posted October 23, 2009 07:49 AM         

The house position of the return, as well as the usual suspects of aspects. Look for aspects to planets / lights first. They are the most important imo. Asteroid to asteroid research in relation to the return is important if you have a corresponding relationship in the natal.

Karma returns are pivot points...at least they have been for me. Maybe because all three [near past etc] of 2003, 2007, and in 2011 have Uranus as a keynote speaker

posted October 23, 2009 08:14 AM         

KR P fortuna conj IC in house 4
KR moon conj IC house 3

KR Ceres/sun in house 12 conj ASC

KR ASC ruler pluto conj horus in house 2

KR Moon, chiron, neptun, BML, nessus, jupiter, eros, NN in house 3.. all of it

posted October 23, 2009 09:01 AM         

KR karma in house 11, Valentine, jupiter,pallas, mercurius all in the same house.
KR sun in house 10.

My job my last 4 year was so importent. I get better job and love to meet all the people around me in my job

I agree and so surprised it describe it exactly how I lived in my last 4 year. So intresting

My KR asc ruler pluto in my house 1. I change my hair from dark to light in that period.

There is no mainfocus on my home and friends there. I just live for my job thats right. I understand I must change that and have think much about that. I se it in my Karma return in 2009. There are my 3 house completly full.

posted October 23, 2009 11:59 AM         

Some people often use that term whenever people do or say things that they don't like or don't agree with.

There are people are like "look at me...I am enlightened...I advanced", I can tell people what their karma and lessons are."

They think that they know what their feeling,thinking,and what they are dreaming and project their beliefs and ideas onto other people even though people tell them clearly what they their feelings,thoughts,and dreams about.

a bunch of spiritual snobbery

now with that being told,

when transiting Karma was conjuncting my Karma in 3'18 Libra in 2nd (using whole sign house system) around the end of June, I got a response from somebody that answered my neuro-diversity group ad and offered me a moderator position for the new web community that he was coming up with. It was linked to Learning Link Technologies.

I guess my Karma is about relating,partnerships and security,self worth. It's quincunx my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 7th house It's trine Pallas in 2'36 Gemini R in 10th,Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R in 10th,and Saturn in 5'08 R in 10th,and so connected to creative intelligence,seeing patterns,justice,judgment but the use of structure,discipline. The Gemini placements indicate karma involving communications. My Karma is in 16 minute semsiquare to my Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd.

Raymond

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posted October 23, 2009 12:54 PM         

I think a few asteroids are useful, mainly the very important (imo) one's, like vertex, chiron, and possibly lilith. I don't really think the other one's, like amor, etc. are, unless there are other aspects from karma to planets that support it. This is JMO from what I've observed.

Glaucus,

No one can really tell someone else what their karma is, etc. I think people that are offended by karma talk are people that are afraid of it, because it is something they feel they can't control and that it's out to get them. People always seem to forget about good karma, which is a shame.

posted October 23, 2009 01:02 PM         

I wasn't referring to you.

I was referring to other people. People that can be seen as spiritual snobs and act like they are enlightened and highly evolved but their actions and words contradict that like if call people names,accuse them of being blind,or just judge them and say stuff "it's your karma".

they will talk hella smack. If somebody says something back to them, they throw the karma in their faces

spiritual snobbery is a problem in many religions,spiritual traditions. It doesn't matter if it's Christianity,Hinduism,Buddhism,Wicca,New Age,New Thought,etc.

I think spiritual snobbery is just as bad as intellectual snobbery.

in many cases, karma is used to excuse negative action of others and just deal with them and not doing nothing about it because they accept it as their karma. In some ways, it's kinda like sin.

in Christianity, it's believed that we are born from original sin due to Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit in the tree,and so we inherit their sins. Therefore,we aren't born with purity of the soul. The reincarnation concept,it's believed that we are in a cycle of lives learning lessons and some could be connected to mistakes that we made pastlives and so we have to learn. In the reincarnation concept, the soul is not thought as being perfect but it has its own baggage.

as for the karma stuff,

I don't think Dr. Martin Luther King Jr would believe that in regards to segregation. I don't think Nelson Mandela would in regards to Apartheid. I don't think Frederick Douglass would in regards to slavery in USA.

I am damned sure Malcolm X wouldn't either!

just like Dr. Velu Annamalai definitely doesn't in regards to Untouchability in India.

I think karma can be misused as a cop-out mechanism.

also dictating somebody's karma is no different from telling people if they are going to hell or not. You're judging somebody's soul and insinuating what's going to happen to them.

Raymond

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posted October 23, 2009 01:32 PM         

Anyone?

KR conj Sun/ceres conj KR asc in house 12? should I be scared?

posted November 04, 2009 06:03 AM         

Diana wrote:
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I think people that are offended by karma talk are people that are afraid of it, because it is something they feel they can't control and that it's out to get them. People always seem to forget about good karma, which is a shame.
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Very wise words, Diana.

Karma is simply the hermetic Law of the Pendulum and the biblical proverb: "As you sow, so you reap".

Speaking of Good karma:
When someone belittles you behind your back, you lose some negative karmic debts. When you praise someone genuinely behind their back, you gain good karmic vibes that can either attract a reward or annul more negative karmic debts. This is what confuses good people. They think bad things happen to nice guys, it is not so. Mountains of karmic debts of many lifelines are being cleared, we see it not.

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posted November 04, 2009 02:22 PM         

Transit karma square my sun/asc always feels in someway.

posted November 04, 2009 06:11 PM         

and what best way is there to enjoy a karma/venus cj than that???Eros certainly played a part too...hihi

your sentence made me look at our own date of 1st intimacy and karma was there too proeminently!so karma is indeed a good asteroid!

Tr Karma was cj his N.Isis/Osiris and Tr.Proserpina was cj his N.Karma

Tr karma was cj my IC and Tr Saturn and Venus were cj my N.karma