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katatonic
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posted October 22, 2009 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
IQ - i don't want to start an argument on the subject of drunvalo. what i am reading is pretty specific, though.
as to anna hayes/ashayana dean, i know someone who is involved in the keylontic stuff and i have read some of the lit from hayes which i consider to be gobbledygook for the easily mesmerized. she has been involved in some seriously crooked shenanigans and i don't trust her for a minute. drunvalo has warned people that she has gone off on a tangent, i know, i saw it on his site.

perhaps another thread for this because i would love to know what you think is not specific about his stuff! i like his lack of ego and his disclaimers that he is not THE authority on this stuff. he is relating what he has learned.

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posted October 23, 2009 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Cool, I will first check out my archives on all the links I have collected over the years on these topics. Plus I have many experiences with the Merkaba Techniques.

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posted October 23, 2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i have to admit i have only just begun to touch on the actual merkaba stuff. i found his "serpent of light" first, and watched some videos he has made, then started on the flower of life.

his stuff resonates with me and although i hold onto my objectivity i find HIM personally very reassuring...not only does he have a positive spin on all this conspiracy stuff (david icke, tsarion, jones, et al) but he continually repeats that HE believes this because his life has led him to trust his sources, but even he is waiting to see if it pans out.

also that he allows for the strong possibility that there are other pathways to the same point, other teachers and also people who will work out their own methods...

anna hayes dean, on the other hand, is a huge influence on the person whose business i am managing, and i would not trust her for a minute. every sensor i have tells me she is a con artist.

it seems you IQ have already studied this in a good deal more detail than i so i am all ears (eyes!)..

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posted October 24, 2009 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
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posted October 24, 2009 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! I didn't know that any one here on lindaland knew about ash dean! My siter is one of her deciples and they travel all around the world in groups. She is very rich from this and still charges exhorbant prices to get even richer. I think she is very talented, but still a con artist. Some things she teaches is down right weird and hard to follow, other things are more impressive. She attracts a cult like following. My sister knows a lot about her personal business ans even she admits that ash is not what she seems! She has 5 children from different men whom she has mostly abandoned.

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posted October 24, 2009 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
am i imagining things or are posts disappearing before my eyes? i could swear orbm posted something here earlier.

scrappydog, yes, i believe there are elements of truth in the keyontics but as i said i don't trust the group or dean at ALL.

still i would love to hear more info about the actual teachings, and the mer ka ba work too...

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posted October 25, 2009 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Now Kat, that was wierd, because I read this earlier, and I was going to post something, but I got distracted. lol

But what interest me the most was the Merkaba work too...In my own personal visualization I see my own Energy as a Merkaba... Great thread Kat!

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posted October 26, 2009 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_Life

A beautiful page, will enlighten the mind when we ponder on the images.

Drunvalo and Anna Hayes, could not get any natal info for either of them. I only found that Anna Hayes was born in 1964, was abducted in 1968 by malevolent ETs, "rescued" by benevolent ETs in 1971 and "taught" (programmed?) DNA Activation for 12 years. The rest is a complex history of name changes and verbose/complicated terminologies.
One thing about ETs, they dont rescue you.
If they had a practical conscience for rescuing in third dimension, they would not have allowed the Nagasaki Bomb to explode.


Drunvalo is far less complicated than the Keylontics of Deane, but truth is often found in the simplest of natural observations.

I did the Merkaba Meditation by first grounding myself withn a brown visualization ion sacrum, then placing 2 rotating tetrahdrons each on all 7 chakras, making the color of the objects the same as the chakra colour.

This is a strong Kundalini Awakener. I dont do this anymore as it feels too strong.

Drunvalo claims the group workshop energy is powerful enough to attract government helicopters.

I feel our energy should not be "leachable", it should flow only between our Soul , Higher Self and God for us to be whole.

The Keylontics Group are focusing a lot on Indigo Children and direct progression to higher dimensions. Deane is an abductee, she could have been programmed by the ET Abductors, hence the need for caution while studying her material.

Dave Wilcock is also big on Ascension in 2012. Dave supports Obama as well.

One thing about Drunvalo and Dave Wilcock, they must have studied not less than a million pages of metaphysics, but have some serious humility.

Drunvalo's latest effort is quite thought provoking, he speaks of the Earth's Kundalini being activated.

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posted October 26, 2009 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes the humility and what appears to be genuineness of drunvalo is what attracted me to read more into his stuff. he himself admits there are many ways to get "there" and that his sources might not be perfect but

says that so far they have not misled him. most of what he says resonates VERY strongly with me.

anna hayes, as i said the woman i work for is involved in the keylontic thing to a certain extent and i keep it at arms length because it does NOT seem genuine and i had a look in hayes's book at one time and found it to be mostly gobbledygook.

drunvalo's thing about the earth's kundalini makes sense in the light of scientists agreeing with him that the earth's magnetic pole has been shifting for some time, though of course we the people are too stupid for them to come right out and say a serious shift is about to happen.

and given that dm also talks about how going into fear will be your demise, maybe that is a good thing!

i suspect that whatever else he is obama - being a 61 leo with aqua rising - is aware of higher consciousness and that is what keeps him calm and inching through the mire. maybe he WILL make it through, i'm too skeptical to bet on it at this point...or maybe he is an unconscious puppet or worse, but i somehow don't think so. whether he is strong or aware enough to beat the game, well that is another question! but my psychic friend sees him as "holding" the energy to prevent major disaster before "the time" comes...for what that's worth!

where did you learn your kunda meditation from? your self, or someone else...?

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posted October 28, 2009 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
I picked up plnety of Kundalini Info from ths website: http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/grounding.htm

I used to do this exercise a lot: http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/grounding.htm
But it got too intense. Later I utlized just chakra meditation from Stewart and Janet Swerdlow using visualization. This technique never raises full Kundalini, just energizes the chakras every day optimally.
Their most useful materal is in "Hyperspace Healer's Handbook" and "Decoding your Life".

I play around with many visualizations.
Recently I spin Violet Pyramids on my crown and pineal just to see if I get more secrets from the Universe.

Best material on the Tantrik Philosophy is the book "Aghora 2" by Robert Svoboda.

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posted October 28, 2009 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
A very powerful visualization, a competely different approach.
http://www.tamsoft.co.in/grace.html

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katatonic
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posted October 28, 2009 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
thanks, iq! i will check out those links for sure.

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posted October 29, 2009 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Some Numerology and spiralling
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KEYLONTIC = 31
FLOWER = 31. Keylontic Science inspired from the Flower of Life program?

MELCHIZEDEK = 44
DRUNVALO = 34
Total = 78, total cards in a full tarot deck.

KAALI = 8 = ISIS
KUNDALINI = 28 = POWER = PLUTO
HORUS = 23 = ZODIAC = MERCURY = URANUS
Does the Energy of Horus rule the intellectual pursuit of Astrology ?

OSIRIS = 17
ISIS = 8
ISIS + OSIRIS = 25 = THOTH, the resurrector of Osiris's virility or kundalini energy with the help of Isis.

NEPHTHYS = 36 =
"GREAT PYRAMID" = "JESUS CHRIST" among many imprtant words/phrases.

OSIRIS + NEPHTHYS = 53 = 8 = ISIS!!!
Osiris accidentally slept with Nephthys and the result is ANUBIS = 18.
Incidentally, JESUS = 18 CHRIST = 18.

18 x 2 = 36 = ISIS + KUNDALINI = NEPHTHYS

Did the affair of Osiris with Nephthys of help Thoth's raising of Kundalini for Osiris consummation with Isis to produce Horus ?
It is said Nephthys joined Isis for the search and rescue of 14 parts of Osiris.

And ISIS + NEPHTHYS = 44 = MELCHIZEDEK

So does the order of the Melchizedeks preserve this secret of Kundalini Energy?


And what about Mary? MARY = 8 = ISIS!!!
MARY + JESUSCHRIST = 44 = ISIS + NEPHTHYS = MELCHIZEDEK. Is this their second secret?

And what about Father-Son-Logos?
Could it be:
Father = Osiris or Ptah
Son = Horus or Anubis
Logos = Thoth ?
But numerologically, LOGOS = 23 = HORUS

Ptah is a very powerful Egyptian deity.
PTAH = 18 = ANUBIS!!!!

It is said SEKHMET and UBASTI are akin to KAALI. SEKHMET = 28 = KUNDALINI!!!!
UBASTI = 17 = OSIRIS.
(Further addition shows 17 = 8 = Kaali = Isis.)

Ptah and Sekhmet are the earliest part of Ancient Egyptian creation lores.
PTAH + SEKHMET = 46 = number of human chromosomes!

Last but not the least, OSIRIS + ANUBIS + HORUS = 58. Osiris has 14 parts. 14 + ISIS + NEPHTHYS is 14 + 8 + 36 = 58.

This information is found nowhere else on the web nor in any published book. Enjoy

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posted October 29, 2009 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

that is very interesting.

You use the Chaldaean alphabet, don`t you?
All these 8`s - interesting.

Which reminds me of a dream I had last weekend. I was at a hotel in London, but they gave me two keys for two different rooms.
One of the keys was 17 the other one was 24.
No idea what that means.


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posted October 29, 2009 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Yup, its always Chaldean Numerology for me.
Several mysteries can be solved with this technique.

17 could mean Angel, Osiris, Earth/Heart, Kabbalah, Crystal etc.
24 could mean PSYCHIC or even HERMES.
17 + 24 = 41, one of the luckiest numbers in existance.
ILLUMINATION = 41.

Here is more numerology that just might be the last straw on a skeptical camel's back to trigger spiritual evolution.
39 is a number shown at prominent times in many mega movies [ 33 is shown more ofcourse].
Most recently it was Spiderman 2, the train number stopped by Spidey is 39. In "Indiana Jones and the last Crusade", the tunnel where the heroes escape Nazi fighter planes is 39.
So I thought why 39?
And the words that vibed with 39 popped into my otherwise non-psychic, bikini image infested and non-crystal skull....

REVELATION = 39
PROPHECY = 39
OVERSOUL = 39

And if there still be a seed of doubt, then know this: "PINEAL GLAND" is also 39!!!!

And in the previous post we saw HORUS = MERCURY = URANUS = ZODIAC = LOGOS = 23.
Well, CHIRON is also 23.
7 + CHAKRAS is also 23.


Howzzat for a logical connection in a spiritual field?

And for those who may have missed this, the following 6 related words all add to 54, an event that defies any kind of probability calculation.

TESTOSTERONE
METAMORPHOSIS
TRANSFORMATION
CONSCIOUSNESS
ENLIGHTENMENT
PHILOSOPHER

No software exists to help us find such words. They either pop in one's head or stay secret for eons.

Like no one mentions ATLANTIS = 22....
Well, LEMURIA is also 22...
No wonder 22 is a master number.
ISIS = 8 + 14 parts of OSIRIS is also 22.
MANKIND = 22
ALCHEMY = 22
MOKSHA = 22
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posted October 29, 2009 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Jeez, these numbers give me the chills! It is really amazing!

Interestingly I will be at a concert next weekend and stay overnight in a hotel. I am curious to see what room I will be given.
Also, several intuitive-psychic people mentioned several times that this will / might be a very significant evening in my life; something that definitely is in tune with my feelings about saturday. Of all days it had to be the 31st october! Of course it had to fall onto Samhain!

I am pretty relaxed about it though and more curious than nervous to see what is going to happen, on the inside or on the outside.


Funny, you mentioned the 22. This is the number of my first name (without family name). And even funnier, the singer of that concert has been born on a 22nd. (his complete birthdate is reduced to 11, my complete birthdate is reduced to 33).

And the funny incidences continue, cause I am going to another concert (which is somehow related to this one) on 13th november. I didn`t choose these dates, those are one-time-events. Funny though the whole birthday of the performer of that other concert reduces to 11, too.


OH but I got distracted here.

I found it very interesting that you mentioned Crystal, cause just moments ago the thought suddenly popped into my head, that I should be taking my crystal with me on saturday. I don`t know why.

You mentioned Angel, Osiris, Hermes.

Transit Osiris (and Jupiter) are both conjunct my Moon and trine my Karma.

Transit Hermes is exact conjunct my Pallas.

Transit Angel is exact trine my Chiron.


And I know it is probably a bit stupid, but I glanced at the composite with the singer, and transiting NN is conjunct composite - Hermes, transitins Saturn is conjunct composite Pluto.

Transit Osiris is exactly trine composite Angel.

Transit Angel is exact conjunct Mercury and conjunct Isis (probably not so remarkable, as in synastry his Isis is EXACT on my Atlantis on 8 Sag, which is the current location of Transiting Kaali, and his Isis is also conjunct my Mars, ASC, Neptune and True Node and ANGEL).

And what I could not help but notice, the composite Karma is on 9 Cancer.

Ah I did it again, got carried away. Seems it is not easy to focus for me right now.

EDIT:
I had the idea to check my progressed chart.

Transit KAALI on 8°01 Sagittarius is EXACTLY opposite my progressed Kaali on 8°01 Gemini (that does seem a bit creepy, doesn`t it?).
My progressed TRUE NODE Is on 8°50 Sagittarius and VALENTINE on 9°29 Sagittarius (conjunct natal Neptune and True Node and Angel).

Progressed Angel is on 19°06 Sag conjunct Transit Angel on 20°47 Sag.
(that singer`s progressed Angel is on 19°07 Leo - hmm, maybe I should pay attention to the choice of songs. lol)


I KNOW I am exaggerating here again; I will just have an entertaining, relaxing evening. But I was too curious to NOT look at the astrology.


EDIT 2:

"REVELATION = 39
PROPHECY = 39
OVERSOUL = 39"

The numbers 3 - 6 - 9 have always been a source of major intrigue and fascination to me.
You just have to look at their "pictogramm".

And am I right to think that 3 relates to Jupiter, 6 to Venus and 9 to Mars?

Funny though, I used to think (when I was little), that the 3 is actually an 8, that is missing some parts. LOL
Or actually a more open 8; yet isn`t it interesting that the 3 and 9 are open to the left side, whereas the 6 is open to the right side?

Hmm, probably that is making NO sense at all here. Anyway, just wanted to say I find these numbers mesmerizing.

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posted November 05, 2009 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
David Icke has:
Sun conj KAALI conj INNANEN in Taurus
trine UBASTI in Virgo
opp Mars in Scorpio
and
Venus conj DNA. These hint at higher reptilian DNA percentages.... very interesting....


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posted November 05, 2009 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, as they say:

It takes one to know one.

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posted November 05, 2009 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i have always thought icke looked repitlian himself. of course he is responsible enough to point out we are probably all interrelated with them, THEY ARE US, as he put it...which is one of the reasons i can't read him anymore. in the end i always wonder, does it matter where they're from, or is it just a titillating side-fact?

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