obsession with the person, you are not helping yourself by condoning his contact with you, and his actions.

just Move On.

also, the biggest shame, is that by not being able to move on, you are Losing even more, while your ex is 'winning'. he's moving on and ____ing other women, what are you doing?

p.s.

you've never listened to 'Ex-Factor' by Lauryn Hill before, have you?

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mir
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posted October 20, 2009 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
I learned myself to behave in such a way that I can't blame myself for the break up - specifically in relationships which I really didn't want to end!.
So, what's left is the others feeling of being a disaster, being a complete jerk, being miserable!
But...I would never gave him this feeling directly by saying, writing or shouting how miserable he was or by emphasizing his guilt, because if you do he will feel he has the BEST reasons for getting rid of you, he will be glad with the break-up. Don't allow this light in his eyes!!
Instead of it - to balance your emotions - talk about yourself, write a letter with YOU being soo dissapointed, soo full of pain etc.
But, stay calm, feel your pain and let him know how YOU feel.
Don't mess it up with your anger, you have to win, and you will if you want to! Because....you didn't do anything wrong!
He knows he IS wrong and he will lose his guilt if you're going to attack him, mentally/pshysically.

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Belage
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posted October 20, 2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Mannequin, is Jupiter or Neptune currently squaring your Venus/Pluto conjunction?

Anyway, you mentioned the power the sex had over you. Of course, having a Pluto/Venus conjunction in Scorpio gives sex a power no other thing can match. The thing about Scorpio is that there is the lower scorpio, the one who is controlled by sex and baser emotions, and there is the higher scorpio, the one who has mastered his sexual impluses.

With this particular conjunction, sex is always going to be a charged matter for you, so I would recommend you CAREFULLY choose your sexual partners. You have the potential for amazing healing through sex and relationships, but because you have a natal Mars opposition or square to this aspect, there is a part of you that actually loves the fighting, conflict and tension you experience in relationships, so be alert to that, and see if you can avoid picking people with whom you experience that type of conflict. Check out what aspects they make to your mars/venus/pluto square and proceed cautiously.

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Femme
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posted October 21, 2009 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Femme     Edit/Delete Message
Mir, GREAT ADVICE! Bravo!

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Femme
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posted October 21, 2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Femme     Edit/Delete Message
Mir, GREAT ADVICE! Bravo!

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Mannequin
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posted October 21, 2009 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
Mir, thank you. your comment really helped me.

and it's not just about the sexual power, it's about how in love i was with him. the moments we shared, the strong bond that we had. he was like my best friend and my lover.

it just pains and pains in my chest to think about what he has done. i honestly thought we would be together forever. it is just an absolute blow to my heart and my soul.

he is avoiding me, 'cause he knows he is wrong. but part of me thinks, what if he's not even phased by it? what if he's already moving on, and i meant nothing to him?

i don't know what to do. i'm just so blinded with hate and anger, i can't fathom how he could be like this to me.

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Mannequin
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posted October 21, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
i don't know what transits i'm going through.

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iQ
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posted October 22, 2009 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
This is typical Psychic Energy Cord bonding from your Aura to his and his Aura to you.

The only way to free yourself is to forgive him and raise your vibration so that those bonds break. Using Purple Plates, visualizations, taking up aerobic hobbies all will help. And do not hate yourself for loving him.

The more you thnk of him negatively or positively, the more his power over you will increase. Erase him from your mindspace and then auric space.

NLP Visualization to erase a negative man from your mind:
2-3 very deep breaths, relax those tendons and joints. Give yourself a mild massage on the temples, forearms, calves and neck.
2-3 more deep breaths, hold the breath for 7-10 seconds atleast and breath out fully.
Now imagine you are on a golden throne, pure gold. Gold at 1000$ an ounce, that kind of gold. You look around and your see a smiling Eddy Murphy is your slave. You break into laughter yourself and he flirts with you.
You hear his voice saying "You look great baby, I just loooooove that smile. You are a goddes you know, I aint kiddin your highness, you are a goddess."
You feel great, I mean you can afford Eddy Murphy as your slave. Your manager comes in next. It is Vince McMahon.
He lifts your throne and takes you to a wrestling ring. Everyone cheers your name. Murphy is coaxing them to cheer.
You feel just fabulous.
Mcmahon announces that this scumbag, the man who once betrayed you is to face punishment.
He is going to face for one minute each
John Cena, Triple HHH and then the Undertaker.
You can imagine the punishment he is getting now, thewhole crowd cheering for you as he gets his a*s whooped. The Undertaker does 3 pile drivers and throws him at your feet.
He begs for mercy.

Eddy shouts "Kick the s** of a b****h your highness". Instead, you feel a great sense of power over him. He feels so irrelevant and useless. You feel relievd that you ahve nothing to do with him. So you forgive him. As if he were just a little ant who stole speck of sugar. You forgive him and the whole crowd gasps. Then they cheer you for your compassion.
Imagine seeing Vince throwing him into a cannon and Eddy lights it up, he is flung high above the stadium and disappears into a Violet Sky. See him turn into a little speck of dust and disappear in the violet.

You feel absolutely great about yourself for forgiving him. You hear more cheers from Eddy and the crowd. You feel lighter, happier, more compassionate and yet more powerful.
Remember this feeling.
2-3 more slow and deep breaths as you breathe in this feeling.
Come out of the visualization.

Try this out 2-3 times, I have just given sample characters. Mix and match it but the main objective is to feel your personal power.


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Belage
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posted October 22, 2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
^^^ IQ Hunk, you have me ROLLING ON THE FLOOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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iQ
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posted October 23, 2009 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
That is a positive side effect of the visualization. The stuff works like magic.

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