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posted October 23, 2009 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
What does this chart say about this person? Anything that stands out for ya, please. What would benefit me to know is:

How they like being wooed and to woo.
What they are like as a lover.
What family and growing up means for him.
Fears or restrictions.
Desires and ambitions.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Anything really.

Also, kindly tell me about Aries generally. I know no Aries person other than this person, so I have no point of reference.

I am in the middle of strategizing a plan of how to approach this person without freaking him out since he gets freaked out a lot. Being direct seems to be a problem with him.

Anyways, here's the chart:

Thank you, in advance!!

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posted October 23, 2009 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
well, his 9th house certainly fits him.

I know aries men. They like a woman who is their equal. They like them feminine but not too feminine. A bit of a tomboy is a good thing with these men, but you always must look pretty. Always. You have to stand up to them but not be obnoxious, or worse yet, make them look bad in front of people doing so. Talk about ego! Total male.

They like the chase. But they also can't feel like you don't care. A fine line.


Good luck, haha.

PS - His moon in cap and MC and venus in taurus will mean he'll like someone who looks good on paper, whatever his paper version is of looking good. He wants to be able to brag about you. Status. Most aries like women who are accomplished in their own right.

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posted October 23, 2009 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
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PS - His moon in cap and MC and venus in taurus will mean he'll like someone who looks good on paper, whatever his paper version is of looking good. He wants to be able to brag about you. Status. Most aries like women who are accomplished in their own right.

Perfect!

That's just great. Good Luck to me indeed!!

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posted October 23, 2009 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Was I right?

Yes, good luck. Aries are hard to handle, but you'll be fine.

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posted October 23, 2009 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure about the women he goes for since I am never privy to such knowledge. But, I read the same thing when I first analyzed his chart. I was just thinking how bad I look on paper.

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posted October 23, 2009 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, but it depends what HIS definition of good on paper is...


OR...


Quick go volunteer at a soup kitchen for Thansgiving. Wait, are you in the US? If not, volunteer for some similiar nice thing somewhere, because I have a feeling that is his "good." PS- You should be doing that anyway!

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posted October 23, 2009 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Good point.

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posted October 23, 2009 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
i edited.


He really has a lot of 9th house flavor, so he may want a free-spirited vagabond type... probably all three (vagabond, good on paper, and free spirit) in one. Good luck to HIM. lol

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posted October 23, 2009 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
You crack me up!!

He got all interested when he heard I was getting a cat. I do volunteer already so Score!!!

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posted October 24, 2009 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Sun square Moon is kind of rough. I would know.

Sun in a t-square with the Moon and Ascendant doesn't sound fun at all.

Mars and Mercury appear to be getting some discipline and transformation from Saturn and Pluto.

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posted October 24, 2009 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
He's uptight about some things and will try to hide his feelings usually. He's not as 'flashy' as he might seem with all that Aries. He's got a fairly subdued side. I should say he internalizes a lot too.
But talk and mental stimulation will turn him on.
The odder, the better. Weird references pulled out of thin air will be a turn-on.
9th house is just an emphasis on travel - he likes it. He's got to feel like he's always learning - if he's not, he gets bored. It's an emphasis on learning and teaching.
Seems like he's got a fairly sensitive body - allergies?

My feeling is that he can be attracted to someone who is pretty well-grounded and down-to-earth. Stable. Strong, yet also sweet. Career-minded too, and at times almost conservative.

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posted October 24, 2009 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks MVM! That helps.

AG~ Elaborate!

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posted October 24, 2009 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
It would take a bit of contemplation to figure out how these things might play out, and not knowing the guy it really would be speculation. I just point these things out as things to take into consideration when looking at his chart.

The Sun square Moon pits these dominating energies against one another, and causes a lot of stalls/inertia.

The t-square, even though one of the points isn't a planet, is or should be resolved by focusing on Libra in the 3rd, which might mean learning/communicating the balance that isn't present amongst the points of the t-square.

Saturn opposite Mars means that Saturn is discipling his actions.

Pluto opposite Mars/Mercury means to me that Pluto is forcing it's influence over both of these planets. Might make a person vengeful. Might make them powerful. Might work to keep both planets in a constant state of transformation.

NN in Gemini means that he needs to stop trusting his intuition, and start digging into the details a bit more. Unfortunately, he's got Neptune right on the SN, so he's REALLY more in to trusting that intuition. Might make him gullible.

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posted October 24, 2009 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
"NN in Gemini means that he needs to stop trusting his intuition, and start digging into the details a bit more."

Yeah, trusting your intuition gets you nowhere.

I'd say quite the opposite, considering his NN is in the 12th. Neptune conj his SN tells me he's got a tendency of falling into a rut of daydreaming probably.
Maybe because he doesn't always listen to his intuition.

EDIT: In Gemini - he should listen to his dreams, because it's in those that a lot of important details make themselves known.
His Neptune is Rx - it's internalized.
He may also have artistic talent which he doesn't feel completely confident expressing.

This man is not gullible. If anything, he's quite the opposite, and doesn't let go all the way.

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posted October 24, 2009 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
That's a good point about it being in the 12th.

Here's a thread regarding Gemini NN: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007992.html

It does confirm my interpretation. I just based it on the opposite of what the Sag NN interp is, which is to stop delaying making decisions based on not having enough information, and make that leap of faith.

Being in the 12th house does lend some confusion as to how to interpret it as the 12th would suggest using your intuition. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008001.html

Now I'm looking at the other attributes of the signs involved. (This is why I don't enjoy elaborating. It's too time consuming to sit and ponder over every possibility.)

Gemini NN suggests stepping away from self-righteousness. NN in the 12th suggests being non judgmental and compassionate. I think these interps meld together nicely into a good sentiment for Gemini NN in the 12th.

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posted October 24, 2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
He could still be gullible. There's no way of knowing without knowing him. If SN is what we've been (and what we're comfortable with) then his would suggest a mixture of Sag (sign) and Virgo (house). Could very well be a self-righteous know-it-all. Self-righteous know-it-alls can be gullible people.

Of course Sag and Virgo could also combine to be some sort of spiritual saint or something too with that mix of philosophy and service, but that doesn't really speak to whether or not they would be gullible.

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posted October 24, 2009 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, the 12th house can really be a tricky slope, true.
I'm out the door, will read the links later.

The one thing I've associated time and again with the 12th though is dreams.
But things in the 12th do seem like they disappear somehow. Maybe he needs to remember his dreams lol.

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posted October 24, 2009 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks AG for the elaboration and sorry for how it dragged on...

AG and MVM:

To NN in Gemini-

From what I know of him, I am inclined to say that he is probably a skeptic just because he is cynical, sarcastic, jaded and slightly annoyed by humans who he deems to be "closed-minded" sheeple who believe everything they are told even if it holds no weight. Maybe his cynicism is based on many instances where he had been gullible and got disappointed. I dunno. I would say that he definitely has a touch of self-righteousness about his beliefs or what he might know. I haven't found this to be harmful. He just really likes his choices, values and beliefs and these beliefs, values etc are quite ingrained in his personality - which makes me think that he might be rigid because a person who holds their beliefs in such high esteem - can be caught latching onto beliefs that may no longer serve the individual.

He is a daydreamer, and always complains about doing too much daydreaming and I suppose he complains because he should be living his dreams too, not just dreaming them... ??? I have never asked him to elaborate on why daydreaming is something worth mentioning because we all do it, but I suppose he must recognize it as some type of hindrance.

He is artistic. He doesn't express it fully. I can't say why. Maybe it is as MVM says, and he isn't confident about it, or he might be lacking inspiration to go at it full steam. But yes, he is artistic.

He is a know-it-all, but I enjoy the that type because I can be one myself, and another know-it-all just means that I have someone to let me know more than I knew before. I don't know if he feels the same, whether he has to be the knowledgeable one amongst the ignorant to feel empowered, or whether equality is more appealing.

I think that he might deem himself as a spiritual savior by "opening people's minds"... yes, definitely. He is not a preacher though. I've always given the impression that out beliefs and values are not the same, and he has never criticized, judged or preached to me. He let's each to his own, but has a desire to "set people free" by educating people of other perspectives, but many of us have similar desires.

I think that he thinks most people are deluded, but he won't say it out loud, whereas I would, most likely.

bubbbut... where's the bit about how to woo such a creature? Kidding. All the responses are appreciated and educational.

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posted October 24, 2009 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I interpreted his BML in 7th as a desire for partners who are strong, individualistic, almost rebellious against the system, who defy expectations and defy norms.

This is contradicted by Venus in Taurus.

What do you guys think?

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posted October 26, 2009 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Check out his Draconic chart, it'll fill in the blanks
Never mind BLM for now, it's too vague I feel to base anything on.

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posted October 26, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
Venus in the 10th house, Moon in Capricorn. hmmmm....

I'd say his ideal woman is earthy. Maybe an older/emotionally mature woman. A person he sees as an asset to him. He may fall in love with a business partner. Someone who helps him make/manage his money.

Get-Rich-Quick schemes are probably a big turn on for him. What are his ideas?, maybe you can help out. Or, may have some ideas of your own and he can help connect the missing dots.

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posted October 26, 2009 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvinU     Edit/Delete Message
I can tell you right off the bat that his pisces and virgo are intercepted. It looks like he can pick up on things pretty quickly and he may feel he has an answer for everyone else's problems. Here is the thing though - he is uncertain about his abilities. He probably hesitates quite a bit. All this information and doesn't know how or why to use it. He is unsure of himself - he may appear a bit nervous when he does act. He may have lost people in his life and harbors the pain and disappointment of it so in turn, he may be a bit possessive with his love interests, his projects, and maybe even his children - he is afraid to lose them or bracing for when he does lose them. He likes to attach some sort of unusualness to his relationships so that they will be 'his' in his own way/in a way no one else could possibly have it. He doesn't seem to share all of the insights he gets and probably feels like kicking himself when those insights could have benefit him in the long run. He looks like he could do well delegating work and projects to others. He harbors a lot, it looks like and he may talk more than does so in a way - most of what he has to offer can be best offered through others which is why I said he would probably do well delegating once he overcomes - 'it was my idea, not theirs'.

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posted October 26, 2009 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Nine~
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I'd say his ideal woman is earthy. Maybe an older/emotionally mature woman. A person he sees as an asset to him. He may fall in love with a business partner. Someone who helps him make/manage his money.

Earthy is good. I wish it could be a spiritual and emotional or even mental asset than a material one that he is after; but since it IS Venus we're talking about, Venus in a Venusian sign, in the 'wordly' 10th house... it might just be material asset that he is after.

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What are his ideas?, maybe you can help out. Or, may have some ideas of your own and he can help connect the missing dots.

We are always talking about doing something together but we never take it seriously. So, maybe I can make it more of a serious venture.

LuvinU~

Thank you for the insight. Unfortunately, I can't confirm any of it for sure, because if he does hesitate a lot, he seldom shows it.

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He harbors a lot, it looks like

I suspect that this might be very true. It is actually frightening.

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He likes to attach some sort of unusualness to his relationships so that they will be 'his' in his own way/in a way no one else could possibly have it.

I like this. Being unusual myself, it means that this one can work for than against me.

Thanks guys!!

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posted October 26, 2009 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
A working relationship would be big with Venus in the 10th.

Combined with a #3 Lifepath, maybe something along the lines of Import-Export. Travel Agency, or maybe Safari tours or some such. Anything that connects you with people and places from abroad.

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posted October 26, 2009 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto in the 3rd house-probably a very influential speaker, moon in the 6th, is very concerned with sports and health matters. Scorpio in the 4th house-probably is very private about his family and home life...

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